Dual purpose pedals

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MC Bodge

21,638 posts

176 months

Thursday 16th July 2020
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DMN said:
Half-n-half's can be more annoying that you think. I had some, but spent ages spinning the peddle round to get the right side for whatever shoes I was wearing. In the end I brought some Shimano M424's and haven't looked back.
They are not that bad.

I have been using them for about 15 years on commuter/errand bikes. How many times do you need to put your feet on an off the pedals? If you stand on the wrong side you just flip it forward with the toe/sole of your shoe and place it on the correct side- it very quickly becomes second nature.

I use full SPDs on my road bike and mtbs.

Edited by MC Bodge on Thursday 16th July 14:01

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Thursday 16th July 2020
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DMN said:
Half-n-half's can be more annoying that you think. I had some, but spent ages spinning the peddle round to get the right side for whatever shoes I was wearing. In the end I brought some Shimano M424's and haven't looked back.
Thats exactly why I went with the Shimano DX M647. Tread and clips on both sides - ideal on a Gravel bike.


squirdan

1,083 posts

148 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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Imad said:
Gingerbread Man said:
The wife and I use Crank Brothers Mallets. Nice flat pedal and clip in.
2nd Crank Brothers, but I use these - https://www.wiggle.co.uk/crank-brothers-doubleshot...

Completely flat on one side for regular shoes and good clip on the other. And on sale.
thanks for this tip - just ordered some. Love my mallets but find I dont always want to be clipped in offroad

272BHP

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5,096 posts

237 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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I think I might have bought the wrong shoes. I am hoping these would be compatible with the Crank Brothers double shot 2 cleats.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NEX46ZA/ref...

Would the cleats fit these shoes? or do I have to cancel the order?

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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272BHP said:
I think I might have bought the wrong shoes. I am hoping these would be compatible with the Crank Brothers double shot 2 cleats.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NEX46ZA/ref...

Would the cleats fit these shoes? or do I have to cancel the order?
No, they should be fine. All Crank Brothers I've seen use cleats with SPD standard (2-bolt standard)

272BHP

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5,096 posts

237 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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Ares said:
No, they should be fine. All Crank Brothers I've seen use cleats with SPD standard (2-bolt standard)
Thanks! I don't really like buying shoes online but needs must at the moment I suppose.

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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272BHP said:
Ares said:
No, they should be fine. All Crank Brothers I've seen use cleats with SPD standard (2-bolt standard)
Thanks! I don't really like buying shoes online but needs must at the moment I suppose.
Giro are a good generic fit, pretty much true to size, and MTB shoes are a little more compliant too. Good luck!

Imad

220 posts

136 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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squirdan said:
Imad said:
Gingerbread Man said:
The wife and I use Crank Brothers Mallets. Nice flat pedal and clip in.
2nd Crank Brothers, but I use these - https://www.wiggle.co.uk/crank-brothers-doubleshot...

Completely flat on one side for regular shoes and good clip on the other. And on sale.
thanks for this tip - just ordered some. Love my mallets but find I dont always want to be clipped in offroad
Enjoy them!

272BHP

Original Poster:

5,096 posts

237 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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I have the Crank Bother DoubleShot 2 pedals fitted and have also fitted the cleats to my new shoes that arrived this morning. Hmmm, this is starting to rapidly feel like this is one of the worst purchases I have made. I have been trying for 90mins to just get one shoe clipped in and I am not even close. Not by wearing the shoe or trying to attach it by hand. There doesn't seem to be any way this is ever going to attach.

Is there an actual spring on the pedals? I cannot move them apart much despite pushing as hard as I can - maybe it moves 1 or 2mm but not much more than that.

It all seems a little odd to me.

CharlieAlphaMike

1,138 posts

106 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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272BHP said:
I have the Crank Bother DoubleShot 2 pedals fitted and have also fitted the cleats to my new shoes that arrived this morning. Hmmm, this is starting to rapidly feel like this is one of the worst purchases I have made. I have been trying for 90mins to just get one shoe clipped in and I am not even close. Not by wearing the shoe or trying to attach it by hand. There doesn't seem to be any way this is ever going to attach.

Is there an actual spring on the pedals? I cannot move them apart much despite pushing as hard as I can - maybe it moves 1 or 2mm but not much more than that.

It all seems a little odd to me.
I don't have any personal experience with these pedals having never used them but I don't think they're adjustable. Have you tried getting the front of the cleat on the shoe in first and then pushing down on the back? Like a 'lever' type operation? I assume the cleat is fitted correctly to the shoe and that it's the right cleat for the pedal?

MC Bodge

21,638 posts

176 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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272BHP said:
I have the Crank Bother DoubleShot 2 pedals fitted and have also fitted the cleats to my new shoes that arrived this morning. Hmmm, this is starting to rapidly feel like this is one of the worst purchases I have made. I have been trying for 90mins to just get one shoe clipped in and I am not even close. Not by wearing the shoe or trying to attach it by hand. There doesn't seem to be any way this is ever going to attach.

Is there an actual spring on the pedals? I cannot move them apart much despite pushing as hard as I can - maybe it moves 1 or 2mm but not much more than that.

It all seems a little odd to me.
You are not using Shimano cleats are you?

You must be doing something wrong...

272BHP

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5,096 posts

237 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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Nope everything checks out ok. I have watched Youtube videos of people doing it with the same cleats and pedals

The little levers just won't budge to get the cleats in - I have tried WD40 and some quite excess force as well. Even if I do ever manage to get them in once I can't imagine the fuss of doing this at every traffic light!

Think i will just have to take the cleats off.

MC Bodge

21,638 posts

176 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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272BHP said:
Nope everything checks out ok. I have watched Youtube videos of people doing it with the same cleats and pedals

The little levers just won't budge to get the cleats in - I have tried WD40 and some quite excess force as well. Even if I do ever manage to get them in once I can't imagine the fuss of doing this at every traffic light!

Think i will just have to take the cleats off.


You asked if there is a spring. There appears to be a fairly prominent spring on the photo I found.
Is the cleat contacting the pedal mechanism or is the sole preventing it?

272BHP

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5,096 posts

237 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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Yeah its a very prominent spring isn't it, quite immovable though!

I have taken the pedals off the bike and have managed to attach a clip but it is a pretty herculean task. It is getting slightly easier though so I guess it is just a case of doing this many times before it loosens up. One of the suggestions on the crank brothers website was to do this at least 50 times before putting the pedals back on the bike. This will probably take all weekend for both pedals smile

CharlieAlphaMike

1,138 posts

106 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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How easy is it to unclip? That's the most important part. If you can unclip without too much effort, then I'd suggest you persevere. Take the guidance from the Crankbrothers website (where you said they advise clipping/unclipping approx 50 times). On the bright side, it's a good excuse for lots of rides wink

272BHP

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5,096 posts

237 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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I managed to get both feet clipped in for a short ride but it took ages to get to that point. Unclipping is not too bad and I think I will get used to that quite quick.

Hopefully it will all be second nature in a couple of weeks - either that or I will fall under a car smile

Gingerbread Man

9,171 posts

214 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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On my Crankbrothers you can easily twist in and twist out to unclip. Do you just try and press your foot in it do you 'kick' down onto the pedal so to speak?

Is the cleat spaced off of the show enough? They can also move back and forth a bit for adjustment.

272BHP

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5,096 posts

237 months

Saturday 25th July 2020
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I tried everything to get clipped in, stomping down, pressing back and forth and also twisting in. Can't try this again for awhile as I have sent the shoes back, I just realised they had sent a euro 45 instead of a 44. Hopefully a replacement will be on its way.

In my one short ride clipped in I certainly felt what others have said that the pedalling experience is transformed. I felt as though my legs controlled the entire bike, it will interesting to see if it improves performance - I am sure it will. I am sort of disappointed I chose such soft shoes as I feel a more solid shoe with a firm sole would probably feel even better.