Any Peloton bike users here?

Any Peloton bike users here?

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g3org3y

20,633 posts

191 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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okgo said:
Rich still did 400w for the duration which is more than most on here seem to peak rofl
Is this bloke a professional cyclist?

andyeds1234

2,284 posts

170 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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g3org3y said:
okgo said:
Rich still did 400w for the duration which is more than most on here seem to peak rofl
Is this bloke a professional cyclist?
No, he used to be a postie, not sure if that’s still the case though.

gangzoom

6,303 posts

215 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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Chris Stott said:
Better that than an overweight middle aged bloke, clad in replica team Lycra and riding a 5 figure bike with a queue of 20 cars behind him.
Much better to stick to the Pelotonsmile.

Someone mentioned bedrooms earlier, the bedrooms are the only places getting aircon in our build project. Drew up a quick sketch, I think I've found the new place for the Peloton stuff.


super7

1,935 posts

208 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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Chris Stott said:
gangzoom said:
I see 'proper' cyclists (not bounded by the UCI) could use some of the Peloton strength classes rather than resorting to strapping plastic lumps to their arms, legs, chest.......'Proper' cyclists are an inspiration to all of us smile.

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Better that than an overweight middle aged bloke, clad in replica team Lycra and riding a 5 figure bike with a queue of 20 cars behind him.
Brilliant……

Peloton is not a bike…. It’s not cycling… you don't go up and down hills…. Peloton is purely an exercise machine. It’s not meant to replicate a real bike…

okgo

38,057 posts

198 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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g3org3y said:
Is this bloke a professional cyclist?
No, got battered by a young pro who did 430w! I used to do over 400w for a 10 mile tt too, probably struggle with 300 today but was miles from professional. There’s no nice way to hear it but Peloton suggesting 260w is top percentile is just very far from what you’d see in a more cycling specific platform.

gangzoom

6,303 posts

215 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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okgo said:
No, got battered by a young pro who did 430w! I used to do over 400w for a 10 mile tt too, probably struggle with 300 today but was miles from professional. There’s no nice way to hear it but Peloton suggesting 260w is top percentile is just very far from what you’d see in a more cycling specific platform.
Who, when, where has any one suggested Peloton was aiming to turn people into pro racers or even amateur racers?


okgo

38,057 posts

198 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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gangzoom said:
Who, when, where has any one suggested Peloton was aiming to turn people into pro racers or even amateur racers?
I’m quoting verbatim what was said about FTP’s
tests on the previous page and where Peloton ranks them. Hence I assume Georgey’s shock and at actually decent amateur number.

It is purely an excelsior machine but it’s using metrics and mechanics that are cycling. So cyclists can add some texture I suppose.


gangzoom

6,303 posts

215 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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okgo said:
No, got battered by a young pro who did 430w! I used to do over 400w for a 10 mile tt too, probably struggle with 300 today but was miles from professional. There’s no nice way to hear it but Peloton suggesting 260w is top percentile is just very far from what you’d see in a more cycling specific platform.
I think your super human abilities have been acknowledged before smile

I can manage about 1 minute at 300watts before dying.



However it’s still better than 6 months ago, when I died after not even hitting 300watts.



Peloton for us mere mortals does the job of a fitness tool amazingly well, as for my actual bike, its not longer a £5000 list price cloth hanger - as I’ve managed to find a better way to dry washing. It’s not just a £5000 waste of space blocking the use of a toilet!!


gangzoom

6,303 posts

215 months

Saturday 23rd September 2023
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Completed the 'hardest' week of the PZ program, two rides with Z5/6/7 segments followed by a 90 minute Z3 ride......Legs feel like they are going to fall off, which I guess is the point of trying to improve fitnesssmile.



Not sure I can be bothered to do the FTP next week as the official last class in the program, I really don't want to throw up in the living room in front of the family!!!

Resting HR is under 50 again, with nocturnal HR of under 40 so the program has done its just of improving cardio fitness. I think I'll focus on strength work again for a few months before doing another PZ program, the legs do need a rest.


IroningMan

10,154 posts

246 months

Saturday 23rd September 2023
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Stuck in a couple of hotels in the US last month I used Peloton for the first time. Quite fun, but however Peloton bikes measure power it certainty doesn’t appear to be by actually measuring power.

Two rides, different bikes, more or less the same RPE. Turning the knob on the second one wound up the power without affecting the resistance.




Chris Stott

13,384 posts

197 months

Sunday 24th September 2023
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The early bikes use a simple resistance x cadence multiplier, and can be way out. Looks like the 2nd bike you ride was broken.

gangzoom

6,303 posts

215 months

Sunday 1st October 2023
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September was a mad month at work and generally life, so I was surprised to find I had averaged one 30 minute Peloton class of some kind every day. I assume its the Pz program that kept me going during days when I just wanted to nothing!



October hasn't got off to a great start, had to stop short in a 60 minute PZ ride. Just didn't have in the legs to do the final Z3-4-5 segment. Onwards and upwards, will probably take it easier this month on the Peloton bike this month and use the real thing more for commuting. Probably kick off another PZ program to time it finishing around Xmas. Will help to distract from eating like a pig around the holidays too hopefully.


Not Ideal

2,899 posts

188 months

Monday 2nd October 2023
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^^^ nicely done.

It goes that like sometimes - I felt awful 2/3rds the way through my Peleton ride on Saturday so just dialled it right back and spun it out. Can’t win them all.

MaxFromage

1,887 posts

131 months

Monday 2nd October 2023
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gangzoom said:
September was a mad month at work and generally life, so I was surprised to find I had averaged one 30 minute Peloton class of some kind every day. I assume its the Pz program that kept me going during days when I just wanted to nothing!



October hasn't got off to a great start, had to stop short in a 60 minute PZ ride. Just didn't have in the legs to do the final Z3-4-5 segment. Onwards and upwards, will probably take it easier this month on the Peloton bike this month and use the real thing more for commuting. Probably kick off another PZ program to time it finishing around Xmas. Will help to distract from eating like a pig around the holidays too hopefully.

I've just read the whole thread and your commitment is something else! Do you have a watch or other monitor to check for overtraining?

okgo

38,057 posts

198 months

Monday 2nd October 2023
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I would not put much trust in those devices. Pretty blunt instruments imo. My Garmin told me after a ride recently that I needed 3 days to recover. Obviously total fiction and was able to do the same ride the following day.

I dare say it would be very hard to overtrain indoors, you’d have to be doing a fairly intense and long set of sessions. 30-45 minutes isn’t going to do that, especially if you’ve been doing it a long time as you’ll have built up the ‘training load’ to absorb the sessions.

As the old adage goes, the more you train the more you can train. Have had a very lax summer myself, attempting to get back on the turbo/bike now as have some lard to shift, doesn’t happen very quickly when your ftp begins with a 2!

MaxFromage

1,887 posts

131 months

Monday 2nd October 2023
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Agreed that you should always trust your own body, but overtraining does hold a lot of people back. Experience, age etc always have a bearing on matters.

okgo

38,057 posts

198 months

Monday 2nd October 2023
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My point was that he’s likely not even close to the realms of overtraining given he has been doing the same sort of thing for a long time (ergo body adept in absorbing the load) and that the time spent is relatively low anyway. I’d add the reason so many people find cycling is due to injury in other sports, it’s obviously low impact so it’s hard to put yourself in the overtraining box without significant volume (hours per day sort of thing) and reluctance to take a day off.






gangzoom

6,303 posts

215 months

Monday 2nd October 2023
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No idea where training (over or not) has come from smile.

Crazy at work last month, single parent duties on/off nearly every week, a few nights out which gets hard to recover from these days meant I ended having to do the last few PZs at 11pm on a work night so to not miss the program. So yesterday after 45 minutes of riding I really just couldn't be bothered to finish the last 15 minutes.

Sadly October isn't looking any better interms of time management, got a 3000 word dissertation due in 8 days (done about 1/3 of it), need to be in 2 different places at once for work most days of this week, than throw in some extra afterschool class run to do, oh and than there is ongoing house renovations........When/how I do Peloton classes is probably the one bit of 'control' I have with life at present.

I'm sure there is proverb about better to be needed vs wanted or something like that, but I'll happily just settle for more hours in the day smile.


Edited by gangzoom on Monday 2nd October 21:10

g3org3y

20,633 posts

191 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2023
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gangzoom said:
Crazy at work last month, single parent duties on/off nearly every week, a few nights out which gets hard to recover from these days meant I ended having to do the last few PZs at 11pm on a work night so to not miss the program. So yesterday after 45 minutes of riding I really just couldn't be bothered to finish the last 15 minutes.
Do you manage to sleep ok doing such a work out so late in the evening?

Weather getting a bit rubbish and it's still dark in the mornings. That means I'm likely to do Peloton for my longer (Zone 2) rides at the weekend (normally I'd aim to be outside on the bike by 6:30).

Current regimen is:

Monday: Ben Alldis split: Upper Body Push
Tuesday: 20-30 min ride (HIIT or whatever takes my fancy)
Weds: Ben Alldis split: Legs/Core
Thursday: 20-30 mins ride (HIIT or whatever takes my fancy)
Friday: Ben Alldis split: Upper body Pull
Sat or Sun: Long Zone 2 ride.

I've as yet not tried to PZ rides, might give them a go in the upcoming weeks.

Julian Scott

2,512 posts

24 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2023
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gangzoom said:
No idea where training (over or not) has come from smile.

Crazy at work last month, single parent duties on/off nearly every week, a few nights out which gets hard to recover from these days meant I ended having to do the last few PZs at 11pm on a work night so to not miss the program. So yesterday after 45 minutes of riding I really just couldn't be bothered to finish the last 15 minutes.

Sadly October isn't looking any better interms of time management, got a 3000 word dissertation due in 8 days (done about 1/3 of it), need to be in 2 different places at once for work most days of this week, than throw in some extra afterschool class run to do, oh and than there is ongoing house renovations........When/how I do Peloton classes is probably the one bit of 'control' I have with life at present.

I'm sure there is proverb about better to be needed vs wanted or something like that, but I'll happily just settle for more hours in the day smile.


Edited by gangzoom on Monday 2nd October 21:10
I've no idea how it would measure overtraining, and even then I'm sure it would be questionable.

I've used a Whoop for over 3 years. Whoop uses a range of stats to measure strain & recovery, and thus will signal over-reaching, but only really a daily prediction based on the previous night's recovery. I find it uncannily accurate.

It uses (all calculated overnight):

Respiratory Rate
Blood Oxygen
Resting Heart Rate
Heart Rate Variability
Skin Temperature

It then together with previous day strain will calculate your recovery %.

As I say, I find it really quite accurate - although it took a good 3 months to get an accurate baseline.


SO...back to your point, Stress of any kind massively affects recovery. Physical stress (exercise/exertion as well as fighting any form of illness/infection OR Alcohol consumption!) plus emotional stress and mental stress.

A low exercise, low exertion, alcohol free day but with a significant amount of mental and/or emotional stress can lead to a far lower recovery.

If your overtraining is worked out similarly, it's not just training that is causing that drop.