Canyon Bikes - Ultimate or Aeroad.

[okgo]

russy01 said:

Update - Email to the MD seems to have worked.

Issue has been resolved within a couple hours, Bike is shipping tonight, big apology received & getting a nice Jersey I wanted at 70% discount...

Fingers crossed for Thursday delivery...

I might have to go down this route pending their dealing with my garmin mount falling clean off the bike with garmin still locked in...

[russy01]

Bike arrived yesterday afternoon and I am officially in love - Its finished very nicely and looks awesome. I put in a quick 20miler last night and 26miles this morning and its very quick. DI2 is awesome, razor sharp shifts every time. It makes getting into the big ring so easy, can just easily knock it up and down from down in the drops. Also the Discs seem pretty good too, can really hammer up to a junction and have complete confidence you can pull it up.

Quick image from the kitchen last night and then one from my ride last night with my friends Ultimate Aero = which is also very nice!

[lufbramatt]

Awesome bike, saw a guy out on an identical one when I was out riding last Sunday, really stood out.

Just got to make sure you ride fast enough to justify the kit now ;-)

[russy01]

lufbramatt said:

Awesome bike, saw a guy out on an identical one when I was out riding last Sunday, really stood out.

Just got to make sure you ride fast enough to justify the kit now ;-)

I think I can just about get away with it... not getting any slower put it that way.

[E65Ross]

Just out of question....how are you getting on with the Aeroad?

I'm wondering when they'll be bringing out an entirely new model, now that the UCI rules for road bikes are changing....I expect at least another year yet.

I'm going to be going for this hopefully before Spring time.....by which time they'll definitely be shipping with the new Ultegra groupset.

Cheers

[okgo]

Feels pretty similar to my other high end bikes

[russy01]

E65Ross said:

Just out of question....how are you getting on with the Aeroad?

I'm wondering when they'll be bringing out an entirely new model, now that the UCI rules for road bikes are changing....I expect at least another year yet.

I'm going to be going for this hopefully before Spring time.....by which time they'll definitely be shipping with the new Ultegra groupset.

Cheers

I absolutely love it. Fast, pretty light, very stiff, brakes very well with the discs. Pretty comfy over long distances considering it can be set up very aggressively...

Done about 1000miles on mine so far and it’s not missed a beat.

Also gets a LOT of attention (whether this is good or bad!)

Get it bought...

[E65Ross]

russy01 said:

E65Ross said:

Just out of question....how are you getting on with the Aeroad?

I'm wondering when they'll be bringing out an entirely new model, now that the UCI rules for road bikes are changing....I expect at least another year yet.

I'm going to be going for this hopefully before Spring time.....by which time they'll definitely be shipping with the new Ultegra groupset.

Cheers

I absolutely love it. Fast, pretty light, very stiff, brakes very well with the discs. Pretty comfy over long distances considering it can be set up very aggressively...

Done about 1000miles on mine so far and it’s not missed a beat.

Also gets a LOT of attention (whether this is good or bad!)

Get it bought...

Going through house purchase at the moment and I've worked out that once I've paid my deposit, solicitor fees, furniture etc etc I SHOULD have around £8-9k left over.....but I want £5k left as a contingency fund so that leaves me £3-4k.....the bike is £4050 at the moment, but once I add power meter, all the other gubbins it's about £5300, so I'm not too far off now. House should all go through either this month or very early next month, and then I'll know a lot more as to where I am in respect to being ready to buy the bike.

But I'll definitely be buying by Spring, I'm sure, if not earlier.

[russy01]

E65Ross said:

Going through house purchase at the moment and I've worked out that once I've paid my deposit, solicitor fees, furniture etc etc I SHOULD have around £8-9k left over.....but I want £5k left as a contingency fund so that leaves me £3-4k.....the bike is £4050 at the moment, but once I add power meter, all the other gubbins it's about £5300, so I'm not too far off now. House should all go through either this month or very early next month, and then I'll know a lot more as to where I am in respect to being ready to buy the bike.

But I'll definitely be buying by Spring, I'm sure, if not earlier.

Nice one, I paid £4049 in a sale a month or two ago. Their end of season sale has it reduced to the same price....

I want a power meter, but decided on a Tacx Neo first to get me through the winter. So bought that last week (its awesome!) and will get a power meter as we head into 2018 (Mrs will kill me if I drop another bomb on a power meter considering what I have spent on biking this past couple months >£6k!)

[E65Ross]

russy01 said:

E65Ross said:

Going through house purchase at the moment and I've worked out that once I've paid my deposit, solicitor fees, furniture etc etc I SHOULD have around £8-9k left over.....but I want £5k left as a contingency fund so that leaves me £3-4k.....the bike is £4050 at the moment, but once I add power meter, all the other gubbins it's about £5300, so I'm not too far off now. House should all go through either this month or very early next month, and then I'll know a lot more as to where I am in respect to being ready to buy the bike.

But I'll definitely be buying by Spring, I'm sure, if not earlier.

Nice one, I paid £4049 in a sale a month or two ago. Their end of season sale has it reduced to the same price....

I want a power meter, but decided on a Tacx Neo first to get me through the winter. So bought that last week (its awesome!) and will get a power meter as we head into 2018 (Mrs will kill me if I drop another bomb on a power meter considering what I have spent on biking this past couple months >£6k!)

Good effort! Ever since riding with a power meter I hate riding without one now....not because I want to hit certain targets etc every single ride, but even on recovery rides I like to know the TSS etc which gets plugged onto my Training Peaks account. I want the bike 100% fully set up and ready to go before I ride it rather that get it, build it up and then have to change bits as and when.

I've spoken to Canyon and whilst they don't know for certain, they have said the original Aeroad was 2011-2014, and so this model could be 2015-2018 and so new frameset could be released September 2018.....but they can't guarantee that. So now I've the conundrum of buying one in Spring and perhaps be a bit disappointed I didn't wait if a new model does arrive (if it arrives September 2019 I wouldn't care so much!), wait until September next year and risk being disappointed a new model ISN'T actually released, or wait until September and buy the new model if it is released.

Decisions, decisions!

[neenaw]

russy01 said:

I'm not a huge fan of aero bikes usually but that looks lovely!

[russy01]

E65Ross said:

Good effort! Ever since riding with a power meter I hate riding without one now....not because I want to hit certain targets etc every single ride, but even on recovery rides I like to know the TSS etc which gets plugged onto my Training Peaks account. I want the bike 100% fully set up and ready to go before I ride it rather that get it, build it up and then have to change bits as and when.

I've spoken to Canyon and whilst they don't know for certain, they have said the original Aeroad was 2011-2014, and so this model could be 2015-2018 and so new frameset could be released September 2018.....but they can't guarantee that. So now I've the conundrum of buying one in Spring and perhaps be a bit disappointed I didn't wait if a new model does arrive (if it arrives September 2019 I wouldn't care so much!), wait until September next year and risk being disappointed a new model ISN'T actually released, or wait until September and buy the new model if it is released.

Decisions, decisions!

Ive never paid any attention to power as I just ride for fun with a couple friends... but since getting a little fitter this year I am starting to consider ramping up my efforts this winter with the view of entering a few semi competitive events next year.

Since I have had the Neo I have instantly become interested in power and am currently looking at the different Power meter options!

I see what you mean about the frame and a new model, but it depends how much you are going to use the bike. Even getting mine this August I considered waiting until next year, but I figured that I love the look of the bike, its always going to be too good for me and I will get a full >12months enjoying the thing before a new model is released. It also relieved the pressure of looking at new bikes - it started consuming my life!!

[E65Ross]

Apparently due to having thru-axles you need to get a converter for direct-drive smart trainers as it's not an open drop-out frame. Canyon have said the "remove the cap on the drive side where the thru axle is" and then use the Wahoo conversion kit. Don't suppose you know if it's easy to remove and then replace this cap? They have also said to be very weary about carbon frame on a TT.....I've been using a TT for ages on a carbon frame and haven't encountered any issues....although I've always been quite careful not to over-tighten. I think it's far less of an issue with direct drive trainers as, I think, they don't "squash" the frame like traditional TT units do.

Thank you.

[russy01]

E65Ross said:

Apparently due to having thru-axles you need to get a converter for direct-drive smart trainers as it's not an open drop-out frame. Canyon have said the "remove the cap on the drive side where the thru axle is" and then use the Wahoo conversion kit. Don't suppose you know if it's easy to remove and then replace this cap? They have also said to be very weary about carbon frame on a TT.....I've been using a TT for ages on a carbon frame and haven't encountered any issues....although I've always been quite careful not to over-tighten. I think it's far less of an issue with direct drive trainers as, I think, they don't "squash" the frame like traditional TT units do.

Thank you.

I'm not using the Canyon on the Trainer, so dont know much about it. Im using my Giant TCR Advanced, which will be about half the price to replace if it breaks! Im sure when sat stationary pedalling in a controlled fashion at 200-400w its absolutely fine. But as soon as you start thrashing away, moving around and getting out of the saddle it certainly feels like the back of the bike is taking quite a bit of grief as the Neo doesn't move much. (Its only ever moved when I have been out of the saddle doing 900-1000w sprints during intervals.)

[okgo]

You'd have to be dead above the neck to do anything out of the saddle on a fixed turbo IMO. Totally mad.

[russy01]

okgo said:

You'd have to be dead above the neck to do anything out of the saddle on a fixed turbo IMO. Totally mad.

Ive done it on hundreds of short sprint efforts and had no issues at all. Obviously it isn't full on chuck the bike between the legs out of the saddle as you would on the road - its just standing up to release a bit tension and use a bit of weight on a really high power interval.

[E65Ross]

okgo said:

You'd have to be dead above the neck to do anything out of the saddle on a fixed turbo IMO. Totally mad.

Had my kickr for over 2 years now, used it quite extensively and never had any problems.

I could just use the Aeroad for when the sun is out, and use the current bike for wet days and turbo days

[okgo]

Yes, but you're tiny. I'd never dream of doing it, huge un-natrual forces on the bike.

[E65Ross]

okgo said:

Yes, but you're tiny. I'd never dream of doing it, huge un-natrual forces on the bike.

I don't know what you mean.....I did a sprint effort this morning and got a mighty 800W In reality though....Fair point

[E65Ross]

Well, merry Christmas everyone. On Friday....I ordered myself an Aeroad disc with Ultegra DI2 Already got a power meter for it so just a waiting game now