Electric bicycles - who buys them?

Electric bicycles - who buys them?

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nickfrog

21,164 posts

217 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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TerryTowling said:
E MTBs are good for those who are too lazy to climb
Not really. I am still climbing in my emtb, just faster, which gives me more time for the descents.
In fact, I have found that a emtb actually makes technical climbs far more fun than on an acoustic bike.

PushedDover

5,656 posts

53 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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nickfrog said:
TerryTowling said:
E MTBs are good for those who are too lazy to climb
Not really. I am still climbing in my emtb, just faster, which gives me more time for the descents.
In fact, I have found that a emtb actually makes technical climbs far more fun than on an acoustic bike.
I chose to ignore the ill founded statement too.

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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PushedDover said:
nickfrog said:
TerryTowling said:
E MTBs are good for those who are too lazy to climb
Not really. I am still climbing in my emtb, just faster, which gives me more time for the descents.
In fact, I have found that a emtb actually makes technical climbs far more fun than on an acoustic bike.
I chose to ignore the ill founded statement too.
But you didn't - either of you.

MaxFromage

1,887 posts

131 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Thanks for the tyre recommendations.

I have to say I'm surprised by the amount of problems people are having with their bikes. Only my experience, but the Haibike is rock solid in all respects. I'd imagine it would be just as reliable if it were derestricted :cough:

As ever, anyone with any ebike experience knows you can get just as much exercise out of one as a standard bike if you wish.

Trophy Husband

3,924 posts

107 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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The Mad Monk said:
PushedDover said:
nickfrog said:
TerryTowling said:
E MTBs are good for those who are too lazy to climb
Not really. I am still climbing in my emtb, just faster, which gives me more time for the descents.
In fact, I have found that a emtb actually makes technical climbs far more fun than on an acoustic bike.
I chose to ignore the ill founded statement too.
But you didn't - either of you.
FFS. Do you feel better now for having your twopence?
It is a thread about ebikes.
Those that have them go long, go hard and go further.
Try it with your Mrs.

GSE

2,341 posts

239 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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MaxFromage said:
As ever, anyone with any ebike experience knows you can get just as much exercise out of one as a standard bike if you wish.
Exactly. I recently did a 50 mile trip on the hottest day of the year to see relatives in Kent, following lifting of lockdown. Normally I would have used the car and taken the dreary M11/M25/Dartford Bridge route, but this time opted to do it by bike on an 'as the crow flies' route involving road, byways and the Tilbury-Gravesend ferry. Took about 3 1/2 hours and thoroughly enjoyed it. After a excellent barbeque to recharge the body, and an electrical recharge overnight, I got home 1/2 an hour quicker the next day in 3 hours!

I read somewhere that an e-bike takes about 25% off of the total energy requirement for a given trip. But as a range extender, e-bikes give far more benefit than that. They provide assistance when it's really needed - on hills- and seem to double your effective range. I could have done another 25 miles easily. I'm not sure I would have the confidence to do the same trip on a standard bike.



Phil.

4,764 posts

250 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Did a 2400 ft climb today, off and on road - these bikes are brilliant smile

Dog Star

16,134 posts

168 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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MaxFromage said:
Only my experience, but the Haibike is rock solid in all respects
Same here with my Haibike (except when I jetwashed water into the battery connector - hardly the bikes fault) - I will say that they do seem very very solid bikes. Mine takes some proper hammer too.

No issues with Mrs DS's Cube Acid One either, although that doesn't see anything like the mileage or off road abuse mine does.

nosuchuser

837 posts

216 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Trophy Husband said:
The Mad Monk said:
PushedDover said:
nickfrog said:
TerryTowling said:
E MTBs are good for those who are too lazy to climb
Not really. I am still climbing in my emtb, just faster, which gives me more time for the descents.
In fact, I have found that a emtb actually makes technical climbs far more fun than on an acoustic bike.
I chose to ignore the ill founded statement too.
But you didn't - either of you.
FFS. Do you feel better now for having your twopence?
It is a thread about ebikes.
Those that have them go long, go hard and go further.
Try it with your Mrs.
Absolutely.

Was at Peaslake on Saturday with 3 other guys on their luddite machines. We were sessioning Barry Knows Best and we'd do the trail then start the return climb together - I had enough time to steam up the hill, do the trail again and then catch them three quarters of the way up the return climb.

Same thing with Supernova and with Summer Lightning the week before. More miles, more runs, more fun.

I still ride my '04 Heckler and have just fitted a dropper, it's going to remain in use as a weekday fitness bike and the ebike will be the weekend trail machine so I see both sides of the argument. I'm even thinking about getting a 170mm enduro thing (Whyte G170 maybe) next year for uplift days and the Alps...

A lot of people don't appreciate that the motor assist has a cut off and past 15mph you're pedalling a heavy bike but hey, they're the acoustic old school heroes so what do we know...

Yidwann

1,872 posts

210 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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I am 2 weeks in an utterly converted, these old arguments are just well....tiresome, I have been mountain biking for 25 years, raced for 15 and owned quite a successful mountain bike website.... I think I have earnt the right to ride what I want. It seems to be the case aswell that a lot the people I encounter who are butt hurt by eBikes also haven't been riding that long on this new crest of Cycling popularity. I am glad the sport is growing but the sooner some of these people f**k off back to Golf the better!

I even sold my YT Capra, now thats not to mean normal bikes are dead for me, far from it, but the Bird Aeris that is going to come at some point might just get a bit more of a gnarly spec, as its going to be reserved for uplifts and the Alps.

I'll be going to QeCP tonight.... one word..... laps!

LukeSi

5,753 posts

161 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Not been called a cheat but been glared at a few times.
Also had a funny one the other day, pulled out of my street behind a bloke on a road bike. As soon as he saw me he started pedaling like mad going down a bank. I overtook him without the motor because my 133kg weight and my bikes 24.4kg weight makes it quite fast down hills.

kingston12

5,483 posts

157 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Yidwann said:
I am 2 weeks in an utterly converted, these old arguments are just well....tiresome, I have been mountain biking for 25 years, raced for 15 and owned quite a successful mountain bike website.... I think I have earnt the right to ride what I want. It seems to be the case aswell that a lot the people I encounter who are butt hurt by eBikes also haven't been riding that long on this new crest of Cycling popularity. I am glad the sport is growing but the sooner some of these people f**k off back to Golf the better!
Totally agree.

I just think that its totally bizarre that anyone would not see these bikes as an opportunity. I'm not a real MTBer, but I'm able to go out for longer rides and take on steeper hills than I would have been able to before. That's been more than worth the entry price to me.

A lot of people just like to start arguments and discussions I suppose. There are plenty of kids arguing about PS4 vs. Xbox or Apple vs. Android, so I guess this is just a (slightly) more grown-up version of that.


Trophy Husband

3,924 posts

107 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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I've just done a 820ft climb to Llyn Geirionydd. Had a sandwich in the rain and dropped onto the Sawbench (Marin Trail red), through the woods. Got filthy dirty and mud splattered! I still have 16 miles left on Turbo. No way on God's good earth I could envision doing that under my own steam.
Uphill great, downhill fabulous.
Ignore the Luddite crowd.
Remember when the only way you could get to New York was on a ship?
Those who got on a plane were cheats?
No, just had a bit more cash!
Envy is a dreadful motivator.

PushedDover

5,656 posts

53 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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nosuchuser said:
A lot of people don't appreciate that the motor assist has a cut off and past 15mph you're pedalling a heavy bike but hey, they're the acoustic old school heroes so what do we know...
This +100.

LeighW

4,404 posts

188 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Electric bikes weren't even on my radar, until I tried one. One of my clients invited me on a ride, and let me use his wife's Cube Access. Even though the geometry wasn't really ideal, we covered 23 miles on trails and over fields, and I hardly broke into a sweat. Hills became welcome, not a chore.

I ordered two that week, one for me, one for the wife. I'm not made of money, so have bought two Cube Acid One 400s. They were sold out pretty much everywhere, but I found a blue one for my wife at Bikester.co.uk, which arrived a couple of weeks ago from Germany. Mine was from Buyabike, and has taken a month to arrive, and it came yesterday, just in time for our trip away to the Lakes in our camper next week. Bring on those hills!

Freshly unboxed and being assessed by the cat...



Anyone want to buy a Scott Scale 60? hehe


anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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PushedDover said:
nosuchuser said:
A lot of people don't appreciate that the motor assist has a cut off and past 15mph you're pedalling a heavy bike but hey, they're the acoustic old school heroes so what do we know...
This +100.
I had totally forgotten about the 15mph thing wink

(never on public roads etc)

Blink982

767 posts

104 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Someone came past me on a very fancy e-MTB the other day (Black with gold or bronze decals but didn't catch brand) at well over 15mph so the limiters must be easily disabled.......I hadn't ever considered an e-bike until then.......

Edited by Blink982 on Wednesday 8th July 14:59

Phil.

4,764 posts

250 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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LeighW said:
Electric bikes weren't even on my radar, until I tried one. One of my clients invited me on a ride, and let me use his wife's Cube Access. Even though the geometry wasn't really ideal, we covered 23 miles on trails and over fields, and I hardly broke into a sweat. Hills became welcome, not a chore.

I ordered two that week, one for me, one for the wife. I'm not made of money, so have bought two Cube Acid One 400s. They were sold out pretty much everywhere, but I found a blue one for my wife at Bikester.co.uk, which arrived a couple of weeks ago from Germany. Mine was from Buyabike, and has taken a month to arrive, and it came yesterday, just in time for our trip away to the Lakes in our camper next week. Bring on those hills!

Freshly unboxed and being assessed by the cat...



Anyone want to buy a Scott Scale 60? hehe
Lovely bike. I’ve got a couple of Cube’s similar to your and they’re great. Rock solid reliability so far.

Yidwann

1,872 posts

210 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Has anyone got any more or enquired about getting your Bosch Gen4 upgraded yet?

PushedDover

5,656 posts

53 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Phil. said:
Lovely bike. I’ve got a couple of Cube’s similar to your and they’re great. Rock solid reliability so far.
Our Cubes are starting to niggle on sticky pads. I suspect the pistons have crud on them. I then went about cleaning them up - until the point that the piston fell out and tears on the floor.
Now waiting for the bits to allow me to fill back up.

Also note I have gone through a set of rear pads in 600miles...... quite surprising, so don't overlook your pad wear...