Electric bicycles - who buys them?
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CAPP0 said:
How waterproof are the mid-mount Bosch units? I was out for a couple of hours yesterday, encountered a few unavoidable large puddle which I had to ride through, which I did slowly (I've got plenty of the "Go fast through puddles which turn out to be much deeper than expected" t-shirts 
). I don't think the drive ever got swamped, it was enough to get my feet a bit wet at the bottom of the stroke but there would have been water splashed up.
Anyway, on the way home I definitely felt like the motor was giving less than usual. Haven't had a chance to try it today yet, but was just pondering whether they're prone to water damage at all, in general use?
Soaked mine a few times, not had any issues so far touch wood. ). I don't think the drive ever got swamped, it was enough to get my feet a bit wet at the bottom of the stroke but there would have been water splashed up.Anyway, on the way home I definitely felt like the motor was giving less than usual. Haven't had a chance to try it today yet, but was just pondering whether they're prone to water damage at all, in general use?
nosuchuser said:
CAPP0 said:
How waterproof are the mid-mount Bosch units? I was out for a couple of hours yesterday, encountered a few unavoidable large puddle which I had to ride through, which I did slowly (I've got plenty of the "Go fast through puddles which turn out to be much deeper than expected" t-shirts ). I don't think the drive ever got swamped, it was enough to get my feet a bit wet at the bottom of the stroke but there would have been water splashed up.
Anyway, on the way home I definitely felt like the motor was giving less than usual. Haven't had a chance to try it today yet, but was just pondering whether they're prone to water damage at all, in general use?
Soaked mine a few times, not had any issues so far touch wood. ). I don't think the drive ever got swamped, it was enough to get my feet a bit wet at the bottom of the stroke but there would have been water splashed up.Anyway, on the way home I definitely felt like the motor was giving less than usual. Haven't had a chance to try it today yet, but was just pondering whether they're prone to water damage at all, in general use?
BIRMA said:
nosuchuser said:
CAPP0 said:
How waterproof are the mid-mount Bosch units? I was out for a couple of hours yesterday, encountered a few unavoidable large puddle which I had to ride through, which I did slowly (I've got plenty of the "Go fast through puddles which turn out to be much deeper than expected" t-shirts ). I don't think the drive ever got swamped, it was enough to get my feet a bit wet at the bottom of the stroke but there would have been water splashed up.
Anyway, on the way home I definitely felt like the motor was giving less than usual. Haven't had a chance to try it today yet, but was just pondering whether they're prone to water damage at all, in general use?
). I don't think the drive ever got swamped, it was enough to get my feet a bit wet at the bottom of the stroke but there would have been water splashed up.Anyway, on the way home I definitely felt like the motor was giving less than usual. Haven't had a chance to try it today yet, but was just pondering whether they're prone to water damage at all, in general use?
nosuchuser said:
Soaked mine a few times, not had any issues so far touch wood.
Good to hear!Soaked mine a few times, not had any issues so far touch wood.
CAPP0 said:
How waterproof are the mid-mount Bosch units? I was out for a couple of hours yesterday, encountered a few unavoidable large puddle which I had to ride through, which I did slowly (I've got plenty of the "Go fast through puddles which turn out to be much deeper than expected" t-shirts ). I don't think the drive ever got swamped, it was enough to get my feet a bit wet at the bottom of the stroke but there would have been water splashed up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5fj50Mvhds ). I don't think the drive ever got swamped, it was enough to get my feet a bit wet at the bottom of the stroke but there would have been water splashed up.Shouldn't be any problem a quick splash through a deep puddle. I did see or read somewhere also that I think it was the Bosch motor was the only one to have "O" seals on each end of the driveshaft.
I think they do also have an IP rating, so might be worth checking out what that rating is, and what level of protection that gives the motor. (Will post if I can find it)
- Bosch motors are apparently rated at IP54 - Which means limited dust protection, and protected from water spray from any direction.
Edited by BlackG7R on Sunday 17th January 13:32
Edited by BlackG7R on Sunday 17th January 13:51
80 miles from new on the haibike all mtn 3.0.
Offftttt
On another note, tredz returned the cube acid back on Thursday, they updated the firmware and put the cutting out to a "glitch".
It's been fine for the last 2 days or so cycling to work.
The difference between the Bosch performance line motor (65nm) and the Bosch performance line CX (85nm) is staggering, cx is alot noiser also.
Offftttt
On another note, tredz returned the cube acid back on Thursday, they updated the firmware and put the cutting out to a "glitch".
It's been fine for the last 2 days or so cycling to work.
The difference between the Bosch performance line motor (65nm) and the Bosch performance line CX (85nm) is staggering, cx is alot noiser also.
Edited by shady lee on Saturday 23 January 14:52
Cupramax said:
How in gods name have you managed to kill a set of pads in 80 miles? We’re they all downhill riding the brakes or something? My bogo shimano ones tend to last 500 miles minimum and that’s on a hefty old clod of a 25kg home build.
I have no idea!Some chatter on the haibike forum about them being mineral pads.
Heavy mud and snow use, but yeah, 80 miles. (Ish)
CAPP0 said:
How waterproof are the mid-mount Bosch units? I was out for a couple of hours yesterday, encountered a few unavoidable large puddle which I had to ride through, which I did slowly (I've got plenty of the "Go fast through puddles which turn out to be much deeper than expected" t-shirts ). I don't think the drive ever got swamped, it was enough to get my feet a bit wet at the bottom of the stroke but there would have been water splashed up.
Anyway, on the way home I definitely felt like the motor was giving less than usual. Haven't had a chance to try it today yet, but was just pondering whether they're prone to water damage at all, in general use?
). I don't think the drive ever got swamped, it was enough to get my feet a bit wet at the bottom of the stroke but there would have been water splashed up.Anyway, on the way home I definitely felt like the motor was giving less than usual. Haven't had a chance to try it today yet, but was just pondering whether they're prone to water damage at all, in general use?
No issues with a CX after ‘paddling’ through this for approx 1/4 mile yesterday.
shady lee said:
Cupramax said:
How in gods name have you managed to kill a set of pads in 80 miles? We’re they all downhill riding the brakes or something? My bogo shimano ones tend to last 500 miles minimum and that’s on a hefty old clod of a 25kg home build.
I have no idea!Some chatter on the haibike forum about them being mineral pads.
Heavy mud and snow use, but yeah, 80 miles. (Ish)
vindaloo79 said:
These look immense fun, more of a moped than a mtb, but solid value compared with main brands
https://youtu.be/ZRGT1SAH1Es
Frey bike, has anyone had a go of one?
Just ordered the EX to upgrade from my Cannondale Cujo, reviews are pretty impressive, love the idea of a thumb throttle so i can stand up and let the blood flow back to bits every 1/2hrhttps://youtu.be/ZRGT1SAH1Es
Frey bike, has anyone had a go of one?
The Bafang unit is hands above even the 120nm TQ unit at 160nm, twin battery pack but you can go out with one if needs be.
Edited by galtezza on Monday 25th January 06:52
galtezza said:
Just ordered the EX to upgrade from my Cannondale Cujo, reviews are pretty impressive, love the idea of a thumb throttle so i can stand up and let the blood flow back to bits every 1/2hr
The Bafang unit is hands above even the 120nm TQ unit at 160nm, twin battery pack but you can go out with one if needs be.
Where did you order it from?The Bafang unit is hands above even the 120nm TQ unit at 160nm, twin battery pack but you can go out with one if needs be.
Edited by galtezza on Monday 25th January 06:52
Is there a dealer in the UK?
The Mad Monk said:
galtezza said:
Just ordered the EX to upgrade from my Cannondale Cujo, reviews are pretty impressive, love the idea of a thumb throttle so i can stand up and let the blood flow back to bits every 1/2hr
The Bafang unit is hands above even the 120nm TQ unit at 160nm, twin battery pack but you can go out with one if needs be.
Where did you order it from?The Bafang unit is hands above even the 120nm TQ unit at 160nm, twin battery pack but you can go out with one if needs be.
Edited by galtezza on Monday 25th January 06:52
Is there a dealer in the UK?
Ive gone for the 1000EX in bronze, did look and and test the sur-ron & Bultaco Brinco against the 120nm haibike to get a feel of power wanted, 120nm haibike just not quite enough and the others too much so i think 160nm will be the sweet spot, the gear set, brakes, shocks, forks etc on the Frey are very good quality for the money, looks cool in the bronze to:
galtezza said:
Dont know, dont think so, ive been dealing with the European importer in Switzerland (Marcel) who will send anywhere in europe for 290€
Ive gone for the 1000EX in bronze, did look and and test the sur-ron & Bultaco Brinco against the 120nm haibike to get a feel of power wanted, 120nm haibike just not quite enough and the others too much so i think 160nm will be the sweet spot, the gear set, brakes, shocks, forks etc on the Frey are very good quality for the money, looks cool in the bronze to:
Hi, that looks nice indeed. Can you share details of this chap/site link?Ive gone for the 1000EX in bronze, did look and and test the sur-ron & Bultaco Brinco against the 120nm haibike to get a feel of power wanted, 120nm haibike just not quite enough and the others too much so i think 160nm will be the sweet spot, the gear set, brakes, shocks, forks etc on the Frey are very good quality for the money, looks cool in the bronze to:
vindaloo79 said:
galtezza said:
Dont know, dont think so, ive been dealing with the European importer in Switzerland (Marcel) who will send anywhere in europe for 290€
Ive gone for the 1000EX in bronze, did look and and test the sur-ron & Bultaco Brinco against the 120nm haibike to get a feel of power wanted, 120nm haibike just not quite enough and the others too much so i think 160nm will be the sweet spot, the gear set, brakes, shocks, forks etc on the Frey are very good quality for the money, looks cool in the bronze to:
Hi, that looks nice indeed. Can you share details of this chap/site link?Ive gone for the 1000EX in bronze, did look and and test the sur-ron & Bultaco Brinco against the 120nm haibike to get a feel of power wanted, 120nm haibike just not quite enough and the others too much so i think 160nm will be the sweet spot, the gear set, brakes, shocks, forks etc on the Frey are very good quality for the money, looks cool in the bronze to:
Chap is Marcel (responds well to email) http://www.frey-bike-schweiz.ch/
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