Sore rear Help!

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Stevemr

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541 posts

156 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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So wife and I have bought mountain bikes, we are both reasonably fit 60 yr olds. We have used them a few times, to be honest, I find using a bike on the road terrifying. I feel a lot safer on my Suzuki 1400.
However when we find a cycle track or canal bank it’s a nice way to get some exercise. We are quite happy to potter along for the odd 20 mile ride.
But, not to put to fine a point on it, it hurts your backside. We bought a comfort saddle for her and a stretchy seat cover for mine, but it still hurts!
So what’s the answer?

Kes Arevo

3,555 posts

39 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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Get some padded cycling shorts. They make a huge difference.

Also make sure your saddle is in the right position, so your hips aren't moving too much, or you are constantly fighting your arse sliding forward, or back.

EdmondDantes

313 posts

141 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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You need to get bib shorts with a gel or padded insert.

https://www.tredz.co.uk/.Endura-Xtract-Gel-Cycling...

Portofino

4,286 posts

191 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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Yep, padded shorts, longs are a must.

Big saddles also are a no no for decent mileages. Get an SDG Bel Air, you’ll be sorted.



RoadToad84

663 posts

34 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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Part of it is just acclimatisation. The first few rides hurt like hell, but over time, your body gets used to the pressure and your muscles around your sit bones develop. Fit is equally important though.

frisbee

4,979 posts

110 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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You can get padded undershorts, if you don't fancy prancing around in Lycra getting motorists excited.

Ditch the saddle cover as well. You want a saddle that is the right width for your sit bones, which is often narrower than what comes on more leisurely oriented bikes.

There is an unavoidable delay of your body getting used to it again though.

Barchettaman

6,309 posts

132 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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Try a Brooks Cambium saddle.

mrtomsv

770 posts

239 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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Just to expand on a few things that have been said. Padded shorts are worn without underwear. They won’t work as intended otherwise. The pad can be enhanced with the use of chamois cream. A really important but often poo pooed concept is that a harder saddle will ultimately be more comfortable once you’ve acclimatised to it. A big soft, squishy ‘leisure’ saddle will cause pressure on all your soft, squishy bits as you sink into it. A firm, correct width for your sit bones, saddle will support you properly. Once combined with time in the saddle to get used to it, and a good pair of padded shorts, it will be by far the comfiest long term option.

Also I’ve heard good things about the Brookes saddle too, though never used one. I may have one for sale soon as my new bike, I think, comes with one. Message me if interested. I should have it by the end of the month.

Tabs

942 posts

272 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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As everyone else has said, plus make sure the saddle is horizontal, using a spirit level.

OutInTheShed

7,600 posts

26 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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Take your weight off the saddle over the bumps?

mike9009

7,007 posts

243 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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RoadToad84 said:
Part of it is just acclimatisation. The first few rides hurt like hell, but over time, your body gets used to the pressure and your muscles around your sit bones develop. Fit is equally important though.
I agree with this,. I started cycling again after about 25 years out the saddle. First couple of rides, I was in agony from the saddle. I bought various padded shorts etc., but after about five rides, my butt was fine without any padding. ( doing about 26 miles per ride)

irc

7,306 posts

136 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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Padded shorts are not essential. I don't use them. I use lycra boxers (sold by Decathlon as running boxers) under Ron Hill tracksters.

Saddle are very much personal choice. As said above too soft doesn't work. Your weight needs to be on your sit bones not surrounding soft tissue.

Getting the right width matters. I use 175mm saddles but I'm 6ft3 so taller and wider than the average person.

Cycling posture matters as well. The more upright your posture the wider the saddle.

I prefer saddles with a a little padding

Saddle angle matters. Start level and see how you are getting on. If you feel you are sliding forward the. angling the saddle slightly back. May help.

https://www.bikeradar.com/advice/buyers-guides/how...


PastelNata

4,416 posts

200 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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Saddle choice is a very personal one and you really need to try different brands, shapes. It isn't easy for others to recommend. Once people find a saddle that works really well for them, they often stick with that Brand and shape forever. Pro's do this - new bike every year, same saddle.

I prefer a firm saddle with a cut-out; Selle Italia being my favourite brand.

Initially, we all suffer from saddle soreness but this goes away if you cycle frequently enough. I wear bib shorts and tights with a good quality chamois that are comfortable for 2-9 hours riding at a time. Like everything, you pay for quality so the longer you ride, the more you would benefit from high quality materials. If you suffer from chafing, then chamois cream can help.

andyeds1234

2,280 posts

170 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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irc said:
Padded shorts are not essential. I don't use them. I use lycra boxers (sold by Decathlon as running boxers) under Ron Hill tracksters.
Not essential, but there’s a very good reason why anyone who spends a reasonable amount of time on a bike uses them, and that’s the crux of the OPs issue.


irc

7,306 posts

136 months

Monday 13th March 2023
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andyeds1234 said:
irc said:
Padded shorts are not essential. I don't use them. I use lycra boxers (sold by Decathlon as running boxers) under Ron Hill tracksters.
Not essential, but there’s a very good reason why anyone who spends a reasonable amount of time on a bike uses them, and that’s the crux of the OPs issue.
Well 6 to 10 hours a day in the saddle when touring is a reasonable amount of time I think. I get on fine without padded shorts.

As above - personal choice and another option for the OP to try.

andyeds1234

2,280 posts

170 months

Monday 13th March 2023
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irc said:
andyeds1234 said:
irc said:
Padded shorts are not essential. I don't use them. I use lycra boxers (sold by Decathlon as running boxers) under Ron Hill tracksters.
Not essential, but there’s a very good reason why anyone who spends a reasonable amount of time on a bike uses them, and that’s the crux of the OPs issue.
Well 6 to 10 hours a day in the saddle when touring is a reasonable amount of time I think. I get on fine without padded shorts.

As above - personal choice and another option for the OP to try.
You are pretty unique if you are comfortable riding for 6 to 10 hours without cycling shorts.
Unless you have a unique anatomy, I can’t see how anyone would have a preference for underpants and trackie bottoms, over tried and tested kit.

Choice is one thing, how that pans out in the real world is another.

PastelNata

4,416 posts

200 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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irc said:
Well 6 to 10 hours a day in the saddle when touring is a reasonable amount of time I think. I get on fine without padded shorts.

As above - personal choice and another option for the OP to try.
I would spend a whole day out cycling on my BMX as a kid - no padded shorts either. Once used to the saddle with regular rides, they aren't necessary, as you say, but they do make a ride more comfortable nonetheless and if we do more than touring pace, they are much more comfortable. I wouldn't train or race without them at circa 20-25mph for 5hr Gran Fondos with lots of lumpy terrain.

stargazer30

1,592 posts

166 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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Op do these.
1. Buy cycle shorts with padding and go commando, no underwear with them on.
2. Invest in a suntour ncx seat post which will absorb shock through the seat post
3. Measure your sit bones and get a saddle of the correct width for your butt.


Stevemr

Original Poster:

541 posts

156 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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Thanks for everyone for replying, much appreciated.
I don’t really want to wear cycle shorts, want to be able to cycle somewhere and then wander around in normal gear. Will definitely look into underwear.
I get using it more often will build up resistance, but realistically it’s a matter of taking them on holiday and using them in odd days.
Stupid question, but what exactly are sir bones and how do you measure them?

Kes Arevo

3,555 posts

39 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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Stevemr said:
Thanks for everyone for replying, much appreciated.
I don’t really want to wear cycle shorts, want to be able to cycle somewhere and then wander around in normal gear. Will definitely look into underwear.
I get using it more often will build up resistance, but realistically it’s a matter of taking them on holiday and using them in odd days.
Stupid question, but what exactly are sir bones and how do you measure them?
I wear cycling shorts, and have thin shorts on the top, so you don't look like an 80's aerobic instructor.

No-one even knows you have them on.