Considering an Everesting attempt

[E65Ross]

Portsdown Hill up past Portchester Station.... From the bottom (by the railway bridge) up to the top of Skew Road.

[E65Ross]

Fletch79 said:

The Max Capacity: 35 tooth (short), 39 tooth (long) (from what i can find, this wasn't from shimano's website (i got bored looking on the shimano site) so take with pinch of salt)

Max Chainring Diff - 52-36=16
Max Cassette Cog Diff - 32-11=21
Total Drive Train Capacity - 16+21=37

So you would need the long cage

That would suggest I'd be fine wothhh a 32t cassette in my current rear derailleur...? There have been a number of people saying the 32t is fine.

RE mech adjustment..... Wikk I need to adjust the low limit or B tension screws? If so, I'm assuming I'd be turning the low limit anticlockwise (ie loosen).... But what about the B tension screw?

Just ordered an 11-32T cassette and 34 inner ring. I'll fit the cassette myself and check it works OK. Then when I get the chance I'll get the bike shop to do the inner ring.... Probably easy enough but I'm not sure so I'll chuck them a tenner and see how it goes. Will check it works OK and then go back to my current set up for a while. I'll then go back to the 34 inner ring and 11-32T cassette a week or 2 before doing it. Although it's tempting to leave the cassette on there as aside the 1st 3 gears it doesn't appear much different really.

Cheers.

[BMWBen]

E65Ross said:

Portsdown Hill up past Portchester Station.... From the bottom (by the railway bridge) up to the top of Skew Road.

I reckon you'll be alright with a 32 up there - the middle section is quite steep but it's still only a moderate spin on a 32. I reckon you'll get quite pissed off with the descent though, I don't think I've ever ridden down there without having to sit on my brakes behind a car! Annoying because you should be able to absolutely send it...

[Gilhooligan]

Fletch79 said:

The shimano website says the 11-32 will also need a new mech - If i have picked the right Model

Shimano tend to be a bit conservative in this regard imo. They state a max of 32t for my derailleur but I’ve got a 34t fitted with no issues. Just needed a bit more adjustment in the B screw. I’d imagine they state the max size of 32 to ensure there are no issues with people crossing chains.

[outnumbered]

BMWBen said:

E65Ross said:

Portsdown Hill up past Portchester Station.... From the bottom (by the railway bridge) up to the top of Skew Road.

I reckon you'll be alright with a 32 up there - the middle section is quite steep but it's still only a moderate spin on a 32. I reckon you'll get quite pissed off with the descent though, I don't think I've ever ridden down there without having to sit on my brakes behind a car! Annoying because you should be able to absolutely send it...

That looks quite busy, aren't you going to spend the whole day with a queue of traffic up your arse ?

[E65Ross]

outnumbered said:

BMWBen said:

E65Ross said:

Portsdown Hill up past Portchester Station.... From the bottom (by the railway bridge) up to the top of Skew Road.

I reckon you'll be alright with a 32 up there - the middle section is quite steep but it's still only a moderate spin on a 32. I reckon you'll get quite pissed off with the descent though, I don't think I've ever ridden down there without having to sit on my brakes behind a car! Annoying because you should be able to absolutely send it...

That looks quite busy, aren't you going to spend the whole day with a queue of traffic up your arse ?

It's not too bad, and it's fairly easy to overtake there.

[Daveyraveygravey]

E65Ross said:

Fortunately the 1 mile hill is 0.3 miles from my house! I'll still drive and park car right at the bottom so I can leave loads of spare food and drinks in there which means I don't need to carry much at all on the bike, this will save doing the extra miles to/from the house. But it does mean if I fancy a slightly longer break I can just nip home (useful for toilet stops!).

Probably a good idea with the car at the bottom. We had to park at the top, which was ok, but it meant getting cold every time you stopped and then descending just added to that.

I swapped my 11/28 for an 11/32 for riding Alpine-like climbs, I got a medium (or maybe long ) cage mech at the same time. I think it was one of those it may work, it may not decisions, but I decided to do it and minimise time without the bike.

Portsdown isn't too far from me, keep us posted and I may try and do a bit of Sherpa-ing...

[So]

E65Ross said:

So said:

Let me know how to sponsor you. I still owe you one, though you may not remember, and I probably won't have another opportunity to return the favour.

I must admit I can't remember! Please remind me

I did a charity ride a few years back, raised WAY more than anticipated (over 16x my target of £500 + gift aid ) but I wanted to do something else and figured of I set up a charity thing it'd kick my backside into doing it!

You diagnosed, or at least helped me to self-diagnose, an inguinal hernia when the GPs had no clue.

[lauda]

E65Ross said:

Portsdown Hill up past Portchester Station.... From the bottom (by the railway bridge) up to the top of Skew Road.

I went up there on Sunday morning as it happens. As others have said, that's not a particularly nice bit of road to be riding up and down so many times. Plenty of traffic and loads of side-roads which mean that you probably need to be a lot more cautious on the descent than you would otherwise.

What about the road up Portsdown Hill from Southwick as an alternative? There's a roundabout at either end for easy turnarounds, you can descend like the clappers without worrying too much about traffic and it's much wider. And at least you've got some views of the countryside on the way up.

Anyhow, good luck with it - you're a braver man than I am!

[E65Ross]

Daveyraveygravey said:

E65Ross said:

Fortunately the 1 mile hill is 0.3 miles from my house! I'll still drive and park car right at the bottom so I can leave loads of spare food and drinks in there which means I don't need to carry much at all on the bike, this will save doing the extra miles to/from the house. But it does mean if I fancy a slightly longer break I can just nip home (useful for toilet stops!).

Probably a good idea with the car at the bottom. We had to park at the top, which was ok, but it meant getting cold every time you stopped and then descending just added to that.

I swapped my 11/28 for an 11/32 for riding Alpine-like climbs, I got a medium (or maybe long ) cage mech at the same time. I think it was one of those it may work, it may not decisions, but I decided to do it and minimise time without the bike.

Portsdown isn't too far from me, keep us posted and I may try and do a bit of Sherpa-ing...

So said:

E65Ross said:

So said:

Let me know how to sponsor you. I still owe you one, though you may not remember, and I probably won't have another opportunity to return the favour.

I must admit I can't remember! Please remind me

I did a charity ride a few years back, raised WAY more than anticipated (over 16x my target of £500 + gift aid ) but I wanted to do something else and figured of I set up a charity thing it'd kick my backside into doing it!

You diagnosed, or at least helped me to self-diagnose, an inguinal hernia when the GPs had no clue.

Ah cool, hope you're alright now!!

[E65Ross]

lauda said:

E65Ross said:

Portsdown Hill up past Portchester Station.... From the bottom (by the railway bridge) up to the top of Skew Road.

I went up there on Sunday morning as it happens. As others have said, that's not a particularly nice bit of road to be riding up and down so many times. Plenty of traffic and loads of side-roads which mean that you probably need to be a lot more cautious on the descent than you would otherwise.

What about the road up Portsdown Hill from Southwick as an alternative? There's a roundabout at either end for easy turnarounds, you can descend like the clappers without worrying too much about traffic and it's much wider. And at least you've got some views of the countryside on the way up.

Anyhow, good luck with it - you're a braver man than I am!

I think the problem with that road is that it's flatter, then gets steeper, and from roundabout to roundabout would be ridiculous mileage....over 300 miles! The Portsdown Hill up Skew Road is pretty perfect for gradient to be honest. Not sure of any others nearby that would be suitable. There are a fair few others but they're often too steep in sections, ideally I don't want anything over 10% as I'd likely be needing to go over threshold for that.

I understand what you're saying about traffic....I guess I could try doing 30-40 reps up it so once some fatigue kicks in I can judge how I'd feel. Monument Lane wouldn't be bad but it's a bit short, I'd need to do it 164 times!

This one is more like it distance-wise

https://www.strava.com/segments/3508009

Although has sections of 11+% so may be a bit steep? I think I need to get the gearing put on there and do a trial run.

[lauda]

E65Ross said:

I think the problem with that road is that it's flatter, then gets steeper, and from roundabout to roundabout would be ridiculous mileage....over 300 miles! The Portsdown Hill up Skew Road is pretty perfect for gradient to be honest. Not sure of any others nearby that would be suitable. There are a fair few others but they're often too steep in sections, ideally I don't want anything over 10% as I'd likely be needing to go over threshold for that.

I understand what you're saying about traffic....I guess I could try doing 30-40 reps up it so once some fatigue kicks in I can judge how I'd feel. Monument Lane wouldn't be bad but it's a bit short, I'd need to do it 164 times!

This one is more like it distance-wise

https://www.strava.com/segments/3508009

Although has sections of 11+% so may be a bit steep? I think I need to get the gearing put on there and do a trial run.

It is quite tricky to find a decent hill near us for Everesting. I've not ridden the exact segment that you've linked but there's another one that's more or less parallel and it's not easy. Perhaps just book a flight somewhere warm and sunny with a mountain with a nice consistent gradient and have a holiday whilst you're there?!

I reckon Teide in Tenerife would be perfect!

[GOATever]

South Harting has a cracking climb for Everesting.

[Kawasicki]

HardtopManual said:

It depends on your fitness. A 7% climb with ramps under 10% should be eminently doable on 36x30 if you train for the attempt.

Don't overthink it. I did 6200m (4 times up Ventoux) in one day. I had bike with compact chainring 50-34 and 11-32 at the back....I didn't use the 32 at all. I only used the 28 a few times, where there were steepish ramps, over 10%. You are lighter than me, I'm 64kg, and you are probably more trained/naturally gifted than me, my ftp is just over 4w/kg. At the end of the day at Ventoux I felt pretty fresh, which was a surprise to me as my nutrition plan was non existent. I could fairly easily have climbed it another time, and with a bit of a push twice more. So...in my opinion the biggest challenge for you is mental and the risk of bad weather.

From 5 of us that started in the morning with the plan to climb 3 times...here were the results.

3 did it twice (they thought the high winds at the top was too dangerous)
1 did it 3 times
1 did it 4 times (me)

I'll do an Everest next year...I'm not dreading it at all. A couple of mates have done it. They are both fitter than me...both said that the challenge is a mental one. They recommended 6-8% inclines and starting very early, at 2am (!)...so they could break the day up with the sunrise in the middle. They are German though...











I also recommend doing in on a bike with rim brakes...as it will make the event easier!

[E65Ross]

GOATever said:

South Harting has a cracking climb for Everesting.

The steeper part is, in my opinion, too steep for an Everesting, as it pitches around 17% I think! Ideally don't want to go over 10% if I can avoid it. I think Portchester Lane may be the best option for a local climb.

This one here, although it's a bit flat at the bottom, but pitches to around 11%

https://www.strava.com/segments/3508009

There is a 1/3 mile section averaging 10.4% so not sure if that's a bit much...?

Kawasicki said:

I also recommend doing in on a bike with rim brakes...as it will make the event easier!

[BMWBen]

E65Ross said:

lauda said:

E65Ross said:

Portsdown Hill up past Portchester Station.... From the bottom (by the railway bridge) up to the top of Skew Road.

I went up there on Sunday morning as it happens. As others have said, that's not a particularly nice bit of road to be riding up and down so many times. Plenty of traffic and loads of side-roads which mean that you probably need to be a lot more cautious on the descent than you would otherwise.

What about the road up Portsdown Hill from Southwick as an alternative? There's a roundabout at either end for easy turnarounds, you can descend like the clappers without worrying too much about traffic and it's much wider. And at least you've got some views of the countryside on the way up.

Anyhow, good luck with it - you're a braver man than I am!

I think the problem with that road is that it's flatter, then gets steeper, and from roundabout to roundabout would be ridiculous mileage....over 300 miles! The Portsdown Hill up Skew Road is pretty perfect for gradient to be honest. Not sure of any others nearby that would be suitable. There are a fair few others but they're often too steep in sections, ideally I don't want anything over 10% as I'd likely be needing to go over threshold for that.

I understand what you're saying about traffic....I guess I could try doing 30-40 reps up it so once some fatigue kicks in I can judge how I'd feel. Monument Lane wouldn't be bad but it's a bit short, I'd need to do it 164 times!

This one is more like it distance-wise

https://www.strava.com/segments/3508009

Although has sections of 11+% so may be a bit steep? I think I need to get the gearing put on there and do a trial run.

Yeah half of the southwick road hardly goes up at all, so you'd be wasting a lot of distance for sure. How about the road up from QA hospital? Or nine elms lane over on the west side if you were after a quieter one?

[Dannbodge]

I often thought about trying everesting up the Southwick hill road (Past the hospital) but the descent would be a bit tricky.
London Road would be alright going up from the cosham roundabout. Nice and easy to spin round and then just use the roundabout at the bottom or even Downend road on the other side of the portsdown.

If you do it, let us know. I'd happily come and ride a few reps with you for motivation!

Edited by Dannbodge on Monday 12th November 16:13

[E65Ross]

Dannbodge said:

I often thought about trying everesting up the Southwick hill road (Past the hospital) but the descent would be a bit tricky.
London Road would be alright going up from the cosham roundabout. Nice and easy to spin round and then just use the roundabout at the bottom or even Downend road on the other side of the portsdown.

If you do it, let us know. I'd happily come and ride a few reps with you for motivation!

Edited by Dannbodge on Monday 12th November 16:13

Where exactly do you mean? I don't venture that side of the hill much....but I know the Cosham Roundabout. The Hill has to be a Strava segment, and the route up and has to be the exact same as the route down.

The hill up past QA may be a good option......any other thoughts on this one?

https://www.strava.com/segments/935024

Thank you! I'll definitely bear that in mind!

Edited by E65Ross on Monday 12th November 17:01

[moonigan]

32T Cassette will work fine with normal Ultegra rear mech with either 50/34 or 52/36 but you will have problems if you try and change into big/big with either combo. The 34t cassette requires the new long cage Ultegra rear mech.

[Dannbodge]

E65Ross said:

Where exactly do you mean? I don't venture that side of the hill much....but I know the Cosham Roundabout. The Hill has to be a Strava segment, and the route up and has to be the exact same as the route down.

The hill up past QA may be a good option......any other thoughts on this one?

https://www.strava.com/segments/935024

Thank you! I'll definitely bear that in mind!

Edited by E65Ross on Monday 12th November 17:01

Southwick hill road is quite a nice hill, bar the lights at the bottom.
Plus it has a pavement so when you are knackered you can always ride on that.

This one is London road:
https://www.strava.com/segments/7568919

Might struggle with the same route up and down though.

or Down end Road:
https://www.strava.com/segments/2420315