Any Peloton bike users here?
Discussion
cerb4.5lee said:
We were only saying yesterday that it is arguably a waste of money for us really. My missus doesn't use it at all, and the most I ever use it is 3 rides a week at best.
We certainly don't make the best of it like some of you do that is for sure. I do always enjoy reading about you lot who are dedicated to it though.
I'm the only one using it in my house as well. Despite the other two people in the house were the ones who wanted it.We certainly don't make the best of it like some of you do that is for sure. I do always enjoy reading about you lot who are dedicated to it though.
I'm only managing 3 rides a week max at the moment, my lower joints, right hip especially means that when I was pushing 4+ rides a week, I was starting to have further pain so I've had to dial it back a bit. I'm now not totally focussed on PR's and not trying to push myself to the max each ride, more about just getting on the peloton and completing a ride and hopefully benefitting my joints.
nordboy said:
I'm the only one using it in my house as well. Despite the other two people in the house were the ones who wanted it.
I'm only managing 3 rides a week max at the moment, my lower joints, right hip especially means that when I was pushing 4+ rides a week, I was starting to have further pain so I've had to dial it back a bit. I'm now not totally focussed on PR's and not trying to push myself to the max each ride, more about just getting on the peloton and completing a ride and hopefully benefitting my joints.
Easy enough to drop the intensity level and increase duration… depending on what you’re trying to achieve that could be more beneficial. I'm only managing 3 rides a week max at the moment, my lower joints, right hip especially means that when I was pushing 4+ rides a week, I was starting to have further pain so I've had to dial it back a bit. I'm now not totally focussed on PR's and not trying to push myself to the max each ride, more about just getting on the peloton and completing a ride and hopefully benefitting my joints.
Got a few days of A/L to use, so why not use to look at data 
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Currently half way through the 'peak your PZ' program for the 2nd time this year. Did a 45min Z3/4 ride, looking at the numbers I seem to be making some progress interms of fitness. Higher average power readings but lower heart rate.
What I noticed most was my heart rate seems to be 'recovering' much after, same block of work here 4 minutes Z4, 2 minutes Z3, 4 minutes Z4, 3 minute Z1 recovery. Despite higher output during Z3/Z4 blocks of works, heart rate was lower today at the end of recovery compared to Jan.
Nothing magical I suppose, just consistent work = fitness. Still cannot bring my self to do another 20 minute FTP test though, even the thought is too painful.
.Currently half way through the 'peak your PZ' program for the 2nd time this year. Did a 45min Z3/4 ride, looking at the numbers I seem to be making some progress interms of fitness. Higher average power readings but lower heart rate.
What I noticed most was my heart rate seems to be 'recovering' much after, same block of work here 4 minutes Z4, 2 minutes Z3, 4 minutes Z4, 3 minute Z1 recovery. Despite higher output during Z3/Z4 blocks of works, heart rate was lower today at the end of recovery compared to Jan.
Nothing magical I suppose, just consistent work = fitness. Still cannot bring my self to do another 20 minute FTP test though, even the thought is too painful
.okgo said:
The vast majority will be like this so don’t feel bad.
I have been to a lot of my sons mates houses for 3 year old parties and have lost track of the amount of pelotons with dust on them. It’s an age old joke about home workout stuff that it becomes a very awkward shaped clothes horse.
As it turns out Specialized FACT11 carbon + GRX hoods is just as good at hanging dirty washing I have been to a lot of my sons mates houses for 3 year old parties and have lost track of the amount of pelotons with dust on them. It’s an age old joke about home workout stuff that it becomes a very awkward shaped clothes horse.
okgo said:
Its going out of fashionI've said numerous time that its only a matter of time for Peloton. The only way I can see this company surviving is to ditch the hardware side and just focus on online classes.
okgo said:
Churn rate of 1.4% described as 'high', not sure how many other subscription products have a that kind of following. You seem to love hating Peloton, as much as those of us who use the product love it .What's going on with the lack of live cycle classes? I thought for my 100 ride I'd give one a go. Nothing live for days?? In fact the next live one is the 5th Sept. They're re-hashing old rides as encore rides.
So looks like it'll be a normal older ride after all. I'll give myself a 'shout out'
So looks like it'll be a normal older ride after all. I'll give myself a 'shout out'
nordboy said:
What's going on with the lack of live cycle classes? I thought for my 100 ride I'd give one a go. Nothing live for days?? In fact the next live one is the 5th Sept. They're re-hashing old rides as encore rides.
So looks like it'll be a normal older ride after all. I'll give myself a 'shout out'
I believe that they have been giving the studio a refit/refresh, so it has been shut for a bit while they do it. So looks like it'll be a normal older ride after all. I'll give myself a 'shout out'
cerb4.5lee said:
I believe that they have been giving the studio a refit/refresh, so it has been shut for a bit while they do it.
I know London is undergoing a refit, but what about the US studio? You'd think they'd still be doing the live stuff? Maybe even taking up some of the slack?I then found out that even the 'Premiere' rides aren't live. Just as well I'm not that bothered about doing only live classes, I'd only get a ride every couple of weeks.
Was just surprised at the lack of live stuff really?
Just started week 5 of the Peak your PZ program.
Last time round Matt's 45 minute zone 4/5 literally broke me, the 5 minute zone 4 efforts really creeps up, and following on from a 60 minute ride a few days before, my body just couldn't handle it after the penultimate zone 5 push
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6 months on and I managed to complete survive....just.....looking at the PZ splits, its essentially a 20 minute FTP test thats being split into 3 sections, which still makes it painful rather than fun. But whats the saying, no pain, no gain.
Last time round Matt's 45 minute zone 4/5 literally broke me, the 5 minute zone 4 efforts really creeps up, and following on from a 60 minute ride a few days before, my body just couldn't handle it after the penultimate zone 5 push
.6 months on and I managed to complete survive....just.....looking at the PZ splits, its essentially a 20 minute FTP test thats being split into 3 sections, which still makes it painful rather than fun. But whats the saying, no pain, no gain
.Well, I finally did the FTP test today.
Did the 20 min Ben Alldis ride with his 10 min warm up session.
As expected, PR for a 20 min ride.
Also new 'PR' for HR (my previous max was 185).
That last 5 mins is a killer though. I wonder whether I'd be better suited with slightly lower resistance and maintaining a higher cadence through the ride.
FWIW, I've been able to peak up to 300 (albeit v short lived) in a HIIT class and will regularly go >200 on an interval push. Maintaining for a long period of time is quite another matter though!
Any tips from the FTP veterans? Is it all about Power Zone rides now?
Did the 20 min Ben Alldis ride with his 10 min warm up session.
As expected, PR for a 20 min ride.
Also new 'PR' for HR (my previous max was 185).
That last 5 mins is a killer though. I wonder whether I'd be better suited with slightly lower resistance and maintaining a higher cadence through the ride.
FWIW, I've been able to peak up to 300 (albeit v short lived) in a HIIT class and will regularly go >200 on an interval push. Maintaining for a long period of time is quite another matter though!
Any tips from the FTP veterans? Is it all about Power Zone rides now?
Edited by g3org3y on Wednesday 6th September 15:41
Cadence for most people should be around 80-90. Some outliers but that’s most people.
You’re at a place in your journey where specific sessions IMO are probably just over complicating things. Just do a bit of everything at all intensities/some long/some short and some recovery and be consistent in that and you’ll see rapid gains.
You’re at a place in your journey where specific sessions IMO are probably just over complicating things. Just do a bit of everything at all intensities/some long/some short and some recovery and be consistent in that and you’ll see rapid gains.
g3org3y said:
Well, I finally did the FTP test today.
Did the 20 min Ben Alldis ride with his 10 min warm up session.
As expected, PR for a 20 min ride.
Also new 'PR' for HR (my previous max was 185).
That last 5 mins is a killer though. I wonder whether I'd be better suited with slightly lower resistance and maintaining a higher cadence through the ride.
FWIW, I've been able to peak up to 300 (albeit v short lived) in a HIIT class and will regularly go >200 on an interval push. Maintaining for a long period of time is quite another matter though!
Any tips from the FTP veterans? Is it all about Power Zone rides now?
Pretty much any kind of training will build your FTP initially, whether that is higher intensity, short efforts, or long, base type rides. As you get fitter, the efforts in and around your lactate threshold, which typically is 80-85% of your max HR will stress the processes which effect your FTP.Did the 20 min Ben Alldis ride with his 10 min warm up session.
As expected, PR for a 20 min ride.
Also new 'PR' for HR (my previous max was 185).
That last 5 mins is a killer though. I wonder whether I'd be better suited with slightly lower resistance and maintaining a higher cadence through the ride.
FWIW, I've been able to peak up to 300 (albeit v short lived) in a HIIT class and will regularly go >200 on an interval push. Maintaining for a long period of time is quite another matter though!
Any tips from the FTP veterans? Is it all about Power Zone rides now?
Edited by g3org3y on Wednesday 6th September 15:41
Anything over 85% should be short intervals and interspersed by recovery, anything under 85% you should be able to maintain for 20mins or more.
The long slow rides are really important for developing oxygen uptake etc though, if you have the time.
It’s very important that you find your actual Max HR, rather than using a generic Max HR for your age, as the figure can be waaaaay out.
Most importantly, it takes time. FTP is built over years, not in a few training sessions
okgo said:
Cadence for most people should be around 80-90. Some outliers but that’s most people.
You’re at a place in your journey where specific sessions IMO are probably just over complicating things. Just do a bit of everything at all intensities/some long/some short and some recovery and be consistent in that and you’ll see rapid gains.
My ave cadence was 82, so not too bad.You’re at a place in your journey where specific sessions IMO are probably just over complicating things. Just do a bit of everything at all intensities/some long/some short and some recovery and be consistent in that and you’ll see rapid gains.
At the w/e I do longer IRL bike rides, 20-30 miles listening to podcasts. Otherwise I do the regular Peloton 20-30 min classes.
andyeds1234 said:
Pretty much any kind of training will build your FTP initially, whether that is higher intensity, short efforts, or long, base type rides. As you get fitter, the efforts in and around your lactate threshold, which typically is 80-85% of your max HR will stress the processes which effect your FTP.
Anything over 85% should be short intervals and interspersed by recovery, anything under 85% you should be able to maintain for 20mins or more.
The long slow rides are really important for developing oxygen uptake etc though, if you have the time.
It’s very important that you find your actual Max HR, rather than using a generic Max HR for your age, as the figure can be waaaaay out.
Most importantly, it takes time. FTP is built over years, not in a few training sessions
Today's ride was with a HR monitor. My previous highest recorded HR was 185.Anything over 85% should be short intervals and interspersed by recovery, anything under 85% you should be able to maintain for 20mins or more.
The long slow rides are really important for developing oxygen uptake etc though, if you have the time.
It’s very important that you find your actual Max HR, rather than using a generic Max HR for your age, as the figure can be waaaaay out.
Most importantly, it takes time. FTP is built over years, not in a few training sessions
I'm just curious if there's a better approach to maximising (and sustaining output). With the next FTP test, I'll try keeping cadence a bit higher (and drop the resistance a couple of points) and see how it goes.
g3org3y said:
okgo said:
Cadence for most people should be around 80-90. Some outliers but that’s most people.
You’re at a place in your journey where specific sessions IMO are probably just over complicating things. Just do a bit of everything at all intensities/some long/some short and some recovery and be consistent in that and you’ll see rapid gains.
My ave cadence was 82, so not too bad.You’re at a place in your journey where specific sessions IMO are probably just over complicating things. Just do a bit of everything at all intensities/some long/some short and some recovery and be consistent in that and you’ll see rapid gains.
At the w/e I do longer IRL bike rides, 20-30 miles listening to podcasts. Otherwise I do the regular Peloton 20-30 min classes.
andyeds1234 said:
Pretty much any kind of training will build your FTP initially, whether that is higher intensity, short efforts, or long, base type rides. As you get fitter, the efforts in and around your lactate threshold, which typically is 80-85% of your max HR will stress the processes which effect your FTP.
Anything over 85% should be short intervals and interspersed by recovery, anything under 85% you should be able to maintain for 20mins or more.
The long slow rides are really important for developing oxygen uptake etc though, if you have the time.
It’s very important that you find your actual Max HR, rather than using a generic Max HR for your age, as the figure can be waaaaay out.
Most importantly, it takes time. FTP is built over years, not in a few training sessions
Today's ride was with a HR monitor. My previous highest recorded HR was 185.Anything over 85% should be short intervals and interspersed by recovery, anything under 85% you should be able to maintain for 20mins or more.
The long slow rides are really important for developing oxygen uptake etc though, if you have the time.
It’s very important that you find your actual Max HR, rather than using a generic Max HR for your age, as the figure can be waaaaay out.
Most importantly, it takes time. FTP is built over years, not in a few training sessions
I'm just curious if there's a better approach to maximising (and sustaining output). With the next FTP test, I'll try keeping cadence a bit higher (and drop the resistance a couple of points) and see how it goes.
The more “trained” you are, the more you will improve your threshold output, it’s just as simple as that. Technique or methods of riding are just the icing in the cake.
Edit: one thing definitely worth keeping an eye on, is your body temperature, especially in the current warm weather
Heat build up in an indoor training can be significant, and can really affect your output as it builds up over your ride.
Cooling and hydration is really important.
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