Electric bicycles - who buys them?
Discussion
J4CKO said:
Lol, very good, not much alteration needed, although its apparently a 1989 bike, that font and graphics is ever so 90s.
Yeah but apart from the graphics and the colour and the name, a Raleigh steel MTB frame is a good starting point for building an e-bike, steel is good. And a complete bike in decent condition for £22 was a steal.But like you said, what are you going to do with a 1500w bike? I'd be looking over my shoulder all the time, I guess a lot of people just don't care and seem to get away with it, so good luck with that
RizzoTheRat said:
What's the advantage of that kind of design over a suspension post that just runs straight down the tube? Does the linkage give a variable spring rate?
That's a very good question.I'm not really sure what variable spring rate is.
I have not much experience of 'up and down' posts. They could be better than the Suntour NCX for all I know, so my statement could be just waffle. I had an old one on an old bike once and it didn't seem to do much, but perhaps it was broken.
All I can say is that it is much comfier ride with this seatpost than with a rigid seatpost. A slightly strange sensation at first because when the post compresses it goes down and to the rear but you soon get used to it.
There are different strength springs available and there is pre-load adjustment.
Video review of it in action here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf0y8Omoow0
nickfrog said:
And where do you put the dropper?
Better off running low pressure on a 2.6 or 2.8 tyre for comfort. And retain the dropper.
I don't use a dropper, my bike is basically set up as a leisure bike for pottering about on tow-paths etc.Better off running low pressure on a 2.6 or 2.8 tyre for comfort. And retain the dropper.
I thought droppers were for downhill racers? Willing to learn otherwise.
Of course if you do use a dropper then I guess this seatpost is of no use. Weighs a bit too.
StressedEric said:
I don't use a dropper, my bike is basically set up as a leisure bike for pottering about on tow-paths etc.
I thought droppers were for downhill racers? Willing to learn otherwise.
Of course if you do use a dropper then I guess this seatpost is of no use. Weighs a bit too.
Droppers are for mountain bikes in general. Non negociable IME or anyone I have ever ridden with. Hence my comment that if you own a hardtail then a suspension seat post will massively compromise your bike for a benefit that can be obtained through tyre choice. I thought droppers were for downhill racers? Willing to learn otherwise.
Of course if you do use a dropper then I guess this seatpost is of no use. Weighs a bit too.
nickfrog said:
Droppers are for mountain bikes in general. Non negociable IME or anyone I have ever ridden with. Hence my comment that if you own a hardtail then a suspension seat post will massively compromise your bike for a benefit that can be obtained through tyre choice.
Mate, you clearly know your subject and your friends agree with you. But my bike is set up as a leisure/comfort bike for bimbling about Country parks/diused railway lines etc. and there are many like me. People like us don't need dropper posts (as far as I know). But your comments are valid I'm sure for more serious mountain bikers, and it's good you pointed this out.
RizzoTheRat said:
As in gives a different amount of force depending how far it's compressed. I sometimes bottom out the straight post on my city bike over speed humps, and wondered if that kind of design helps prevent such issues.
OK mate, I will try and bottom out the seat post over speed humps and report back.StressedEric said:
nickfrog said:
Droppers are for mountain bikes in general. Non negociable IME or anyone I have ever ridden with. Hence my comment that if you own a hardtail then a suspension seat post will massively compromise your bike for a benefit that can be obtained through tyre choice.
Mate, you clearly know your subject and your friends agree with you. But my bike is set up as a leisure/comfort bike for bimbling about Country parks/diused railway lines etc. and there are many like me. People like us don't need dropper posts (as far as I know). But your comments are valid I'm sure for more serious mountain bikers, and it's good you pointed this out.
Slightly unnecessary sniffy posts about must have a dropper
60 miles this weekend, 3,000 miles this last year - I agree the suspension post works as a great solution !
I know guys who need dropper posts as they can’t get a leg over. Maybe that’s what he means….
PushedDover said:
StressedEric said:
nickfrog said:
Droppers are for mountain bikes in general. Non negociable IME or anyone I have ever ridden with. Hence my comment that if you own a hardtail then a suspension seat post will massively compromise your bike for a benefit that can be obtained through tyre choice.
Mate, you clearly know your subject and your friends agree with you. But my bike is set up as a leisure/comfort bike for bimbling about Country parks/diused railway lines etc. and there are many like me. People like us don't need dropper posts (as far as I know). But your comments are valid I'm sure for more serious mountain bikers, and it's good you pointed this out.
Slightly unnecessary sniffy posts about must have a dropper
60 miles this weekend, 3,000 miles this last year - I agree the suspension post works as a great solution !
I know guys who need dropper posts as they can’t get a leg over. Maybe that’s what he means….
As for not getting my leg over lol, that sounds sniffy and unnecessary.
I really didn't mean to upset anyone, but it seems very difficult not to.
StressedEric said:
RizzoTheRat said:
As in gives a different amount of force depending how far it's compressed. I sometimes bottom out the straight post on my city bike over speed humps, and wondered if that kind of design helps prevent such issues.
OK mate, I will try and bottom out the seat post over speed humps and report back.
Upping the preload on mine would stop it bottoming out, but at he expense of comfort over smaller bumps, so got me wondering if there was a better solution.
StressedEric said:
Mate, you clearly know your subject and your friends agree with you. But my bike is set up as a leisure/comfort bike for bimbling about Country parks/diused railway lines etc. and there are many like me. People like us don't need dropper posts (as far as I know). But your comments are valid I'm sure for more serious mountain bikers, and it's good you pointed this out.
mike74 said:
What's the situation with regards to chains for ebikes?
Can you buy extra strong ones to reduce the chance of it snapping due to the extra torque and possibly the occasional clumsy gear shift?
Or are all chains the same?
Can: Worms.Can you buy extra strong ones to reduce the chance of it snapping due to the extra torque and possibly the occasional clumsy gear shift?
Or are all chains the same?
Some say that the economics of an EBike chain make no sense, and best to kill two normal chains for the the same price.
I guess that also fits with PH Mantra: Buy cheap, buy twice......
nickfrog said:
Nothing sniffy or unnecessary. I reacted to the idea that any hardtail could be transformed by a suspension post and highlighted that for most mountain bikers, serious or not, a dropper is essential particularly when a high volume rear tyre will do the same jobs and other jobs, particularly with traction. Now if one doesn't need a dropper, I am cool with it.
As for not getting my leg over lol, that sounds sniffy and unnecessary.
I really didn't mean to upset anyone, but it seems very difficult not to.
Why need a dropper on a Hardtail though? We've managed decades without them. What do they bring to the equation when you have ridden and compared against a suspension seatpost? They bring more weight and complexity. What did you feel was the difference in comfort?As for not getting my leg over lol, that sounds sniffy and unnecessary.
I really didn't mean to upset anyone, but it seems very difficult not to.
Dropping the pressure in the tyre makes it less efficient and more prone to punctures.
The 'leg over' was serious comment. two friends always use the dropper (only) to lower the seat to mount the bike.
PushedDover said:
Can: Worms.
Some say that the economics of an EBike chain make no sense, and best to kill two normal chains for the the same price.
I guess that also fits with PH Mantra: Buy cheap, buy twice......
Yes I did wonder if it's just as cheap to buy a chain tool and familiarise myself with the use of it!Some say that the economics of an EBike chain make no sense, and best to kill two normal chains for the the same price.
I guess that also fits with PH Mantra: Buy cheap, buy twice......
PushedDover said:
Why need a dropper on a Hardtail though? We've managed decades without them. What do they bring to the equation when you have ridden and compared against a suspension seatpost? They bring more weight and complexity. What did you feel was the difference in comfort?
Dropping the pressure in the tyre makes it less efficient and more prone to punctures.
The 'leg over' was serious comment. two friends always use the dropper (only) to lower the seat to mount the bike.
We've managed very well before they were invented that's for sure. If you can't see their value, then I can't help you. Dropping the pressure in the tyre makes it less efficient and more prone to punctures.
The 'leg over' was serious comment. two friends always use the dropper (only) to lower the seat to mount the bike.
Lowering the pressure makes it more efficient, however counter intuitive that may sounds, because the contact patch is in contact with the ground more of the time. Punctures are no worse when tubeless.
A dropper is as crucial on a hardtail as on a FS, this makes no difference. But if you prefer a suspension post, that is fine by me. You'll be in a microscopic minority, which doesn't mean you're wrong.
nickfrog said:
StressedEric said:
Got a hardtail? Don't hesitate, buy one of these, turn your bike into a semi-full-sus.
And where do you put the dropper?Better off running low pressure on a 2.6 or 2.8 tyre for comfort. And retain the dropper.
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