Old School 1980's BMX's
Discussion
So, until more original Hutch parts surface, i'm undecided on a few items
Currently im thinking:
White Skyway wheels & Comp 3 tyres
Profile Spider & Chainring
Sealed BB
Hutch bars
Haro 1984 chrome forks (in the absence of any Hutch items)
Silver seatclamp?
Silver MX1000 brakes
Kashimax seat in black
Hutch grips in black
Hutch race plate
Tange MX2 headset
Hutch chrome pads
or should I go for gold brakes / levers / seatclamp as further down the line I think gold anodised spoked wheels would look good
Currently im thinking:
White Skyway wheels & Comp 3 tyres
Profile Spider & Chainring
Sealed BB
Hutch bars
Haro 1984 chrome forks (in the absence of any Hutch items)
Silver seatclamp?
Silver MX1000 brakes
Kashimax seat in black
Hutch grips in black
Hutch race plate
Tange MX2 headset
Hutch chrome pads
or should I go for gold brakes / levers / seatclamp as further down the line I think gold anodised spoked wheels would look good
Wibble.
Sorry to add to your mortgage, but you've missed £350 of cranks (Redline Flights?) and £300 of pedals (Hutch Bear Trap?) from your list...
Are you going original alloy hub Tuffs ( have you just bought this set with the comp 3s on ebay?) or the repros?
Sorry to add to your mortgage, but you've missed £350 of cranks (Redline Flights?) and £300 of pedals (Hutch Bear Trap?) from your list...
Are you going original alloy hub Tuffs ( have you just bought this set with the comp 3s on ebay?) or the repros?
ben5575 said:
Wibble.
Sorry to add to your mortgage, but you've missed £350 of cranks (Redline Flights?) and £300 of pedals (Hutch Bear Trap?) from your list...
Are you going original alloy hub Tuffs ( have you just bought this set with the comp 3s on ebay?) or the repros?
Alans BMX - so not original alloy hubs. Hutch bear trap pedals will come front the states. With ref to cranks, I've gone for a sealed BB and one piece crank. How would have this been done in 82? Would Redline Flights or similar been available then.Sorry to add to your mortgage, but you've missed £350 of cranks (Redline Flights?) and £300 of pedals (Hutch Bear Trap?) from your list...
Are you going original alloy hub Tuffs ( have you just bought this set with the comp 3s on ebay?) or the repros?
Again, the first thing is to get this thing rolling and then I can look at the finer detail
Steep learning curve :-)
Out of interest (i'm thinking you're the Oracle of 80's BMX :-)) - how would you spec it?
Am I right in thinking that the Expert Racer was only available as a frame purchase only in 82? and people would have built it to preference?
Edited by Candellara on Saturday 8th June 18:57
Info on Flights: https://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/info/151/
I'm by no means an expert on Hutch or bikes from the early eighties (more late 80s, into the 90s), so take everything I say with a large pinch of salt!
I don't know if you followed any of the forum links I posted previously, but this would be a good place to start. Posters normally list out the specs when they post their bikes. It'll give you some inspiration for the build as well: https://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/hutch/
I developed a cold sweat visiting that site again though. I'm like a returning junkie, all the old acronyms and insane geekery started to flood back!
Edited to say that I've just spotted your edit...
Looks like there are some serious riders on here who'll be able to give you a better steer on how they used to be built. I only ever played at riding but enjoyed being back out on track.
The hardest part is figuring out whether your complete build is going to be 100% authentic to the far end of a fart. For a lot of people this is really a thing and I can see the enjoyment of the challenge. But by the same token, if you're totally committed to it, they'll always be something not quite right which will only annoy you.
Plus if you had one as a kid in '82 you'd be fixing all sorts of stuff to it to customise it as you grew up, so why not have a '84 set of whatevers on it?
I'm by no means an expert on Hutch or bikes from the early eighties (more late 80s, into the 90s), so take everything I say with a large pinch of salt!
I don't know if you followed any of the forum links I posted previously, but this would be a good place to start. Posters normally list out the specs when they post their bikes. It'll give you some inspiration for the build as well: https://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/hutch/
I developed a cold sweat visiting that site again though. I'm like a returning junkie, all the old acronyms and insane geekery started to flood back!
Edited to say that I've just spotted your edit...
Looks like there are some serious riders on here who'll be able to give you a better steer on how they used to be built. I only ever played at riding but enjoyed being back out on track.
The hardest part is figuring out whether your complete build is going to be 100% authentic to the far end of a fart. For a lot of people this is really a thing and I can see the enjoyment of the challenge. But by the same token, if you're totally committed to it, they'll always be something not quite right which will only annoy you.
Plus if you had one as a kid in '82 you'd be fixing all sorts of stuff to it to customise it as you grew up, so why not have a '84 set of whatevers on it?
Edited by ben5575 on Saturday 8th June 19:21
Initial inspiration is to get something along the lines of this:
Something not to be too precious about and as said, can add Hutch parts as I find them and swap parts out onto another build.
One thing i'm learning is that original parts are HUGELY expensive
Something not to be too precious about and as said, can add Hutch parts as I find them and swap parts out onto another build.
One thing i'm learning is that original parts are HUGELY expensive
Edited by Candellara on Saturday 8th June 19:11
ben5575 said:
Well you did pick Hutch which is the hugest of the hugely expensive...! 
Just build the bike you want to build/ride/look at the end of the day. It's your bike after all
With the exception being Kuwahara? The Kuwahara frames alone seem to be £700 to £800 for a KZ1 and most of the parts unobtainableJust build the bike you want to build/ride/look at the end of the day. It's your bike after all
Saw a Redline survivor for sale this week - £7000!!!!
I'm starting to learn what I've got into :-)
I wish I hadn't stumbled across this thread...
Back in the day I had a series of BMX's and was obsessed with everything BMX, started with your typical Puch Murray BMX, blue with yellow mags, weighed a tonne, upgraded to a Raleigh Aero-Pro Burner, which evolved as I became more freestyle driven, white Tuff 2's with coaster brake, Skyway platform (remember those). And eventually what I would class now as my forever bike.. Hutch Trickstar (Baby pink), white Tuff 3's coaster brake, ACS rotor!!, Tuffneck stem, usual diacompe brakes, kashimax aero seat, even has some space bars (no idea what happened to them).
I built my own quarter pipe and entered a few local comps, ended up busting both legs one after the other.
My Hutch eventually went into my parents loft and a few years ago when they passed away I cleared the house out, and eventually got to the loft.... but the old bugger must have slung everything!!! I was gutted, I still am!
I keep looking, a friend of mine builds the odd old skool BMX and he put a white Trickstar build up for sale, £2700 to me, passed on it which I regret now.
I keep looking, always fancied to build another Hutch, but always had a thing for the GT Performer... yes Eddie Fiola inspired! There was a local meet over the last bank holiday near me which I just happened to drive by and saw lots of old skool bikes, but didn't have time to stop unfortunately.
Eddie Fiola etc posts quite a bit on Instagram and still rides BTW, I also keep drooling over Alan's BMX site and it's not too far from me so I know I'll drop in at some point, I've had a few conversations with him, looks like I bought my Hutch from him back in the 80's... small world.
Back in the day I had a series of BMX's and was obsessed with everything BMX, started with your typical Puch Murray BMX, blue with yellow mags, weighed a tonne, upgraded to a Raleigh Aero-Pro Burner, which evolved as I became more freestyle driven, white Tuff 2's with coaster brake, Skyway platform (remember those). And eventually what I would class now as my forever bike.. Hutch Trickstar (Baby pink), white Tuff 3's coaster brake, ACS rotor!!, Tuffneck stem, usual diacompe brakes, kashimax aero seat, even has some space bars (no idea what happened to them).
I built my own quarter pipe and entered a few local comps, ended up busting both legs one after the other.
My Hutch eventually went into my parents loft and a few years ago when they passed away I cleared the house out, and eventually got to the loft.... but the old bugger must have slung everything!!! I was gutted, I still am!
I keep looking, a friend of mine builds the odd old skool BMX and he put a white Trickstar build up for sale, £2700 to me, passed on it which I regret now.
I keep looking, always fancied to build another Hutch, but always had a thing for the GT Performer... yes Eddie Fiola inspired! There was a local meet over the last bank holiday near me which I just happened to drive by and saw lots of old skool bikes, but didn't have time to stop unfortunately.
Eddie Fiola etc posts quite a bit on Instagram and still rides BTW, I also keep drooling over Alan's BMX site and it's not too far from me so I know I'll drop in at some point, I've had a few conversations with him, looks like I bought my Hutch from him back in the 80's... small world.
Build is slowly coming along
Tange headset & forks in. Seatpost & clamp in
Had to file the rear drop outs very slightly to get the rear wheel / axle in. Shortened front axle with flats for the front wheel arriving tomorrow.
Hopefully get the Tange bottom bracket installed tomorrow.
There's a few marks on the frame but really quite minor for a 37 year old frame.
Tange headset & forks in. Seatpost & clamp in
Had to file the rear drop outs very slightly to get the rear wheel / axle in. Shortened front axle with flats for the front wheel arriving tomorrow.
Hopefully get the Tange bottom bracket installed tomorrow.
There's a few marks on the frame but really quite minor for a 37 year old frame.
I had a Raleigh Mag Burner back in the day, used to race at Birmingham Wheels, great track but I was hampered by being a bit of a puny kid racing against bigger kids on much lighter tackle.
BMX was massive in Brum when I was a kid in the 80’s. Stetchford Cycles was the place to go, run by the Turnbull family, who made a small fortune out of it IIRC. They did the TRM Freestyler which was very innovative for the time with a partial double top tube.
About 10yrs ago I got in pissed from the pub and starting surfing eBay for BMXs, ended the night buying a rerelease PK Ripper, the bike I always wanted as a kid. It’s on Araya alloys but I’ve since picked up a set of brand new black Skyways for it. I’d not even met my wife at the time, now we have a 4yo son. He’s no idea how cool the bike I have hanging up for him in the garage is!
So many great brands back in the day: Redline, Diamond Back, Kuwahara, GT, Haro, SE Racing, mongoose, all great stuff.
A lot of the legendary BMX-ers from that era are very active on Facebook. I’m ‘friends’ with Eddie Fiola, Stu Thompsen, Perry Kramer - they are all still closely connected to BMX and open to friend requests. Sadly Bob Haro is ‘full’. I used to be friends with Scot Breithaupt of SE Racing but he died in tragic circumstances (substance abuse) a couple of years ago, there was a genuine sadness in the BMX community about it. Despite his successes he sadly ended up living rough in a tent :-(
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scot_Breithaupt
The 80’s were great days for BMX, I remember them fondly. I’m nearly 47, have had a heart attack, but I can still pop wheelies, endos, bunny hops and kick turns with the best of them. It’s a long time since I’ve done a cross up or a table top but I’m pretty sure I’d still nail it!
BMX was massive in Brum when I was a kid in the 80’s. Stetchford Cycles was the place to go, run by the Turnbull family, who made a small fortune out of it IIRC. They did the TRM Freestyler which was very innovative for the time with a partial double top tube.
About 10yrs ago I got in pissed from the pub and starting surfing eBay for BMXs, ended the night buying a rerelease PK Ripper, the bike I always wanted as a kid. It’s on Araya alloys but I’ve since picked up a set of brand new black Skyways for it. I’d not even met my wife at the time, now we have a 4yo son. He’s no idea how cool the bike I have hanging up for him in the garage is!
So many great brands back in the day: Redline, Diamond Back, Kuwahara, GT, Haro, SE Racing, mongoose, all great stuff.
A lot of the legendary BMX-ers from that era are very active on Facebook. I’m ‘friends’ with Eddie Fiola, Stu Thompsen, Perry Kramer - they are all still closely connected to BMX and open to friend requests. Sadly Bob Haro is ‘full’. I used to be friends with Scot Breithaupt of SE Racing but he died in tragic circumstances (substance abuse) a couple of years ago, there was a genuine sadness in the BMX community about it. Despite his successes he sadly ended up living rough in a tent :-(
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scot_Breithaupt
The 80’s were great days for BMX, I remember them fondly. I’m nearly 47, have had a heart attack, but I can still pop wheelies, endos, bunny hops and kick turns with the best of them. It’s a long time since I’ve done a cross up or a table top but I’m pretty sure I’d still nail it!
Edited by PurpleTurtle on Saturday 15th June 00:32
Candellara said:
Initial inspiration is to get something along the lines of this:
Something not to be too precious about and as said, can add Hutch parts as I find them and swap parts out onto another build.
One thing i'm learning is that original parts are HUGELY expensive
Skyway tuffs from 82 would have had a metal hub rather then moulder plastic. I had a pair of white tuffs that I bought in 83 and they still had metal hubs at that point.Something not to be too precious about and as said, can add Hutch parts as I find them and swap parts out onto another build.
One thing i'm learning is that original parts are HUGELY expensive
Edited by Candellara on Saturday 8th June 19:11
Around that time most people seemed to use CW bars as well.
jules_s said:
Looking good
Must be re-chromed I guess?
Hutch were absolutely notorious for failing chrome way back then - especially the rear drop outs where filed, headset and bottom bracket bearing sleeves etc
I'm guessing so at some point in it's 37 year life. It's not perfect but it's too good not to have been unless it's been barely used and stored indoors. Must be re-chromed I guess?
Hutch were absolutely notorious for failing chrome way back then - especially the rear drop outs where filed, headset and bottom bracket bearing sleeves etc
The detail of the welds are very visible though and normally with rechroming this fills them up?
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