Giant Defy Composite 2 - 2014

[Sa Calobra]

In as new condition? ..and a quick look shows people are bidding on so it'll end up over 500...

[Steve vRS]

Daveyraveygravey said:

A very quick look on Ebay shows a medium Defy 2 from 2014 hardly ridden £370 with 2 days of the auction left.
And another, similar spec for £112...

A defy 2 will be a aluminium frame with Sora or tiagra.

[Gareth79]

Steve vRS said:

Daveyraveygravey said:

A very quick look on Ebay shows a medium Defy 2 from 2014 hardly ridden £370 with 2 days of the auction left.
And another, similar spec for £112...

A defy 2 will be a aluminium frame with Sora or tiagra.

Yup, the aluminium Defy has been renamed/replaced by the "Contend" models, presumably to avoid the confusion between them.

[Daveyraveygravey]

Yes, the 370 is a composite, the 115 ally and Tiagra. I did say it was a quick look... They are both 2014 Defy models.

[Gareth79]

Oh yes, as the OP does say, do ensure it's the right fit - really no point getting it if you are outside these ranges:
(NB: M/L is an actual size they make, it's not saying medium or large will fit)

https://giantcdn-qu2qwwv2de7wv85rz.stackpathdns.co...

[Sa Calobra]

Daveyraveygravey said:

Yes, the 370 is a composite, the 115 ally and Tiagra. I did say it was a quick look... They are both 2014 Defy models.

370 is the final price?

[keith2.2]

If it's 4 years old I'd budget for new tyres and inner tubes

[JackReacher]

Thanks all, going to look at it this weekend. It's a medium, and at 5'8 it should just about fit. I agree I think new tyres and inner tubes will be needed.

[Zippee]

JackReacher said:

Thanks all, going to look at it this weekend. It's a medium, and at 5'8 it should just about fit. I agree I think new tyres and inner tubes will be needed.

I'm not convinced. If it's barely been ridden then as long as it's been stored well they should be fine. I'm running original tyres on several 90s mtbs and my old allez is still on original with zero issues. Budget for them yes, but don't assume they def need doing.

[Daveyraveygravey]

Sa Calobra said:

370 is the final price?

It went for 430...
The ally one for 175.

[Sa Calobra]

Awesome so that makes 500 the right price for a very little used one then.

[Daveyraveygravey]

Sa Calobra said:

Awesome so that makes 500 the right price for a very little used one then.

Well, if you think 70 quid is nothing. Never mind over 300...

[Zippee]

Daveyraveygravey said:

Sa Calobra said:

Awesome so that makes 500 the right price for a very little used one then.

Well, if you think 70 quid is nothing. Never mind over 300...

Where are you getting over 300 from? The one that went for 175 is ally and not a patch on a carbon frame.

[Daveyraveygravey]

Zippee said:

Where are you getting over 300 from? The one that went for 175 is ally and not a patch on a carbon frame.

That will be where I got the over 300 quid from!? 🙄 Not everyone can go out and drop several grand on a bike. And the ally plus Tiagra version will do EXACTLY the same job as the fancy carbon jobby. And on top of that, if you ride an older clunkier bike, you will get fitter.

[Sa Calobra]

I used to say that. Then a mate lent me some seriously expensive lightweight wheels and tyres on my st PlanetX.

It made it a whole lot better.

Then I bought a decent bike and it was night and day.

[keith2.2]

Daveyraveygravey said:

That will be where I got the over 300 quid from!? ?? Not everyone can go out and drop several grand on a bike. And the ally plus Tiagra version will do EXACTLY the same job as the fancy carbon jobby. And on top of that, if you ride an older clunkier bike, you will get fitter.

The first point is like saying a Dacia Duster does exactly the same job as a 911 GT2 - okay fine it does in top line terms but it just doesn't.

I'd also argue that whilst a bike can potentially be too good for the rider (particualry in terms of handling) - suggesting an old (I assume therefore you mean heavier) bike will make a person fitter just isn't true.

1) Enjoy what you ride and you'll be inclined to ride it more frequently and further.
2) A heavier bike won't make a rider fitter. The rider has an amount of effort - that effort gets expended on both bikes - the lighter one will be faster for a given effort. And even then, only up hill. (relating to effort rather than braking / turning etc when heading down again).

[Daveyraveygravey]

keith2.2 said:

The first point is like saying a Dacia Duster does exactly the same job as a 911 GT2 - okay fine it does in top line terms but it just doesn't.

None of the bikes in this discussion are 911 GT2 level bikes. From the original post, I didn't think the seller was being generous with his pricing, and the OP may not get £150 for his bike either. So, to me, it didn't seem like a good deal in terms of money, and I question if the carbon version of the bike is "night and day" better than what the OP already has. If he could get the carbon version for £300 that would make it a better deal.

Maybe I am just insensitive and my butt/hands/feet don't pick up on these differences in spec.

[bakerstreet]

keith2.2 said:

1) Enjoy what you ride and you'll be inclined to ride it more frequently and further.
2) A heavier bike won't make a rider fitter. The rider has an amount of effort - that effort gets expended on both bikes - the lighter one will be faster for a given effort. And even then, only up hill. (relating to effort rather than braking / turning etc when heading down again).

Agreed. In my mind you have to go and want to ride a bike (Unless you commute) and if a nicer bike helps with that, then crack on. I have a 2010 Ali frame Defy and I remember jumping on my mates 2013 Giant TCR Advanced. It was like night and day compared to my bike.

Reading through some of this thread, it does highlight the challenges in buying a used bike and kinda why its not something I always recommend.

I'm still not 100% happy with my Fuji Transonic. Think I will keep it for another two and a bit years and do a custom build using a frame from the far east as a basis for carbon aero disc build. Struggling with my direct mount caliper brakes and discs look like the right way to go.