Any Peloton bike users here?

Any Peloton bike users here?

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cerb4.5lee

30,734 posts

181 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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Chris Stott said:
For the dance music lovers…

Olivia’s 20 min house ride from 23/2 has a great playlist. It’s has some typically tough Olivia intervals… the out of the saddle stuff at the end at high cadence is a particular killer… 80 cadence is too much for me laugh

Oh, and check out her shoes… and the size of her feet… she’s tiny bit looks like she’s got men’s shoes on.
I'll try that one tomorrow then thanks. thumbup

g3org3y

20,639 posts

192 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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Julian Scott said:
g3org3y said:
Julian Scott said:
PT did it at the gym. Scales, Callipers, Body Circumference Measurements then the use of a Bioelectrical Impedance Analysis Machine.
Ah, done properly. My estimations from Smart Scale.

Apparently 23.3% body fat (was 25.4). Looking at photos online, seems like an over-estimation to me (but I would say that hehe)...at least on the downward trend.
Yes, Nothing is infallible but having it measured all ways is as good as it gets.

My 7.2% is hopefully pretty accurate. The callipers got 7.2, the BIAM said 7% dead.

That way of measuring hopefully also make the BMR more accurate too.
7.2% is properly lean! V impressive.

cerb4.5lee said:
You two are mad for it for sure! beer

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I'd probably die if I tried anything over 30 minutes! hehe
I could do longer, but it'd have to be a much more leisurely pace. wink

I did a Ben Aldis 30 min today (set a new PR) and was quite happy it until I noticed someone on the leaderboard with literally double my output score. irked

It's difficult with such a mixed ability group across the whole platform. I've mentioned before that some instructors tend to attract n00bs and others the serious cyclists. With some instructors I can be top 1/4, others bottom 1/4. As long as with time I keep improving my PRs, I'm happy. Not been brave enough to start attempting the Power Zone rides yet. Maybe next week...

Chris Stott

13,392 posts

198 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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PZ rides are nothing to be afraid of… they are targeted to the individuals fitness.

Why not do the discover your power zones program?

g3org3y

20,639 posts

192 months

Thursday 6th April 2023
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Chris Stott said:
PZ rides are nothing to be afraid of… they are targeted to the individuals fitness.

Why not do the discover your power zones program?
Do you need to use a HR monitor to do them properly?

(IIRC zone work is based on % max HR?)

gangzoom

6,313 posts

216 months

Thursday 6th April 2023
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g3org3y said:
Do you need to use a HR monitor to do them properly?

(IIRC zone work is based on % max HR?)
No much worse……..You need to do a 20 minute FPT test…….Unless you collapse at the end on the verge of vomiting, you haven’t tried hard enough!!!

g3org3y

20,639 posts

192 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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Chris Stott said:
PZ rides are nothing to be afraid of…
smile

gangzoom said:
No much worse……..You need to do a 20 minute FPT test…….Unless you collapse at the end on the verge of vomiting, you haven’t tried hard enough!!!
frown

Chris Stott

13,392 posts

198 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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laugh

Yeah, the FTP test can be a bit painful, but the 1st one is usually ok… It’s just as hard as you can go for 20 mins… ideally leaving nothing on the table.

Give it a go… like anything, it’s only as hard as the effort you decide to put in.

Julian Scott

2,512 posts

25 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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g3org3y said:
Julian Scott said:
g3org3y said:
Julian Scott said:
PT did it at the gym. Scales, Callipers, Body Circumference Measurements then the use of a Bioelectrical Impedance Analysis Machine.
Ah, done properly. My estimations from Smart Scale.

Apparently 23.3% body fat (was 25.4). Looking at photos online, seems like an over-estimation to me (but I would say that hehe)...at least on the downward trend.
Yes, Nothing is infallible but having it measured all ways is as good as it gets.

My 7.2% is hopefully pretty accurate. The callipers got 7.2, the BIAM said 7% dead.

That way of measuring hopefully also make the BMR more accurate too.
7.2% is properly lean! V impressive.
Thanks, it's not without concerted effort. My gene pool is to be naturally obese.


g3org3y

20,639 posts

192 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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Chris Stott said:
laugh

Yeah, the FTP test can be a bit painful, but the 1st one is usually ok… It’s just as hard as you can go for 20 mins… ideally leaving nothing on the table.

Give it a go… like anything, it’s only as hard as the effort you decide to put in.
I'll have a look into it, thanks.

Did the 30 mins Pharrell Williams ride with Hannah Frankson. Good songs and a fun work out. She does really get caught up in the music I notice and not the best at giving instructions/guiding the ride.

I think I need to do some core work. I've noticed post arm/weights work out, I struggle with lower back pain (esp if doing things like over head press). I tried lifting up against a wall to keep back straight with marginal help.

Any recommendations for back/core work outs?

Does anyone do any of the Yoga work outs?

Julian Scott said:
g3org3y said:
Julian Scott said:
g3org3y said:
Julian Scott said:
PT did it at the gym. Scales, Callipers, Body Circumference Measurements then the use of a Bioelectrical Impedance Analysis Machine.
Ah, done properly. My estimations from Smart Scale.

Apparently 23.3% body fat (was 25.4). Looking at photos online, seems like an over-estimation to me (but I would say that hehe)...at least on the downward trend.
Yes, Nothing is infallible but having it measured all ways is as good as it gets.

My 7.2% is hopefully pretty accurate. The callipers got 7.2, the BIAM said 7% dead.

That way of measuring hopefully also make the BMR more accurate too.
7.2% is properly lean! V impressive.
Thanks, it's not without concerted effort. My gene pool is to be naturally obese.
Crushing it mate, well done!

gangzoom

6,313 posts

216 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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^For core, Emma Lovewells program and sessions I've found the best. I do a 10 minute core session after every strength session.

There are some 'advanced' core sessions with weights which really kill your abs for a few days.

For the FTP test, there is no way around how hard it is. I've never done one before getting the Peloton bike. I now do a FTP test every 6 months or so to check where my FTP is, as the whole PowerZone program only works if you have done a FTP test at some point.......I could tell you FTP tests gets 'easier' but that would be lying smile.

Nope they are as hard everytime, and the anticipation of knowing how awful you feel afterwards makes them horrific experiences.......So why do them?? Why did anyone think swimming, followed by cycling than running would be 'fun', especially during the transition phases of the bike -> run???

Who ever came up with the FTP test probably loves self implicated pain that is the madness called Triathlon. Sounds fine, even looks fine when other nutter are doing it, but do it your self, and its just pain, more pain, and than some self motivation C**P you have to say to keep going through even more pain. Why does anyone do Triathlon for 'fun', and than there is the Iron-man, WTF!!! Are you actually insane to 'enjoy' swimming around pretending Jaws is about to bite you in half, than ride a bike for 100 miles, and finally just throw in a marathon to cool down. Seriously, why, what, why.........smile.

You might tell I didn't enjoy doing the one Triathlon I did a few years back, nor did I enjoy the Half Marathon I some how managed to cross the line. I'm no athlete, or even amateur pain loving sports nutter, which why its amazing I'm actually 'enjoying' Peloton so much (FTP test aside). 100 weeks in a few days!!




Edited by gangzoom on Saturday 8th April 06:52

okgo

38,086 posts

199 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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You could just do a ramp test to get the number. Takes less time and it’s similarly accurate. No idea whether peloton software has a ramp test but likely it does.

The 20 min test is meant to be done after a 5 min effort to get a fair number that would be 95% if your FTP but many don’t do this and get a vastly overstated number. FTP was what you could sustain for roughly an hour vs 20 minutes which again Peloton seem to have muddied the waters with.

Junglebert

85 posts

17 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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Chris Stott said:
PZ rides are nothing to be afraid of… they are targeted to the individuals fitness.

Why not do the discover your power zones program?
Good advice. As I said up thread, i started power zone training after reading about it here, and it’s transformed my fitness and my enjoyment of the bike.

gangzoom

6,313 posts

216 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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okgo said:
The 20 min test is meant to be done after a 5 min effort to get a fair number that would be 95% if your FTP but many don’t do this and get a vastly overstated number. FTP was what you could sustain for roughly an hour vs 20 minutes which again Peloton seem to have muddied the waters with.
The Peloton FTP 20 minute test comes after 10 minute FTP specfic warm up, and after the test the bike automatically puts the 95% figure as the FTP marker for the PowerZone programs.

I'm not sure how many people have the mental stamina to do a real 1hr FTP test in any setting apart from people enjoy doing Triathlons for fun smile

Chris Stott

13,392 posts

198 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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95% of your 20 minute best isn’t a fair reflection of hour pace for all but top end cyclists.

lauda

3,483 posts

208 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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Chris Stott said:
95% of your 20 minute best isn’t a fair reflection of hour pace for all but top end cyclists.
It isn’t even a fair reflection for most top end cyclists. Almost no one can hold 95% of their 20 minute power for an hour.

okgo

38,086 posts

199 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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It’s why you do the all out 5 minute before hand. Clears the freshness. That way 95% is actually vaguely correct. Peloton haven’t reinvented anything here it’s all from Coggan’s training and racing with a power meter which is generally the bible of all things power.

Anyway, my point was that a ramp test is over more quickly and more palatable than a 20 min effort and yields the same result.


gangzoom

6,313 posts

216 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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^I don’t think anyone is claiming anything about Peloton and their FTP stuff apart the fact its hard work, Peloton appears to follow the 20 minute stuff to exactly how you describe it.

Spent the day at the beach, but had to get the blue dot it, anyone looking to kill their core should try this 10 minute session from Emma…….Hard work but still much much less painful than the 20 minute FTP sessions smile.

https://members.onepeloton.com/share/workouts/1149...

g3org3y

20,639 posts

192 months

Tuesday 11th April 2023
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gangzoom said:
^I don’t think anyone is claiming anything about Peloton and their FTP stuff apart the fact its hard work, Peloton appears to follow the 20 minute stuff to exactly how you describe it.

Spent the day at the beach, but had to get the blue dot it, anyone looking to kill their core should try this 10 minute session from Emma…….Hard work but still much much less painful than the 20 minute FTP sessions smile.

https://members.onepeloton.com/share/workouts/1149...
Not sure if I need to be 'following' you profile to be able to see the workout details.

What's the date of Emma's (10 min) session? Will search for it manually.

Now at 11 week stretch have to say Ben Alldis is coming to be my favourite instructor. He seems focused and no nonsense but also very positive. I've also found his 'Roll Call: Upper body Strength' classes to be really good.

Chris Stott

13,392 posts

198 months

Thursday 13th April 2023
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Well that was both surprising and motivating…

Got home from work late, not really motivated, but thought I’d do a quick 30 min PZE… don’t normally do PZE’s less than 45 mins, but I’d had a tough day, it’s hot here (high 20’s), and my fulling consisted of a coffee for breakfast and a mcspicy & fanta orange at lunch… oh, and I’d been out for dinner last night and polished off a couple of beers and 2 bottles of red.

Spinning away in the warm up (38/100+) and actually felt ok, left the resistance at 38 and did 125-130 cadence in the spin ups, and was steady 240 watts (top of zone 4) by the end of the build… so just kept going.

Did the remaining 20 mins at a steady 250-280 watts (49/100) and it felt (relatively) manageable… HR didn’t hit Z4 until 9 mins to go, and only averaged 150bpm for the 30 mins… I have averaged 164+ when fully committed in the past.

Maybe the recent work is starting to pay off… of maybe i just need junk food and more red wine laugh

GTPork

43 posts

40 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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Checking in as a new owner. My official refurbished bike (£995 delivered) arrived this week and I decided to start easy with the ‘You can ride’ beginner programme. Some useful tips on the equipment and technique so I’ll stick with it.

After the first workout I found that I hardly broke a sweat (ave HR of 81) but legs felt it. Goes to show how long it’s been since I cycled and how it’s a different discipline to running.

Impressed with it so far but a little overwhelmed with the extensive list of classes and instructors so any pointers would be appreciated. Cheers