What's peoples views on me getting this ?

[Ilovejapcrap]

all,

Started doing a little bit of cycling, mainly road.

I suffer with back issues and the racer is killing me.

I've seen this and really like it, in a sale as obv 2018 model.

I do intend to change the bars to a bullhorn style with tape but keep the sort of gear change etc it has which is kinda mountain bike.

If i got this would it be Ok for if i joined a club in future or do you HAVE to have a bendy bar racer.

https://www.cube.eu/cz/2018/bikes/road/road-cycloc...

[shouldbworking]

get that if you want, but I think you'd be better off trying something labelled adventure / gravel and changing to road tyres. Whilst retaining drop bars, the geometry is a lot more upright than a true road bike, whilst still retaining the option to get aero when you want.

[upsidedownmark]

I think trying to use those brakes and shifters on a drop bar would be hideous. Not sure what you have at the moment, but there are plenty of more upright road style bikes around, or just commit to the flat bar.

[Brads67]

If you have a bad back the road bike will be better for it than a straight bar type.

IF you have it set up correctly that is.
Keep the road bike and spend £80 on a bike fit, you`ll be amazed.

And another thing, more upright is worse for your back and causes more pain. Get bent right over on the drops and you take all the weight off your lower back.

[TwistingMyMelon]

See a bike fitter first and get your back and position assessed by them

[bagusbagus]

If you want Aero - install tribars on ANY BIKE- far better aero than the ''race road'' bikes have also dress more ''tight''
If you want to actually enjoy your ride leisurely have comfort/ease of riding it anywhere and do not do more than 30-50km a day, get that flatbar!

If your enjoyment consists of dressing up in ridiculous outfits, only driving along with cars on road risking getting run over, inhaling all the exhaust fumes, bending your back like a dog about to take a st , having less comfort, not being able to enjoy your surroundings while you drive ultra mega super fast ( maybe 3km/h faster than a standard bike,lol? ) ,not being able to manoeuvre as good etc than stick with the ULTRA-SUPER-COOL Road bike everyone recommends just because it's ''so cool'' and you get bonus point for driving a bike with road bike bars.



I have had over 50 bikes in past year, (when I see something good locally I can flip for double/triple, I get it...)
Obviously I try each for a few days as well..
Having tried all the bling-bling Carbon bikes, all the U1tra Sup3r Hardc0re mega things that comes with them I Still don't understand why People even get the Road bikes.. They are just st to actually ride and enjoy for everyday things.

A Flatbar like that with good tyres ( tyres are even MORE important than the bike itself- not wheels, but TYRES) will be far more enjoyable/usable for the regular person..
If you plan to be on TV and want to break speed records- That does not applies to you obviously.

[FredClogs]

bagusbagus said:

I have had over 50 bikes in past year, (when I see something good locally I can flip for double/triple, I get it...)
Obviously I try each for a few days as well..
Having tried all the bling-bling Carbon bikes, all the U1tra Sup3r Hardc0re mega things that comes with them I Still don't understand why People even get the Road bikes.. They are just st to actually ride and enjoy for everyday things.

Sorry do derail the thread but where are you buying these under values bikes and where are you selling them because I'm in the market for a second hand bike and ebay and other classified adds don't seem to be turning up much.

[Barchettaman]

bagusbagus said:

a load of weird stuff.

Mate, put some of your profits from bike flipping into a decent fit, you'll be pleasantly surprised.

Road bike handlebars are usually the best option for road riding as they offer so many different hand positions.

Sticking aerobar clip-ons onto a flat bar road bike with a 73 deg seat tube angle is not necessarily recommended, but hey, whatever floats your stoat.

[Barchettaman]

FredClogs said:

Sorry to derail the thread but where are you buying these under valued bikes and where are you selling them because I'm in the market for a second hand bike and ebay and other classified adds don't seem to be turning up much.

I've had success buying in the UK on Gumtree in the autumn, and selling in late spring in Germany (where I live), as the second-hand market for bikes here is much stronger.

Road bikes with STI and Specialized HotRock kid's bikes generate the most profit IME.

I appreciate this might not be an option for you!

[Brads67]

bagusbagus said:

If you want Aero - install tribars on ANY BIKE- far better aero than the ''race road'' bikes have also dress more ''tight''
If you want to actually enjoy your ride leisurely have comfort/ease of riding it anywhere and do not do more than 30-50km a day, get that flatbar!

If your enjoyment consists of dressing up in ridiculous outfits, only driving along with cars on road risking getting run over, inhaling all the exhaust fumes, bending your back like a dog about to take a st , having less comfort, not being able to enjoy your surroundings while you drive ultra mega super fast ( maybe 3km/h faster than a standard bike,lol? ) ,not being able to manoeuvre as good etc than stick with the ULTRA-SUPER-COOL Road bike everyone recommends just because it's ''so cool'' and you get bonus point for driving a bike with road bike bars.



I have had over 50 bikes in past year, (when I see something good locally I can flip for double/triple, I get it...)
Obviously I try each for a few days as well..
Having tried all the bling-bling Carbon bikes, all the U1tra Sup3r Hardc0re mega things that comes with them I Still don't understand why People even get the Road bikes.. They are just st to actually ride and enjoy for everyday things.

A Flatbar like that with good tyres ( tyres are even MORE important than the bike itself- not wheels, but TYRES) will be far more enjoyable/usable for the regular person..
If you plan to be on TV and want to break speed records- That does not applies to you obviously.

Ignore all of the above.

[gazza285]

bagusbagus said:

If you want Aero - install tribars on ANY BIKE- far better aero than the ''race road'' bikes have also dress more ''tight''
If you want to actually enjoy your ride leisurely have comfort/ease of riding it anywhere and do not do more than 30-50km a day, get that flatbar!

If your enjoyment consists of dressing up in ridiculous outfits, only driving along with cars on road risking getting run over, inhaling all the exhaust fumes, bending your back like a dog about to take a st , having less comfort, not being able to enjoy your surroundings while you drive ultra mega super fast ( maybe 3km/h faster than a standard bike,lol? ) ,not being able to manoeuvre as good etc than stick with the ULTRA-SUPER-COOL Road bike everyone recommends just because it's ''so cool'' and you get bonus point for driving a bike with road bike bars.



I have had over 50 bikes in past year, (when I see something good locally I can flip for double/triple, I get it...)
Obviously I try each for a few days as well..
Having tried all the bling-bling Carbon bikes, all the U1tra Sup3r Hardc0re mega things that comes with them I Still don't understand why People even get the Road bikes.. They are just st to actually ride and enjoy for everyday things.

A Flatbar like that with good tyres ( tyres are even MORE important than the bike itself- not wheels, but TYRES) will be far more enjoyable/usable for the regular person..
If you plan to be on TV and want to break speed records- That does not applies to you obviously.

Yet what? Six weeks ago you were on here asking about what tyres you should get for your carbon bike that you daren't ride, and since then asking which flat bar bike you should buy for £700, you hardly sound like the font of all knowledge to be honest, with fifty bicycles in the past year.

And that is without the claptrap you posted above.

[Your Dad]

gazza285 said:

bagusbagus said:

If you want Aero - install tribars on ANY BIKE- far better aero than the ''race road'' bikes have also dress more ''tight''
If you want to actually enjoy your ride leisurely have comfort/ease of riding it anywhere and do not do more than 30-50km a day, get that flatbar!

If your enjoyment consists of dressing up in ridiculous outfits, only driving along with cars on road risking getting run over, inhaling all the exhaust fumes, bending your back like a dog about to take a st , having less comfort, not being able to enjoy your surroundings while you drive ultra mega super fast ( maybe 3km/h faster than a standard bike,lol? ) ,not being able to manoeuvre as good etc than stick with the ULTRA-SUPER-COOL Road bike everyone recommends just because it's ''so cool'' and you get bonus point for driving a bike with road bike bars.



I have had over 50 bikes in past year, (when I see something good locally I can flip for double/triple, I get it...)
Obviously I try each for a few days as well..
Having tried all the bling-bling Carbon bikes, all the U1tra Sup3r Hardc0re mega things that comes with them I Still don't understand why People even get the Road bikes.. They are just st to actually ride and enjoy for everyday things.

A Flatbar like that with good tyres ( tyres are even MORE important than the bike itself- not wheels, but TYRES) will be far more enjoyable/usable for the regular person..
If you plan to be on TV and want to break speed records- That does not applies to you obviously.

Yet what? Six weeks ago you were on here asking about what tyres you should get for your carbon bike that you daren't ride, and since then asking which flat bar bike you should buy for £700, you hardly sound like the font of all knowledge to be honest, with fifty bicycles in the past year.

And that is without the claptrap you posted above.

I initially thought bagusbagus was Dizeee using a different login, especially as they both post(ed) on here and several popular cycling websites.

[snobetter]

I had/have back issues, including disc surgery. Bike fit and core strength could be important to you.

There is no one fix which works for everyone, I deteriorated from very active to unable to walk very far and fairly regular completely debilitating back pain. Since getting back into cycling I've only had one week of mild back pain in 2 and a half years, and I can cycle all day when I get the chance. I've also lost 2 stones which I'd put on after I had to stop running, football etc. which obviously helps.

So in short it could really help with your back pain.

I started on a hybrid but quickly changed to endurance geometry frame with drops as I started doing more than just commuting, might not suit you but I was advised at the time drops would be better and for me, and they were.

[Ilovejapcrap]

snobetter said:

I had/have back issues, including disc surgery. Bike fit and core strength could be important to you.

There is no one fix which works for everyone, I deteriorated from very active to unable to walk very far and fairly regular completely debilitating back pain. Since getting back into cycling I've only had one week of mild back pain in 2 and a half years, and I can cycle all day when I get the chance. I've also lost 2 stones which I'd put on after I had to stop running, football etc. which obviously helps.

So in short it could really help with your back pain.

I started on a hybrid but quickly changed to endurance geometry frame with drops as I started doing more than just commuting, might not suit you but I was advised at the time drops would be better and for me, and they were.

Thanks

[Sa Calobra]

Back issues etc I'd ditch the road/even the hybrid looking thing above.

Get a 29'er hard tail mountain bike.

However one thing, your back is aching for a reason. Look at this as it's telling you you've got a issue. Disc/muscular etc. Get a Osteopath or deep tissue massage.

[Kell]

Have you had any advice from your doctor/physio?

Before spending money on a new bike it's worth following (some of) the advice above about assessing what the problem with your back actually is.

I was unable to walk properly for around three months about 3 years ago as I had two bulging discs pressing on my sciatic nerve, and at one point I thought I wouldn't be able to walk properly again. I assumed that swimming would be good for me as there's no weight on the body, but was then advised it would one of the worst things I could do as it bows your back the wrong way. Cycling on the other hand, was a good thing to do. (YMMV)

As said, you've assumed that being bent over could be the worst thing for it, when it might be the best.

It might also be the case that a gravel road/adventure type bike would give you enough multiple hand positions to stop your back spasming and have the advantage of fatter tyres for a little more suspension.

[Ilovejapcrap]

Everyone seems a little against this type of bike nd thanks for your views on that.

Quick question tho, why so unpopular

[FredClogs]

Ilovejapcrap said:

Everyone seems a little against this type of bike nd thanks for your views on that.

Quick question tho, why so unpopular

With bendy bars you've got at least 6 positions that you can put your hands which on longer rides can really help relieve and aches and pains and discomfort in back, gooch, shoulders, wrists and hands. Not so on flat bars. The weight has to go somewhere, distributing it around is the key to longevity and comfort.

[Deerfoot]

I used a flat bar bike (Giant Rapid) for a few years covering around 5000 miles. I put bar ends on it to give a different hand position.

It never caused me many problems to be honest. I've now got a conventional drop- bar bike. I upgraded and there were lots more drop bar bikes to choose from, I'd have happily had another flat bar bike.

[bigdom]

Ilovejapcrap said:

Everyone seems a little against this type of bike nd thanks for your views on that.

Quick question tho, why so unpopular

I think it was more what you’re trying to get towards in your first post, there’s a better option. It might be, with a bike fit or looking at what the current setup is - lower/higher saddle height, less reach, riser stem, bar width etc the current bike might work, and alleviate your back issue.

I had a spinal fusion 30yrs ago, and live with a few dodgy discs, and having a bike fit and shoe change enables me to ride 100 plus miles in comfort.

Nothing wrong with a hybrid per se, although adding drop bars then sorting gears/brakes, you might as well buy the adventure/gravel version in the first place as it’s designed as such.