Electric bicycles - who buys them?

Electric bicycles - who buys them?

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mike9009

7,016 posts

244 months

Monday 21st March 2022
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MOBB said:
Tried out my new Giant Road E+ 1 Pro yesterday, first time since deristricting it.

Averaged 24.5mph over a quick 7 mile route. That'll do :-)
What did you use to derestrict?

fizz47

2,679 posts

211 months

Monday 21st March 2022
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About to buy a Giant e bike too - how do you derestrict it?

Dog Star

16,143 posts

169 months

Monday 21st March 2022
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Went for a belting ride yesterday - some monster rocky, rooty climbs on it, real killers.

However I had a bit of an odd thing happen - I was almost home (quarter of a mile) and my battery went instantly from 20% to 2% confused

It was warm during the day and it had got very cold if that could make a difference.

Shimano EP8 with 630wh battery.

Any ideas?


MOBB

3,622 posts

128 months

Monday 21st March 2022
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mike9009 said:
MOBB said:
Tried out my new Giant Road E+ 1 Pro yesterday, first time since deristricting it.

Averaged 24.5mph over a quick 7 mile route. That'll do :-)
What did you use to derestrict?
Well, initially I tried a Speedbox 2.1, which didnt seem to work at all - however its a faff to drop the motor down to plug it all in, and then cramming all the cables and plugs back into a tight space was very unnerving! I wonder if I damaged it etc? Also the motor bolt heads seem to be made of chocolate, rounded 2 of them!!

I sent it back and replaced it with a Baddass Box 4, a much less elegant solution but it is a doddle to fit and works a treat, just a little ugly.

MOBB

3,622 posts

128 months

Monday 21st March 2022
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MaxFromage said:
MOBB said:
Tried out my new Giant Road E+ 1 Pro yesterday, first time since deristricting it.

Averaged 24.5mph over a quick 7 mile route. That'll do :-)
We're an exclusive club I think. I've had mine for just over a year, also derestricted. Great fun.
It has so much more grunt than my other ebike which has a Fazua system. Hills really are not a thing any more!

Plus being able to charge it on or off the bike is great, as is the range.

Part of me thought that my commute would be too easy now compared to before to gain any fitness, but now I've derestricted it I can really nail it and get a good workout, and get to work 10 mins earlier I suspect :-)

mikeiow

5,378 posts

131 months

Monday 21st March 2022
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Richyboy said:
Chicken Chaser said:
What is that? Looks like a useful folding option.
It’s a mate x 750w. The folding is only useful for easy transporting, it’s no Brompton. It has sram group set and brakes, I feel like this bike would be better non-electric.
42miles with 73% battery left?
You sure you turned it on? the specs only claim a 60 mile range!!

Looks a hoot!

MaxFromage

1,890 posts

132 months

Monday 21st March 2022
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MOBB said:
It has so much more grunt than my other ebike which has a Fazua system. Hills really are not a thing any more!

Plus being able to charge it on or off the bike is great, as is the range.

Part of me thought that my commute would be too easy now compared to before to gain any fitness, but now I've derestricted it I can really nail it and get a good workout, and get to work 10 mins earlier I suspect :-)
I'm using a Badass box as well.

I ride just as hard as a non-ebike, just you can go further, see more and spend less time on boring (to me anyway) hills...

fizz47

2,679 posts

211 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2022
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Thanks for the info on the de-restricting.

Some questions if some of you dont mind?


How many of you orderred an e-bike via the internet rather than directly at a shop? The bike is being delivered directly to my house and will require some assembly.

Are they easy to assemble? I'm not mechanically minded at all. Do I need special tools?

It has been many many years since I last cycled prorperly. With ebikes do I need to do anything in particular when I first start riding?


The bike in question is this:

https://www.giant-bicycles.com/gb/anytour-eplus-1-...


Bike will be stored in a locked garage. The bike will only be used for weekend causal riding and never really left in pubic for long periods of time; therefore I'm not worried about a heavy duty lock but looking for somethng easy, light and just just as a detterent while I run into a cafe or something. Im not in the UK and the area i live in make oppurtunists much lower ( although there is still bike crime here).

Hemlet recommendations for a lesuirely rider?




Cupramax

10,481 posts

253 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2022
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Most self assemble bikes are dead simple, it will likely be a case of putting the wheels (or one wheel) onto the bike, fitting the handlebars, basically just tightening an Allen screw and possibly screwing the pedals into the crank arms, that’s it, just make sure you don’t over tighten things that don’t need to be too tight. The bike will likely come with any tools needed, probably just a couple of Allen keys.

take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey

5,187 posts

56 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2022
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No mechanical experience... Worth borrowing / buying a small bike specific torque wrench.

ETA it 'might' be worth paying your local giant dealer yo build it for you. They can do any software updates at the same time... And it establishes a relationship IF the motor sts itself... Not uncommon on an eeb.

PushedDover

5,657 posts

54 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2022
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Or I am sure a friendly post on the Village FB group about help with a bike build, and hopes to ride out, will soon get a supportive answer

Driver101

14,376 posts

122 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2022
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Quite often now bike shops deliver bikes almost fully assembled. They are packed in large boxes and not the original shipping packaging. It should just be straightening the handlebars, adjusting the seat height and putting on a set of pedals. You might not get pedals with the bike.

When straightening the handlebars don't overtighten the bolts. The stem will be made of aluminium and the threads easy to strip.

Don't force the pedals in. Pick up the thread by hand and remember one side is a left hand thread.

A couple of Allen keys and a spanner or sometimes an Allen key for the pedals should be all you need.

Edited by Driver101 on Tuesday 22 March 11:36

gangzoom

6,305 posts

216 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2022
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fizz47 said:
The bike will only be used for weekend causal riding and never really left in pubic for long periods of time; therefore I'm not worried about a heavy duty lock but looking for somethng easy, light and just just as a detterent while I run into a cafe or something. Im not in the UK and the area i live in make oppurtunists much lower ( although there is still bike crime here).
Pretty much any lock can be defeated, its just how long it takes. Most of the light/small locks can be defeated with nothing more than cable/bolt cutters in seconds, literally walk up with a bolt cutter under the jacket, and snip, your bike is gone. D-locks take alot more effort and time, the idea is to use a lock that will deter a thief from attacking the lock on your bike but pick someone else bike to nick.

The beauty of an eBIke is you can carry a massive Abus Granit near 2kg lock and not 'feel' it at all, versus trying to carry that same lock on a road bike.

I use x2 D-locks on my eBike if am leaving it in public for any length time, if its just the shops I use just one D-lock. When the bike will carry the weight of a good lock for you use the best lock you can get, especially one costing nearly £4K, I would be tempted to use x2 Abus Granits or similar.

Bathroom_Security

3,340 posts

118 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2022
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Not sure if its any interest but been back on a normal MTB, usually once per week, since about Feb 1st.

I got my Gen 3 Levo in October 2021 and in 5 months I have lost a fair chunk of fitness, its coming back to me for sure but will take time. I think part of the problem has been riding with a group of 99% riders on non ebikes. For starters the bike came with 10-52 cassette but a 36t on the front, so even on 5% assist with the others on 34t chain rings I'd be out pacing them up steep hills, sounds nothing but It got the the point where if I wasn't up front or couldn't get through I'd have to stop and wait. Only recently swapped that out for 34t and that's got me matched to their speeds now so I can sit and grind it out with them

I cant help but leave it in 40-60% assist when on a trail. I like the speed you can generate from it, its part of the fun. Its definitely easier to pedal but its a much slower bike than a non-ebike is, so feel I have to keep the assist high when getting a pedal stroke or two in here or there (like a normal bike) but needs more power to maintain it's speed. I don't think that's helped either. Ive swapped out the rear tyre recently to something a bit faster and it definitely rolls a lot better so maybe that'll improve

I've not had any problem switching between the two bikes within a moment I seem to right at home. Hopefully having to use the old meat motor to power the bikes will bring my fitness back up. I think if I had ridden with other ebikers it might be a different story but I like the group I'm in. I know 2 guys have swapped their full fat ebikes in the group to SL's and usually ride them off or in 5%, I've ridden them but they feel broken to me.

fizz47

2,679 posts

211 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2022
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Thanks all for the quick and useful responses!!

gangzoom

6,305 posts

216 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2022
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On locks, I just had another look, interesting to see a 'new' cutting 'resistant' lock is about to hit the market. The marketing material looks very good, I've signed up for pre-ordering......No doubt though the thieves will come up with a new cutting disc to defeat it within a few months frown.

https://hiplok.com/d1000-anti-angle-grinder-bike-l...

JeffreyD

6,155 posts

41 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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Just thought I'd update this thread and say that over the last few months the Electric bike has changed my usage totally and I'm using it lots more than I would on a normal bike - it gives me a lot more confidence on busy roads, particularly those that are hilly.


But for balance I went for a ride with my wife on Saturday noticed I was low on charge but thought "I'll be ok"

I ran out 6 miles away from home.

Apparently the bike weighs 27.2 kg and with no assistance it's an absolute piece of st. Like riding a wattbike on max resistance with brakes stuck on.

Cheered my wife up no end as she found it hilarious.

Richyboy

3,740 posts

218 months

Thursday 24th March 2022
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mikeiow said:
42miles with 73% battery left?
You sure you turned it on? the specs only claim a 60 mile range!!

Looks a hoot!
That was riding it in eco mode with a lot of pedalling above 15mph. Unrestricted I think it’s like a moped so probably eats range.

redback911

2,725 posts

267 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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Quick update on wifeys eMTB. Like any responsible husband I've been regularly testing the bike to ensure its safe for her to use.



Finding it useful to walk the wolf, too.



Three months in and 300 km later, it's still brilliant. As predicted by others on the forum, I'm hooked. I ordered my own Moustache eMTB today, delivery will be a while (May) but the bike with have the new Bosch Performance Line CX motor, PowerTube 750 WH and "smart system" (new console with phone app).

MaxFromage

1,890 posts

132 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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redback911 said:
I ordered my own Moustache eMTB today, delivery will be a while (May) but the bike with have the new Bosch Performance Line CX motor, PowerTube 750 WH and "smart system" (new console with phone app).
Blimey 750WH. You'll be able to ride all day!