Tips/critique for a new rider

Tips/critique for a new rider

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WhisperingWasp

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1,456 posts

138 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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I mentioned that I struggled on my last ride - now know why. I was coming down with a bug of some sort and it has wiped me out for a week! Not back to 100% but I did get myself out today as wanted to get back into my pattern. Didn't feel amazing (still a bit bunged up and lacking some energy) but glad I got myself out.



Edited by WhisperingWasp on Sunday 29th May 19:12

ShortShift811

533 posts

143 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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Nice to see you're getting the cycling bug :-)

Just to add to all the good advice on here. When adjusting anything to do with bike fit, I found it easy to just do one thing at a time in small increments - stem length, bar height, saddle height, saddle fore / aft, whatever. That way if it feels wrong it's easy to adjust back to your previous baseline.

Oh, and if you haven't already, wait 'til you have the fun of cleats and proper pedals and clipping your feet in. ;-)

WhisperingWasp

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1,456 posts

138 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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Thanks for that info ShortShift.

So tonight I went out and got a puncture! Does that mean I’m properly part of the club now?! I took a gentle ride home (don’t know if I should have or not) and set about changing the tyre.

Handily I had two spare Bontrager tyres (god knows where they came from hehe) but I really struggled getting the tyre off. Anyway I managed to replace the rear tyre so thought I would do the front to match. I managed to snap 3 tyre levers trying to get the front off and gave up!

Is it ok to have mismatched tyres? Front has some grippy bits, rear (now) doesn’t… and any tips on the tyre lever things? The force that seems to be required makes me wonder why they are plastic?!


Mark83

1,165 posts

202 months

Thursday 2nd June 2022
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Fortunately, punctures are rare. I have maybe one or two a year. Keep an eye on your tyres for cuts and nicks. Get yourself some Continental GP5000s for the summer and 4Seasons for the winter. Can't say I've ever run mismatched tyres, nor would I want to, especially chucking it into a corner.

Never snapped a tyre lever but maybe the tyres? Beaded and tubeless can be very tight. I hate beaded tyres, don't run tubeless and never had a problem. Mine are generic plastic ones.

Edited by Mark83 on Thursday 2nd June 19:58

WhisperingWasp

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1,456 posts

138 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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Belated post from yesterday morning's ride. 10 minutes quicker than my last ride on this route (albeit when not feeling great) and 3 minutes quicker than my previous best. I was going up hills a gear or two higher (or lower?! But you know what I mean) than I have been. Not sure whether this is down to a general improvement in my fitness/technique or how much the different tyre had to do with it?!



Edited by WhisperingWasp on Friday 3rd June 23:15

WhisperingWasp

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1,456 posts

138 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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Mark83 said:
Fortunately, punctures are rare. I have maybe one or two a year. Keep an eye on your tyres for cuts and nicks. Get yourself some Continental GP5000s for the summer and 4Seasons for the winter. Can't say I've ever run mismatched tyres, nor would I want to, especially chucking it into a corner.

Never snapped a tyre lever but maybe the tyres? Beaded and tubeless can be very tight. I hate beaded tyres, don't run tubeless and never had a problem. Mine are generic plastic ones.

Edited by Mark83 on Thursday 2nd June 19:58
Mark with the different tyres do you have different wheels too and just swap the whole lot over or do you replace the tyres on the rims each time?

I went out on mismatched tyres yesterday; smooth (new) rear one and the old front with a touch of grip on it. I figured having a grippier front wasn't too risky. It felt fine tbh but I will have another go at matching up the front tyre.

I was probably a bit cack-handed with the levers, first time I'd changed a tyre. But I think they might be beaded actually.

Mark83

1,165 posts

202 months

Saturday 4th June 2022
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Can you fold the tyres or is there a steel bead meaning you cannot fold the tyre? I bought some beaded tyres for commuting when I was new to cycling. Never again. I binned them straight away. It took me 20 minutes of struggling in my living room to fit them. I couldn't imagine doing that roadside in the winter.

I have multiple wheels. My winter wheels have the Continental 4Season on them. I've a couple of sets of carbon wheels, both with GP5000 tyres so can swap wheels over easily and not faff with fitting tyres.

WhisperingWasp

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138 months

Saturday 4th June 2022
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Mark83 said:
Can you fold the tyres or is there a steel bead meaning you cannot fold the tyre? I bought some beaded tyres for commuting when I was new to cycling. Never again. I binned them straight away. It took me 20 minutes of struggling in my living room to fit them. I couldn't imagine doing that roadside in the winter.

I have multiple wheels. My winter wheels have the Continental 4Season on them. I've a couple of sets of carbon wheels, both with GP5000 tyres so can swap wheels over easily and not faff with fitting tyres.
There doesn't appear to be a wire but they stay round when not mounted and are quite stiff. I'll upload a photo. The multiple sets of wheels makes sense. I'll hold off on that route for now as my motivation to get in better shape is due to my wedding in August so will be summer riding only. Assuming I take to it though (I am) I will have to invest in some all-round gear I guess.

Edit: old punctured tyre in front. Replacement tyre behind. It is a much lighter feeling tyre. This is to go on the front at the second attempt!



Edited by WhisperingWasp on Saturday 4th June 17:35

WhisperingWasp

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1,456 posts

138 months

Saturday 4th June 2022
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Another ride today. Quite like this route. Sub-1 hour and whilst not that much climbing there is very little coasting either so I get into quite a good rhythm on it.


WhisperingWasp

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1,456 posts

138 months

Sunday 5th June 2022
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Another ride today. Off work this week so I am going to try and get out every day. Smashed my best time on this route and could feel myself going noticeably faster at certain points. The new tyres (managed to fit the front now btw) seem to make a massive difference.

Is this in my head and is it me? Or do tyres make a really noticeable difference?


deeen

6,081 posts

246 months

Sunday 5th June 2022
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The tyres could be "marginal gains" ( a small help) but I bet 90% of the improvement is down to the fact you keep practicing, that's improvements in fitness, technique and a bit of knowing the roads!

To answer an earlier question, plastic tyre levers are to minimise damage to carbon wheel rims.

To answer a question you didn't ask ( well this is PH!), every ride I carry 2 spare inner tubes, tyre levers and a small pump. amongst other things... but there's probably another thread for that!

defblade

7,438 posts

214 months

Sunday 5th June 2022
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Tyres can completely change a bike.

I went from Marathons to GP5000s on my old audax bike - each of which cost probably more than I'd spent on a pair in the past - and it felt like a different bike. Totally different price points and design characteristics though. I doubt I'd notice anything like as much moving between various performance tyres rather than changing from heavyweight commuting/touring ones.

WhisperingWasp

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1,456 posts

138 months

Monday 6th June 2022
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deeen said:
The tyres could be "marginal gains" ( a small help) but I bet 90% of the improvement is down to the fact you keep practicing, that's improvements in fitness, technique and a bit of knowing the roads!

To answer an earlier question, plastic tyre levers are to minimise damage to carbon wheel rims.

To answer a question you didn't ask ( well this is PH!), every ride I carry 2 spare inner tubes, tyre levers and a small pump. amongst other things... but there's probably another thread for that!
Cheers deeen. I’d love to think it is me so maybe we can agree on 50:50 hehe

Having managed to get the old tyre off I can confirm the plastic ones work fine with my replacement tyres. Think the old ones were particularly stiff.

WhisperingWasp

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1,456 posts

138 months

Monday 6th June 2022
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defblade said:
Tyres can completely change a bike.

I went from Marathons to GP5000s on my old audax bike - each of which cost probably more than I'd spent on a pair in the past - and it felt like a different bike. Totally different price points and design characteristics though. I doubt I'd notice anything like as much moving between various performance tyres rather than changing from heavyweight commuting/touring ones.
The tyres I put on must have come with the bike when I bought it, can’t think why I would have them otherwise. So I have no idea what “level” they are tbh. They are smoother and narrower though so guess a bit speedier.

WhisperingWasp

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1,456 posts

138 months

Monday 6th June 2022
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Carbon copy ride from yesterday. Minute slower but still pleased with my pace.


Mark83

1,165 posts

202 months

Monday 6th June 2022
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WhisperingWasp said:
The tyres I put on must have come with the bike when I bought it, can’t think why I would have them otherwise. So I have no idea what “level” they are tbh. They are smoother and narrower though so guess a bit speedier.
OEM tyres are generally rubbish.

£100 on decent lightweight tubes and some premium rubber is a great upgrade. They will have more grip and lower rolling resistance.

I wouldn't worry about a minute here and there. Weather, traffic etc. all affect time. The only real metric for tracking progress is power. That's a slippery and expensive slope.



Edited by Mark83 on Monday 6th June 22:34

WhisperingWasp

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1,456 posts

138 months

Monday 6th June 2022
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Mark83 said:
OEM tyres are generally rubbish.

£100 on decent lightweight tubes and some premium rubber is a great upgrade. They will have more grip and lower rolling resistance.

I wouldn't worry about a minute here and there. Weather, traffic etc. all affect time. The only real metric for tracking progress is power. That's a slippery and expensive slope.



Edited by Mark83 on Monday 6th June 22:34
I do quite like the idea of having tyres with Continental on the sides!

On the power thing is that the watts in your Strava? Mine is set to mph (but I suppose if my average speed is going up that is a similar measure).

Mark83

1,165 posts

202 months

Tuesday 7th June 2022
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Strava estimates your watts based on your weight and speed but only a power meter on your bike gives worthwhile power data. I wouldn't worry about that for now though.

Solocle

3,303 posts

85 months

Tuesday 7th June 2022
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WhisperingWasp said:
I do quite like the idea of having tyres with Continental on the sides!

On the power thing is that the watts in your Strava? Mine is set to mph (but I suppose if my average speed is going up that is a similar measure).
I use Conti GP 4 Seasons. Not all out racing tyres like the 5Ks. But I have a set of 5Ks... was getting punctures virtually every ride. Depends where you're riding really.

Mark83

1,165 posts

202 months

Tuesday 7th June 2022
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Strava estimates your watts based on your weight and speed but only a power meter on your bike gives worthwhile power data. I wouldn't worry about that for now though.