Gravel Bikes - what exactly are you supposed to do with one?

Gravel Bikes - what exactly are you supposed to do with one?

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ThisInJapanese

10,921 posts

226 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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yonex said:
My Bokeh goes anywhere. You can ride on the road and still get on with it and then just hop onto a bridleway etc. The comfort with 35c tyres is on a different level and with 1x and mtb mech it’s silent and bomb proof. About to fit hope calipers to complete it.

The geometry is good for long rides, allot frame takes a lot of abuse and it’ll go with cx, trails, road and everything.
I'd love a Bokeh, especially the Ti version.

Mr Ted

251 posts

107 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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I have been running Pirelli Cinturato Gravel H in 35mm for a couple of weeks now and, looking at my stats, on the road my average speeds and average powers are pretty much the same compared to when I was running Schwalbe Pro Ones (28mm) .

On hard pack trails they feel planted and work well in mud given that they have pretty flat knobblies! There is a hint of road noise but nothing compared to the Panaracer Gravel Kings I tried that were noisy and hard work on the road.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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Barchettaman said:
In fact, inspired by this thread, I’m going to convert my old commuter bike (currently with a mate who isn’t using it) into a gravel slag.

Started like this:



Currently like this:

You'd be amazed what you can build from an old MTB biggrin Not to everyone's taste but I love it..


fathomfive

9,918 posts

190 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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WinstonWolf said:
Barchettaman said:
In fact, inspired by this thread, I’m going to convert my old commuter bike (currently with a mate who isn’t using it) into a gravel slag.

Started like this:



Currently like this:

You'd be amazed what you can build from an old MTB biggrin Not to everyone's taste but I love it..

I like that!

Gives me an idea or two for my 1990 Courier Comp.

Mr Ted

251 posts

107 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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fathomfive said:
WinstonWolf said:
Barchettaman said:
In fact, inspired by this thread, I’m going to convert my old commuter bike (currently with a mate who isn’t using it) into a gravel slag.

Started like this:



Currently like this:

You'd be amazed what you can build from an old MTB biggrin Not to everyone's taste but I love it..

I like that!

Gives me an idea or two for my 1990 Courier Comp.
Actually old school MTBs are a good starting point as they usually have longer top tubes to run shortish stems and flat bars, if you are serious about it then stick to flat bars, I know racing drops look cool but ,unless you are racing cyclocross, flats are much better as you have much better control when things get interesting!

Likewise the forks, there's a good reason MTB forks are generally 5cm offset, stability, road forks with 4 or 4.5cm offset are fine for fast right angle bends if you are racing a town centre crit but not ideal for a fast gravelly descent, you also need to make sure that your toes don't strike the front wheel! Also a fork with higher axle to crown dimension will be more stable as it slackens the head angle, think Motocross M/C !

I swapped the 4.5cm offset fork on my State Thunderbird for a 5cm offset Genesis fork that was also a bit taller and it transformed the bike from being twitchy to super stable and eliminated the toe strike.

A properly sorted gravel bike on the right tyres gives nothing away to a road bike but does open up all sorts of adventure possibilities, we are lucky to have a good network of trails, byways and bridleways, get on your bike and ride them and don't forget to pack your sense of humour cos you will need it at some point!!

Barchettaman

6,309 posts

132 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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WinstonWolf said:
You'd be amazed what you can build from an old MTB biggrin Not to everyone's taste but I love it..

Your pub bike is on 26” wheels though, isn’t it?

Mine is on standard 700c. It was a cheap steel Focus hybrid originally that I found in a hedge.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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Barchettaman said:
WinstonWolf said:
You'd be amazed what you can build from an old MTB biggrin Not to everyone's taste but I love it..

Your pub bike is on 26” wheels though, isn’t it?

Mine is on standard 700c. It was a cheap steel Focus hybrid originally that I found in a hedge.
It is, it had been sat in the garden for over a decade. Couldn't believe how well it polished up smile

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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WinstonWolf said:
You'd be amazed what you can build from an old MTB biggrin Not to everyone's taste but I love it..

That’s very cool.

FRG0

453 posts

158 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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In reply to the thread title - I don’t know but I’ve been caught by the bug and have been to Planet X today to pick up a Space Chicken.


Tall_Paul

1,915 posts

227 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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FRG0 said:
In reply to the thread title - I don’t know but I’ve been caught by the bug and have been to Planet X today to pick up a Space Chicken.
Good work, probably the best value gravel bike out there.

I was running 650b WTB byway tyres on mine, 47mm - have just taken them off and put on a set of WTB sendero 650b 47mm tyres, knobblies for the win.

Kingdom (makers of titanium bike porn) are re-working their Beam Cyclocross frame to be more... gravel. Want.

https://www.facebook.com/kingdombike/posts/3817519...


Edited by Tall_Paul on Friday 6th December 23:22

FRG0

453 posts

158 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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Tall_Paul said:
Good work, probably the best valye gravel bike out there.

I was running 650b WTB byway tyres on mine, 47mm - have just taken them off and put on a set of WTB sendero 650b 47mm tyres, knobblies for the win.

Kingdom (makers of titanium bike porn) are re-working their Beam Cyclocross frame to be more... gravel. Want.

https://www.facebook.com/kingdombike/posts/3817519...
I had planned to buy a 650b but they had a 700c with Force 1 for £1350 in the clearance section. I’ll see how I get on with it for now and maybe get a 650b wheelset later on.

Tall_Paul

1,915 posts

227 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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FRG0 said:
I had planned to buy a 650b but they had a 700c with Force 1 for £1350 in the clearance section. I’ll see how I get on with it for now and maybe get a 650b wheelset later on.
That's a great price, I paid £1400 for mine with force 1 which was very cheap.

Bring on the winter mud!



fathomfive

9,918 posts

190 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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Mr Ted said:
fathomfive said:
WinstonWolf said:
Barchettaman said:
In fact, inspired by this thread, I’m going to convert my old commuter bike (currently with a mate who isn’t using it) into a gravel slag.

Started like this:



Currently like this:

You'd be amazed what you can build from an old MTB biggrin Not to everyone's taste but I love it..

I like that!

Gives me an idea or two for my 1990 Courier Comp.
Actually old school MTBs are a good starting point as they usually have longer top tubes to run shortish stems and flat bars, if you are serious about it then stick to flat bars, I know racing drops look cool but ,unless you are racing cyclocross, flats are much better as you have much better control when things get interesting!

Likewise the forks, there's a good reason MTB forks are generally 5cm offset, stability, road forks with 4 or 4.5cm offset are fine for fast right angle bends if you are racing a town centre crit but not ideal for a fast gravelly descent, you also need to make sure that your toes don't strike the front wheel! Also a fork with higher axle to crown dimension will be more stable as it slackens the head angle, think Motocross M/C !

I swapped the 4.5cm offset fork on my State Thunderbird for a 5cm offset Genesis fork that was also a bit taller and it transformed the bike from being twitchy to super stable and eliminated the toe strike.

A properly sorted gravel bike on the right tyres gives nothing away to a road bike but does open up all sorts of adventure possibilities, we are lucky to have a good network of trails, byways and bridleways, get on your bike and ride them and don't forget to pack your sense of humour cos you will need it at some point!!
I've had the Courier from new. Loathe to part with it for sentimental reasons but it needs stripping back and rebuilding. This is the sort of project I can put some thought and time into.

I've always found having a MTB and a sense of humour to be essential partners.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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Quite tempted to buy one for local towpaths etc
Kona Libre has caught my eye, always had a soft spot for Kona
My company cyclescheme has been upped to 3K, so i’ll save £1400, man maths at their best ..

Evanivitch

20,078 posts

122 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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Jimboka said:
Quite tempted to buy one for local towpaths etc
Kona Libre has caught my eye, always had a soft spot for Kona
My company cyclescheme has been upped to 3K, so i’ll save £1400, man maths at their best ..
I think we can thank e-bikes for that nice hike...

lufbramatt

5,345 posts

134 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Well found out at the weekend that my dad, 64, intent on spending my inheritance ( ;-) ) has ordered an Orange X9. can't wait to have a go when it arrives. Got a 40mm travel "gravel specific" version of a Fox 32 stepcast fork on it. Blurs the lines even more between gravel and a hardtail MTB.

ThisInJapanese

10,921 posts

226 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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lufbramatt said:
Well found out at the weekend that my dad, 64, intent on spending my inheritance ( ;-) ) has ordered an Orange X9. can't wait to have a go when it arrives. Got a 40mm travel "gravel specific" version of a Fox 32 stepcast fork on it. Blurs the lines even more between gravel and a hardtail MTB.
Just looked it up: https://www.orangebikes.co.uk/bikes/x9-pro/2020

Looks interesting, like a Slate, but without the Slate issues (wheel clearance, cost of fork etc etc)

yellowjack

17,078 posts

166 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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ThisInJapanese said:
lufbramatt said:
Well found out at the weekend that my dad, 64, intent on spending my inheritance ( ;-) ) has ordered an Orange X9. can't wait to have a go when it arrives. Got a 40mm travel "gravel specific" version of a Fox 32 stepcast fork on it. Blurs the lines even more between gravel and a hardtail MTB.
Just looked it up: https://www.orangebikes.co.uk/bikes/x9-pro/2020

Looks interesting, like a Slate, but without the Slate issues (wheel clearance, cost of fork etc etc)
Ooh! I like that. But prices "from £2,300" don't fill me with hope of ever having one. And so it's back to my £53 ebay bargain Cannondale Backroads once again. It's just had a new headset bearing fitted (1,900 miles in my ownership, and probably the first time it's been done since it was built in the USA in the late '90s/early 00s) by The Forge Cycleworks in Ringwood, so very much in need of a test-ride today...

wavey

lufbramatt

5,345 posts

134 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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yellowjack said:
ThisInJapanese said:
lufbramatt said:
Well found out at the weekend that my dad, 64, intent on spending my inheritance ( ;-) ) has ordered an Orange X9. can't wait to have a go when it arrives. Got a 40mm travel "gravel specific" version of a Fox 32 stepcast fork on it. Blurs the lines even more between gravel and a hardtail MTB.
Just looked it up: https://www.orangebikes.co.uk/bikes/x9-pro/2020

Looks interesting, like a Slate, but without the Slate issues (wheel clearance, cost of fork etc etc)
Ooh! I like that. But prices "from £2,300" don't fill me with hope of ever having one. And so it's back to my £53 ebay bargain Cannondale Backroads once again. It's just had a new headset bearing fitted (1,900 miles in my ownership, and probably the first time it's been done since it was built in the USA in the late '90s/early 00s) by The Forge Cycleworks in Ringwood, so very much in need of a test-ride today...

wavey
I gather he found a cheeky "black Friday" deal on a retailers website so paid a few hundred less than that. But I agree, the price of new bikes is crazy. I'd love to update my full sus MTB, but I'd be looking at the best part of £3k to get something I'd want. which isn't going to happen any time soon.

Enjoy the test ride thumbup

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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I’m not really into cycling for fitness as such (I run a lot..) but thinking of a gravel bike to get further afield at weekends. Not on roads too often. Plenty of bridal ways & towpaths around here.
To get a bit further, it got me thinking of an electric gravel bike !
Does such a thing exist ?