Electric bicycles - who buys them?
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It looks similar to the one I bought but mine is bigger, I bought a Selle Royal drifter which is an enormous sprung saddle. When my bike first arrived I took it up to the QE Park and there is a fairly long stone/gravel bit of road when I rode over it my first thoughts were this is not nice in fact it's f**king torture but I carried on and felt a bit uncomfortable on the sections. Anyway when I got home I ordered the Selle Royal it arrived put it on went on the same track and it was bliss. Came home and threw the medieval crutch torture saddle in the bin.
They do say there is an arse for every saddle and everyone who has tried my bike first of all say how powerful the assist in auto is and the second thing is how comfy the saddle is. Okay it does look big on the bike but I like it.
They do say there is an arse for every saddle and everyone who has tried my bike first of all say how powerful the assist in auto is and the second thing is how comfy the saddle is. Okay it does look big on the bike but I like it.
ChocolateFrog said:
Regarding Gocycle bikes is it as simple as setting the region to US in the app to set the motor to 500W?
In short yes. When you first connect to the app you can choose your location so just set it to US. You get a warning every time you connect to say you need to amend your settings based on location but you just click okay and you’re good to go.Well, having found that nobody seems to have any decent bikes in stock, I eventually located a Haibike Sduro Hardseven 4.0 at a local Tredz store.
It's a 2020 model, in bronze, the same as this:
Everywhere else said "Try us again in the Spring" so, given the lockdown, I thought it better to have a bike than nothing as there are sellouts and shortages everywhere. All I could squeeze them for was metal pedals and 2 years 0% finance but still had to pay full sticker.
Though this lacks the integrated battery of the 2021 2.5 (irrelevant since I can't get one), it has the better RockShox fork and Shimano Deore gears. It has the Yamaha PW-ST motor which it seems is quieter than the Bosch engines.
Even though, it's a medium 45cm frame, I can only just touch the floor and so I may have to cut the seat posty a centimetre or so. It's being delivered in a couple of days so I'll report back.
It's a 2020 model, in bronze, the same as this:
Everywhere else said "Try us again in the Spring" so, given the lockdown, I thought it better to have a bike than nothing as there are sellouts and shortages everywhere. All I could squeeze them for was metal pedals and 2 years 0% finance but still had to pay full sticker.
Though this lacks the integrated battery of the 2021 2.5 (irrelevant since I can't get one), it has the better RockShox fork and Shimano Deore gears. It has the Yamaha PW-ST motor which it seems is quieter than the Bosch engines.
Even though, it's a medium 45cm frame, I can only just touch the floor and so I may have to cut the seat posty a centimetre or so. It's being delivered in a couple of days so I'll report back.
Right, first impressions of the Haibike Hardseven 4.0 on a 6 mile ride are very favourable.
It's a little heavier than my son's Carrera Vulcan non-e-bike (obviously) but that is no hardship. I'm 61 and just over 11.5 stone and it still felt light and wieldy.
I initially rode it, without assistance as the first half of the ride is mainly downhill and I was beginning to think I should maybe have bought a normal MTB as this posed no great strain on anything. The return route, however, was a gentle uphill so I put it on the first level of assistance (there are 4).
This bike has two front sprockets and 10 rear so you have 20 gears to choose from, anyway so it's largely a question of having a choice about how hard you're going to work..
Coming up behind a few casual riders, I put assistance into max and was surprised at the rapid and effortless acceleration to pass them before reducing the assistance again. This is a very useful "turbo" feature.
Back home, there is a long hill up, on the estate and the normal MTB will generally get me halfway up before I run out of puff (I am far from fit) and have to get off and push. On the Haibike, on full assist, it was an absolute piece of cake.
Technically, the gears are easy to use (but no handlebar indicator of what gear you're in - which you get on the Vulcan so you have to look down to see on this) and the bar controller is easy to figure out (apart from converting kph to mph which YouTube knew and the manual didn't mention). The Yamaha PW-ST motor is quiet and barely noticable in operation.
So a strong thumbs up from me.
It's a little heavier than my son's Carrera Vulcan non-e-bike (obviously) but that is no hardship. I'm 61 and just over 11.5 stone and it still felt light and wieldy.
I initially rode it, without assistance as the first half of the ride is mainly downhill and I was beginning to think I should maybe have bought a normal MTB as this posed no great strain on anything. The return route, however, was a gentle uphill so I put it on the first level of assistance (there are 4).
This bike has two front sprockets and 10 rear so you have 20 gears to choose from, anyway so it's largely a question of having a choice about how hard you're going to work..
Coming up behind a few casual riders, I put assistance into max and was surprised at the rapid and effortless acceleration to pass them before reducing the assistance again. This is a very useful "turbo" feature.
Back home, there is a long hill up, on the estate and the normal MTB will generally get me halfway up before I run out of puff (I am far from fit) and have to get off and push. On the Haibike, on full assist, it was an absolute piece of cake.
Technically, the gears are easy to use (but no handlebar indicator of what gear you're in - which you get on the Vulcan so you have to look down to see on this) and the bar controller is easy to figure out (apart from converting kph to mph which YouTube knew and the manual didn't mention). The Yamaha PW-ST motor is quiet and barely noticable in operation.
So a strong thumbs up from me.
LuS1fer said:
Right, first impressions of the Haibike Hardseven 4.0 on a 6 mile ride are very favourable.
It's a little heavier than my son's Carrera Vulcan non-e-bike (obviously) but that is no hardship. I'm 61 and just over 11.5 stone and it still felt light and wieldy.
I initially rode it, without assistance as the first half of the ride is mainly downhill and I was beginning to think I should maybe have bought a normal MTB as this posed no great strain on anything. The return route, however, was a gentle uphill so I put it on the first level of assistance (there are 4).
This bike has two front sprockets and 10 rear so you have 20 gears to choose from, anyway so it's largely a question of having a choice about how hard you're going to work..
Coming up behind a few casual riders, I put assistance into max and was surprised at the rapid and effortless acceleration to pass them before reducing the assistance again. This is a very useful "turbo" feature.
Back home, there is a long hill up, on the estate and the normal MTB will generally get me halfway up before I run out of puff (I am far from fit) and have to get off and push. On the Haibike, on full assist, it was an absolute piece of cake.
Technically, the gears are easy to use (but no handlebar indicator of what gear you're in - which you get on the Vulcan so you have to look down to see on this) and the bar controller is easy to figure out (apart from converting kph to mph which YouTube knew and the manual didn't mention). The Yamaha PW-ST motor is quiet and barely noticable in operation.
So a strong thumbs up from me.
How much did you pay for that, if you do t mind me asking.?It's a little heavier than my son's Carrera Vulcan non-e-bike (obviously) but that is no hardship. I'm 61 and just over 11.5 stone and it still felt light and wieldy.
I initially rode it, without assistance as the first half of the ride is mainly downhill and I was beginning to think I should maybe have bought a normal MTB as this posed no great strain on anything. The return route, however, was a gentle uphill so I put it on the first level of assistance (there are 4).
This bike has two front sprockets and 10 rear so you have 20 gears to choose from, anyway so it's largely a question of having a choice about how hard you're going to work..
Coming up behind a few casual riders, I put assistance into max and was surprised at the rapid and effortless acceleration to pass them before reducing the assistance again. This is a very useful "turbo" feature.
Back home, there is a long hill up, on the estate and the normal MTB will generally get me halfway up before I run out of puff (I am far from fit) and have to get off and push. On the Haibike, on full assist, it was an absolute piece of cake.
Technically, the gears are easy to use (but no handlebar indicator of what gear you're in - which you get on the Vulcan so you have to look down to see on this) and the bar controller is easy to figure out (apart from converting kph to mph which YouTube knew and the manual didn't mention). The Yamaha PW-ST motor is quiet and barely noticable in operation.
So a strong thumbs up from me.
Got a deposit on one of these subject to test ride once the ice melts. Hopefully Tuesday.
https://www.giant-bicycles.com/gb/trance-eplus-1-p...
Got a healthy discount as ex demo. Only thing they had in stock under 7 grand!
https://www.giant-bicycles.com/gb/trance-eplus-1-p...
Got a healthy discount as ex demo. Only thing they had in stock under 7 grand!
TTmonkey said:
How much did you pay for that, if you do t mind me asking.?
Just short of 2250.It's about £1000 less than a Honda MSX125 so hardly great value, in theory but the components are all quality components, like a hi-fi, in fairness and I do suffer a bit from thinking a fiver is still a lot of money. Using the zero finance, it's just over £90 a month.
I did check an e-bike insurance policy and they wanted £144 when the Honda would be under 100 so I'll see about adding it to the house insurance.
Workshy Fop said:
Got a deposit on one of these subject to test ride once the ice melts. Hopefully Tuesday.
https://www.giant-bicycles.com/gb/trance-eplus-1-p...
Got a healthy discount as ex demo. Only thing they had in stock under 7 grand!
I've had one for a few months now and it is superb, first thing I did was remove the battery and spray all electrical contacts with ACF 50 and not had any problems. It's a well built bike and the 625 battery gives it a decent range. When I bought mine Giant were doing 3 years interest free credit so that was a no brainer as I couldn't get it at a discount price. Try it in auto mode it is really good.https://www.giant-bicycles.com/gb/trance-eplus-1-p...
Got a healthy discount as ex demo. Only thing they had in stock under 7 grand!
Edited by BIRMA on Saturday 9th January 21:18
Workshy Fop said:
Yeah there’s a Powerfly 5 localIy I can try that’s 29 and Bosch for comparison. Both are overkill for my usage and not fancying 120 quid for a chain and cassette if it’s going to be ripping through them. Sure that will go out the window when I get a shot ??
I've got a 2018 Bosch on my Bergamont Trailster. IIRC (the bike is in my office), I'm on 2k miles with same chain and cassette. The biggest chew on both of them is torque. I always set off with zero assist and work into the gearing and assistance. Mechanical sympathy is a must, just like a car.
Just been out in the snow. And you have to turn the wick down for the traction breaking..... fking hard word work and as much an exercise on the core muscles keeping the bike under you :
As for chains and cassettes, it also depends on what crud, grit, dust and alike you ride on. 1,000miles I would say should be fine on a chain. 2,000 on a cassette
As for chains and cassettes, it also depends on what crud, grit, dust and alike you ride on. 1,000miles I would say should be fine on a chain. 2,000 on a cassette
LuS1fer said:
Don't the 29 inchers then offer shorter front fork travel? 100 vs 120, generally, though I chose the 27.5 for height reasons.
Possibly - but really ? Need that full extra 20mm ?? How big are the jumps you nailing?I’d take the rolling radius advantage of 100% time over the forks I’ve never bottomed out.
It’s like the guys with the big 4x4 jacked up. They can do so much more than a FFRR ?
PushedDover said:
Possibly - but really ? Need that full extra 20mm ?? How big are the jumps you nailing?
I’d take the rolling radius advantage of 100% time over the forks I’ve never bottomed out.
It’s like the guys with the big 4x4 jacked up. They can do so much more than a FFRR ?
My F&R are both 140. Mid range adjustment. I don't mess about on the Sawbench Marin here in Trefriw. Plenty to spare on travel. I’d take the rolling radius advantage of 100% time over the forks I’ve never bottomed out.
It’s like the guys with the big 4x4 jacked up. They can do so much more than a FFRR ?
You've got to be killing it to go near full travel on either front or back!
Plus, if you have no skills, all the travel in the world will not help you!
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