Electric bicycles - who buys them?

Electric bicycles - who buys them?

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WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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RizzoTheRat said:
Round here it's not the hills (90 meters elevation on an 18km ride last night biggrin), it's the wind, I struggled to get over 15kph pedalling down one slope last night. Old boy on an e-bike flew past me hehe
Looking to move house next spring/summer and seriously considering an e-bike to commute on if I'm within 10km or so from work. That's fine to commute on a normal bike in nice weather but when it's blowing a gale and raining letting the electrics take the strain is a great ide.
90 metres? yikes Do you live in the Alps?

It's 8metres in eighteen miles around here, but windy. Eh Funky?

hkp57

285 posts

123 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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If you want to go fast on a UK eBike, buy a Specialized Turbo Levo or Kenevo then use the 3rd party APP BleVo set the limiter to what you want. mine is at 40kph

"Voids the warranty" so before you take it to a specialized dealer use the standard mission control app to set it back to standard.

Toltec

7,161 posts

224 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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WinstonWolf said:
RizzoTheRat said:
Round here it's not the hills (90 meters elevation on an 18km ride last night biggrin), it's the wind, I struggled to get over 15kph pedalling down one slope last night. Old boy on an e-bike flew past me hehe
Looking to move house next spring/summer and seriously considering an e-bike to commute on if I'm within 10km or so from work. That's fine to commute on a normal bike in nice weather but when it's blowing a gale and raining letting the electrics take the strain is a great ide.
90 metres? yikes Do you live in the Alps?

It's 8metres in eighteen miles around here, but windy. Eh Funky?
My 11 mile ride to and from work was only around 20m in net elevation change, but 230-250m of total climb, used to take me nearly 40 minutes.

RizzoTheRat

25,203 posts

193 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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WinstonWolf said:
90 metres? yikes Do you live in the Alps?

It's 8metres in eighteen miles around here, but windy. Eh Funky?
That was going through the hilly region hehe



LeadFarmer

7,411 posts

132 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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Dog Star said:
Does it not bugger up the range?
Nothing changes with the Badass, other than the speedo reads at half speed. As soon as the speedo reads 15km the motor cuts off, but you are actually doing 30mph. Obviously if your using the battery power above 15mph then your using the battery for longer, so it doesn't last as long. And warranty will be void (but the Badass is easily removable in seconds if you need to take bike back to the shop).

Edited by LeadFarmer on Tuesday 11th September 13:21

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

253 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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hkp57 said:
If you want to go fast on a UK eBike, buy a Specialized Turbo Levo or Kenevo then use the 3rd party APP BleVo set the limiter to what you want. mine is at 40kph

"Voids the warranty" so before you take it to a specialized dealer use the standard mission control app to set it back to standard.
Warranty is not the issue - If you have a bump (your fault or not) your on an unlicensed/untaxed vehicle.....big problems.

Hoofy

76,406 posts

283 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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hkp57 said:
If you want to go fast on a UK eBike, buy a Specialized Turbo Levo or Kenevo then use the 3rd party APP BleVo set the limiter to what you want. mine is at 40kph

"Voids the warranty" so before you take it to a specialized dealer use the standard mission control app to set it back to standard.
biggrin

So what's the highest speed you can limit it to? biggrin

Cupramax

10,482 posts

253 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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Tiggsy said:
hkp57 said:
If you want to go fast on a UK eBike, buy a Specialized Turbo Levo or Kenevo then use the 3rd party APP BleVo set the limiter to what you want. mine is at 40kph

"Voids the warranty" so before you take it to a specialized dealer use the standard mission control app to set it back to standard.
Warranty is not the issue - If you have a bump (your fault or not) your on an unlicensed/untaxed vehicle.....big problems.
Unless you’re doing something rediculously stupid the police are not even remotely interested, I had one start chatting to me the other day while sat next to me in a marked car at traffic lights, my bike may be technically illegal but I don’t ride it like a dhead on the roads, he was just interested what it was.

Toltec

7,161 posts

224 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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hkp57 said:
If you want to go fast on a UK eBike, buy a Specialized Turbo Levo or Kenevo then use the 3rd party APP BleVo set the limiter to what you want. mine is at 40kph

"Voids the warranty" so before you take it to a specialized dealer use the standard mission control app to set it back to standard.
There is software for the Shimano system to, however it is a dealers only supplied thing as far as I can tell.

Zoon

6,714 posts

122 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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hkp57 said:
If you want to go fast on a UK eBike, buy a Specialized Turbo Levo or Kenevo then use the 3rd party APP BleVo set the limiter to what you want. mine is at 40kph

"Voids the warranty" so before you take it to a specialized dealer use the standard mission control app to set it back to standard.
Does this show the correct speed on mission control or is it just using the wheelsize trick?

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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WinstonWolf said:
RizzoTheRat said:
Round here it's not the hills (90 meters elevation on an 18km ride last night biggrin), it's the wind, I struggled to get over 15kph pedalling down one slope last night. Old boy on an e-bike flew past me hehe
Looking to move house next spring/summer and seriously considering an e-bike to commute on if I'm within 10km or so from work. That's fine to commute on a normal bike in nice weather but when it's blowing a gale and raining letting the electrics take the strain is a great ide.
90 metres? yikes Do you live in the Alps?

It's 8metres in eighteen miles around here, but windy. Eh Funky?
Indeed. You can tell when it's windy. Even when it's a bit windy, it feels windier out in the sticks without any shelter.

Barchettaman

6,321 posts

133 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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zubzob said:
Has anyone tried the Bosch trick of moving magnet from wheel to the pedal crank?
I don’t think that works anymore on the newer-gen Bosch systems.

ClassicMercs

1,703 posts

182 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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Anyone looking for a good deal right now - selling surplus Haibike stock at the end of season. So gutted - I got my sDuro Trekking 7.5 a few weeks ago - with a discount - now you can get the Trekking 9 for what I bought the 7.5 for. An extra 800 discount on this range topper - grab a bargain while you can.

HardtopManual

2,438 posts

167 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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zubzob said:
Riding a non-powered bike for 'better exercise', is a bit like going running in hiking boots. Sure you use more energy per mile, but you can't run as far, and it's not as fun, or as comfortable. In the long run, it's probably more sustainable to wear running shoes. smile
You can always count on PH to provide a spurious analogy.

Here's mine: riding an eBike for exercise is like going for swim on a speedboat.

hkp57

285 posts

123 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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Zoon said:
Does this show the correct speed on mission control or is it just using the wheelsize trick?
It shows correct speed and distance as its not a wheel size hack

Here is screen shot of app setup, set at max assist speed 75kph, only thing holding you back is running out of gears.



Edited by hkp57 on Wednesday 12th September 09:00



Then to do the whole hog you need the range extender from a guy in Belgium making piggy back batteries in 3 sizes that look like water bottles to give you 50%, 75% or 100% more range.



Edited by hkp57 on Wednesday 12th September 09:07

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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RizzoTheRat said:
Surely very few people who aren't keen regular cyclists get much over 15mph on a normal bike, so it seems a pretty sensible limit to me. On the flat I cruise at about 20kph (12.5 mph) on a normal bike, and few people who aren't lycra clad road racing types come past me at more than a few mph difference. Putting people who don't cycle that often on e-bikes that do double the average cyclists speeds might not be the best idea IMO.
I was speaking to a friend the other day who runs a bike shop. He said that most people who buy e-bikes from him are not enthusiast cyclists, and have very little cycling ability. They buy an e-bike and then ride it like a and fall off, even when it is limited to 25km/h. Most of them have never been 25kmh on a bike before, or ridden a motorbike, and these things will do 25kmh all day. He thinks that the speed caps are very sensible.

Zoon

6,714 posts

122 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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bulldong said:
RizzoTheRat said:
Surely very few people who aren't keen regular cyclists get much over 15mph on a normal bike, so it seems a pretty sensible limit to me. On the flat I cruise at about 20kph (12.5 mph) on a normal bike, and few people who aren't lycra clad road racing types come past me at more than a few mph difference. Putting people who don't cycle that often on e-bikes that do double the average cyclists speeds might not be the best idea IMO.
I was speaking to a friend the other day who runs a bike shop. He said that most people who buy e-bikes from him are not enthusiast cyclists, and have very little cycling ability. They buy an e-bike and then ride it like a and fall off, even when it is limited to 25km/h. Most of them have never been 25kmh on a bike before, or ridden a motorbike, and these things will do 25kmh all day. He thinks that the speed caps are very sensible.
So he doesn't advise them on the purchase then?

Bill

52,836 posts

256 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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There's a part of me that's quite looking forward to the electric motoX bike, but at 48 I'm not yet ready to give up doing it properly. wink There is a hill I have to push at the top on my 14 mile/1500 ft regular "long" route but I relish* the challenge.

*No, really. smile

Hoofy

76,406 posts

283 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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hkp57 said:
Zoon said:
Does this show the correct speed on mission control or is it just using the wheelsize trick?
It shows correct speed and distance as its not a wheel size hack

Here is screen shot of app setup, set at max assist speed 75kph, only thing holding you back is running out of gears.



Edited by hkp57 on Wednesday 12th September 09:00



Then to do the whole hog you need the range extender from a guy in Belgium making piggy back batteries in 3 sizes that look like water bottles to give you 50%, 75% or 100% more range.



Edited by hkp57 on Wednesday 12th September 09:07
So, how fast can it go if the speed is set to 75kph?

Dog Star

16,145 posts

169 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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hkp57 said:
Then to do the whole hog you need the range extender from a guy in Belgium making piggy back batteries in 3 sizes that look like water bottles to give you 50%, 75% or 100% more range.

Link??