MTB lights

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Fluffsri

3,165 posts

197 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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Buy the best you can afford!

I really like the USE Exposure stuff though LOL.

Craikeybaby

10,421 posts

226 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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I can’t afford Exposure stuff.

millen

688 posts

87 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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jcborden said:
I’ve been using one of thrpese for the past 18months (actually the te-tech version, which isn’t currently available on Amazon) https://www.amazon.co.uk/AUOPLUS-Headlight-Recharg...

It is actually about 1200 Luke’s when compared to some of my equivalent torches, has an excellent handlebar Mount with great battery life. Absolute bargain.
I've just bought one of these - thanks for the recommendation. Seems much better than the feeble Lezyme I've been using and was still going strong after 8 hrs on Low setting with a bit of High thrown in. Only negatives are the separate battery is a bit of a faff and the overall weight is more. Anyway, it gets its first outing tomorrow.

Also bought the Moon Nebula rear as recommended on another PH thread (a good price at Tredz). Awesome! Brightest strobe looks likely to dazzle drivers so perhaps only for daylight or fog.

moanthebairns

17,949 posts

199 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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moanthebairns said:
bagusbagus said:
moanthebairns said:
how are you mounting the BLF A6 XPL onto the bike?

I too am on the look out for a decent light for trails as its starting to get dark earlier during the week. Something that isn't st, will last and doesn't fall off over jumps.
80cents.. Very decent holder. got 3 of them across various bikes, all seem to last pretty gut and keeps the light in very nice and snug, also very easy to put it in/take it out.



https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Universal-Blac...
Thanks for the effort of posting that, I looked at buying your setup, seems very good. Only downside is I need one for this weekend kinda thing, ordering it all seemed like it could take weeks and if i bought via the uk it all added up cost wise.

ended up getting a little Magicshine MJ-900 1200 lumen thingy. £43, I'll see how it is, just to get me out in the trails at the back of my house during winter, probably end up sticking a second light on my helmet but I am very wary of this.
Well after reading reviews by bike mags I got the magicshine. It came and wow it was bright, I took it on my local trails one darkening night and it died within 20 mins. Ah, maybe I never charged it fully. So I tried again, same thing happened at full power, 20 mins max running time at full beam but low setting would work all the trail.

So last night I thought I better drag myself out to the woods get some exercise, fully charger battery, 10 mins of superb light, then as I'm going over narrow elevated icy decking with a fair fall in the middle of the woods it goes completely dark. fk....slam brakes on nearly crashing off the decking. I try the lower setting great that works, I can see enough, that will get me home. But then it dies 10 mins later as well. So i had to complete the journey in pitch black using my phone.

Pish...I don't know if its a faulty battery but they specify a max 1200 lumens output run time of 1.1/2 hours. It's getting sent promptly back.

vwsurfbum

895 posts

212 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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I used magic shine lights. I very rarely used full power unless doing a DH run. i'd keep it on low 90% of the time and last 4hrs.

bagusbagus

451 posts

89 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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moanthebairns said:
Well after reading reviews by bike mags I got the magicshine. It came and wow it was bright, I took it on my local trails one darkening night and it died within 20 mins. Ah, maybe I never charged it fully. So I tried again, same thing happened at full power, 20 mins max running time at full beam but low setting would work all the trail.

So last night I thought I better drag myself out to the woods get some exercise, fully charger battery, 10 mins of superb light, then as I'm going over narrow elevated icy decking with a fair fall in the middle of the woods it goes completely dark. fk....slam brakes on nearly crashing off the decking. I try the lower setting great that works, I can see enough, that will get me home. But then it dies 10 mins later as well. So i had to complete the journey in pitch black using my phone.

Pish...I don't know if its a faulty battery but they specify a max 1200 lumens output run time of 1.1/2 hours. It's getting sent promptly back.
That's what you get for purchasing st lights... Probably doesn't have anywhere close to those 1200lumens and the batteries inside are some chinesium junk...
Most people have no idea how much exactly is the 100 , 500, 1200 lumens .


I will post this again, have patience and wait for the few weeks it takes it to arrive! You are not getting anything better Under $100 price point than this setup:


BLF A6 ( 1600 REAL Lumens in turbo with good high discharge battery such as q30 ),
has a special Bike mode as well ( constant light+strobe all together)
Excellent quality. around £20

+ Samsung q30 18650 cells ( around £4 each - buy from UK from a good store!)
+ liitokala lii cell charger ( search around its around $2-$3 from china, very good quality)



bagusbagus

451 posts

89 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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AGAIN I'm warning everyone - STOP Spending Hundreds on lights with some fancy names from UK - They are OVERPRICED scam ( overpriced by 5-15x usually)

It's not really- the more you spend the better you get.
It all depends on exact models you are getting!

If you want QUALITY good lights which are well made , stick to CONVOY or BLF a6 models and that's really it!
Get good cells and you are set for rather cheap.

You can build a set which will be the brightest thing you have ever seen for under $30, anything over that is just a scam!

Also Don't fall for the fake lumens...
RESEARCH ! RESEARCH ! RESEARCH!





moanthebairns

17,949 posts

199 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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With the greatest respect, UK company, scores high in every MTB review, comes recommended from them all. I mean it turns out they are st.....but still. When every mag is giving rav reviews.

bagusbagus

451 posts

89 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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MarkJS said:
Another firm vote for Exposure. They’re not cheap, but if you want robust reliability with brilliant performance, they’re worth every penny.
Lol.. Had a look, they look EXACTLY like the st lights you can get directly from china yourself for 8-10x cheaper, they have probably requested a better QC and equipped them with better cells (Hopefully) and are now flogging them like some kind of miracle -Hi-Tech Gear!
btw They will provide actually decent enough light and performance (not Perfect, but ok enough)

You are essentially paying around £100 for about £15 worth of stuff..
If you fall for that crap... That's on you!

bagusbagus

451 posts

89 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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moanthebairns said:
With the greatest respect, UK company, scores high in every MTB review, comes recommended from them all. I mean it turns out they are st.....but still. When every mag is giving rav reviews.
The power of marketing... go on actual flashLight Forums and ask there... what else would you expect from a magazine which has been paid and given those lights for free and tested them for 10minutes?

Most of the people I know Thinks that a flashlight from a cellphone or a $1 Poundland flashlight is very good, depends who you ask!
Most haven't used anything better so just have no idea.



Gareth79

7,689 posts

247 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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Or if you do get a cheapo Chinese light, carry an alkaline AA backup in your backpack (and a handlebar mount) so you can get home!

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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Whatever you get, don't get flashing and strobing lights. Most stupid thing ever to put a light on the front of your bike that "dazzles" on coming cars. And essentially hides the bike and rider from view.

benny.c

3,483 posts

208 months

Saturday 3rd November 2018
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I tend to go for the “invest in something that will last” approach. My last set of lights were from Ay-Up - https://ayup-lights.com. They cost me about £250 but I used them for ten years and sold them on eBay for £50 earlier this year. So £20/y.

They have been replaced with a Hope R2i for £140. Not cheap but then I expect it to last for a minimum of five years, so £28/y. For me personally that’s acceptable for a quality product from a company with decent customer service.

jockinthebox

149 posts

100 months

Saturday 3rd November 2018
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bagusbagus said:
Lol.. Had a look, they look EXACTLY like the st lights you can get directly from china yourself for 8-10x cheaper, they have probably requested a better QC and equipped them with better cells (Hopefully) and are now flogging them like some kind of miracle -Hi-Tech Gear!
btw They will provide actually decent enough light and performance (not Perfect, but ok enough)

You are essentially paying around £100 for about £15 worth of stuff..
If you fall for that crap... That's on you!
On the eBay link you posted for the UK seller, there are 3 types/models, which would you recommend for cycling?

MC Bodge

21,671 posts

176 months

Saturday 3rd November 2018
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I used a cheap DX Cree light for MTB for a few years, then relegated it to on/off road commuting for years. The original battery pack must have been a good one, as it lasted for many years. I do need a new one now.

I use a Solar Storm x2 velcro'd to my helmet for MTB. The original battery was poor, so I have a 6 cell battery pack that I bought from a well regarded eBay seller. It is certainly bright enough for technical and quick riding, if not the absolute brightest (how bright do you need?). It doesn't hold me back when out with a group.

I don't bother with a bar mount. Helmet mount is far better than bar mount for off road.

The keen MTB night riders that I know use various similar lights. Mostly not the expensive ones.

Edited by MC Bodge on Saturday 3rd November 10:21

andySC

1,194 posts

159 months

Saturday 3rd November 2018
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Another vote for Exposure. I have a Strada for the road coupled with a RedEye rear (nearly 10 years old) and it’s still perfect. I use a MaxxD for off-road after finally binning the cheapo Chinese option. This is the newer one with the “smart” brightness adjustment (I was sceptical but it works great). It’s over 2000 lumens & I don’t bother backing it up with a head torch now as the spread of light is big enough.

As an aside, my mate had an older MaxxD that he damaged. He sent it back to Exposure and it was returned fully repaired and refurbed for £12 ! £12 !!

MarkJS

1,551 posts

148 months

Saturday 3rd November 2018
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bagusbagus said:
Lol.. Had a look, they look EXACTLY like the st lights you can get directly from china yourself for 8-10x cheaper, they have probably requested a better QC and equipped them with better cells (Hopefully) and are now flogging them like some kind of miracle -Hi-Tech Gear!
btw They will provide actually decent enough light and performance (not Perfect, but ok enough)

You are essentially paying around £100 for about £15 worth of stuff..
If you fall for that crap... That's on you!
Utter nonsense. I did 21 miles last night (with 2400 ft of climbing so some big, fast drops in the mix) almost completely off-road with a 5 year old Maxx-D on the bar and a Joystick helmet light. The light/performance they gave is generally unbeatable in my opinion. Around 60% battery power left when I arrived home and they were only charged before a previous short 8 mile ride the week before.

They are out in all weather & temperatures through mud and snow and simply don't fail. The Maxx-D could be made from £50 worth of components, but I very much doubt it and what they do for me is worth every penny that I paid...

MC Bodge

21,671 posts

176 months

Saturday 3rd November 2018
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MarkJS said:
bagusbagus said:
Lol.. Had a look, they look EXACTLY like the st lights you can get directly from china yourself for 8-10x cheaper, they have probably requested a better QC and equipped them with better cells (Hopefully) and are now flogging them like some kind of miracle -Hi-Tech Gear!
btw They will provide actually decent enough light and performance (not Perfect, but ok enough)

You are essentially paying around £100 for about £15 worth of stuff..
If you fall for that crap... That's on you!
Utter nonsense. I did 21 miles last night (with 2400 ft of climbing so some big, fast drops in the mix) almost completely off-road with a 5 year old Maxx-D on the bar and a Joystick helmet light. The light/performance they gave is generally unbeatable in my opinion. Around 60% battery power left when I arrived home and they were only charged before a previous short 8 mile ride the week before.

They are out in all weather & temperatures through mud and snow and simply don't fail. The Maxx-D could be made from £50 worth of components, but I very much doubt it and what they do for me is worth every penny that I paid...
I fail to see the nonsense.

MarkJS

1,551 posts

148 months

Saturday 3rd November 2018
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MC Bodge said:
MarkJS said:
bagusbagus said:
Lol.. Had a look, they look EXACTLY like the st lights you can get directly from china yourself for 8-10x cheaper, they have probably requested a better QC and equipped them with better cells (Hopefully) and are now flogging them like some kind of miracle -Hi-Tech Gear!
btw They will provide actually decent enough light and performance (not Perfect, but ok enough)

You are essentially paying around £100 for about £15 worth of stuff..
If you fall for that crap... That's on you!
Utter nonsense. I did 21 miles last night (with 2400 ft of climbing so some big, fast drops in the mix) almost completely off-road with a 5 year old Maxx-D on the bar and a Joystick helmet light. The light/performance they gave is generally unbeatable in my opinion. Around 60% battery power left when I arrived home and they were only charged before a previous short 8 mile ride the week before.

They are out in all weather & temperatures through mud and snow and simply don't fail. The Maxx-D could be made from £50 worth of components, but I very much doubt it and what they do for me is worth every penny that I paid...
I fail to see the nonsense.
Why? The post I responded to was from someone who’d “had a look” and in their opinion, the UK components “looked” the same as what you can get from the Far East ‘at a fraction of the price’.

Hardly a proper comparison or a real world user experience of either product.

Hence, nonsense.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Sunday 4th November 2018
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MarkJS said:
MC Bodge said:
MarkJS said:
bagusbagus said:
Lol.. Had a look, they look EXACTLY like the st lights you can get directly from china yourself for 8-10x cheaper, they have probably requested a better QC and equipped them with better cells (Hopefully) and are now flogging them like some kind of miracle -Hi-Tech Gear!
btw They will provide actually decent enough light and performance (not Perfect, but ok enough)

You are essentially paying around £100 for about £15 worth of stuff..
If you fall for that crap... That's on you!
Utter nonsense. I did 21 miles last night (with 2400 ft of climbing so some big, fast drops in the mix) almost completely off-road with a 5 year old Maxx-D on the bar and a Joystick helmet light. The light/performance they gave is generally unbeatable in my opinion. Around 60% battery power left when I arrived home and they were only charged before a previous short 8 mile ride the week before.

They are out in all weather & temperatures through mud and snow and simply don't fail. The Maxx-D could be made from £50 worth of components, but I very much doubt it and what they do for me is worth every penny that I paid...
I fail to see the nonsense.
Why? The post I responded to was from someone who’d “had a look” and in their opinion, the UK components “looked” the same as what you can get from the Far East ‘at a fraction of the price’.

Hardly a proper comparison or a real world user experience of either product.

Hence, nonsense.
I too fail to see the nonesense. You’ve just described the stuff you have did a good job. But nothing else.

And you aren’t honestly trying to suggest the “U.K. components” are actually built in the U.K. are you?