Shimano Component Confusion

Shimano Component Confusion

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sparkythecat

Original Poster:

7,905 posts

256 months

Wednesday 8th August 2007
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Been thinking about buying a new bike but am confused about Shimano components.

In terms of cost and quality what order do these go in ?

SIS
Altera
Alivio
Deore
LX
XT
Altus
STI

Have I missed any?

thehappyotter

800 posts

203 months

Wednesday 8th August 2007
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This is shamelessly cut and pasted from Wikipedia:

Road bicycle groupsets

For 2006, road bicycle groupsets include:

* Dura-Ace (10 speed)
* Ultegra (10 speed)
* 105 (10 speed)
* Tiagra (9 speed with redesigned "10 speed" hood shape for 2007)
* Sora (8 speed)
* 2200 (8 speed)

Mountain bike groupsets

Current mountain bike groupsets include:

* XTR (9 speed) - Top of the range for cross-country mountain bikes
* Deore XT (9 speed)
* Deore LX (9 speed)
* Deore (9 speed)
* Saint (9 speed) - Top of the range for downhill and freeride bikes, and many components are based on the XT groupset
* Hone (9 speed) - Cheaper downhill/freeride specific groupset, similar to the LX groupset
* Alivio (8 speed)
* Acera (8 speed)
* Altus (8 speed)
* Tourney (7 speed) - Includes several different levels of quality, and can be found on department-store bicycles

neil_bolton

17,113 posts

265 months

Wednesday 8th August 2007
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Theres DX too - a BMX groupset - but used to be the MTB groupset stuck between LX and XT biggrin


snotrag

14,470 posts

212 months

Wednesday 8th August 2007
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sparkythecat said:
Have I missed any?
Hell yeah you've missed some...



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deevlash

10,442 posts

238 months

Thursday 9th August 2007
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snotrag said:
sparkythecat said:
Have I missed any?
Hell yeah you've missed some...



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wibble biggrin

pdV6

16,442 posts

262 months

Thursday 9th August 2007
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deevlash said:
dribble biggrin
Edited for accuracy

neil_bolton

17,113 posts

265 months

Thursday 9th August 2007
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deevlash said:
snotrag said:
sparkythecat said:
Have I missed any?
Hell yeah you've missed some...



biggrin
wibble biggrin
Hubba Hubba.

Actually, this will be more Hubba Hubba:



Hubba Hubba! 2008 XTR biggrin

Pigfarmer3

191 posts

206 months

Thursday 9th August 2007
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Aagghh.

The shameless copy and paste of ideas from the roady scene. We've had carbon fibre all over our components for years. Check out the Campag Record stuff..

(It's lees hubba hubba than, whops I've just cum. Haha)

neil_bolton

17,113 posts

265 months

Thursday 9th August 2007
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Pigfarmer3 said:
Aagghh.

The shameless copy and paste of ideas from the roady scene. We've had carbon fibre all over our components for years. Check out the Campag Record stuff..

(It's lees hubba hubba than, whops I've just cum. Haha)
Really? Funny that, have you had inboard mechs yet? The only reason why we haven't effectively used carbon in certain conponents is impact strength: We could run carbon one everything (I try and have done so for years) however seeing as we frequently rip rear mechs off for a pasttime, I'd hazard thats why we haven't had a carbon XTR mech until now.

Never mind the fact that we have rapidrise, the new shadow mechs, etc - all things not found on road bikes.

If anything, the roadie scene is more static in technology - not embracing change so well as the MTB market...

You may jest at us only just 'discovering' carbon - but remember that I'm tooling about on a 11 year old carbon full suspension frame (as is Pete) - which was in full production back then.

How many road frame builders, barring Trek, offered carbon frames back then? Who ripped who off?


snotrag

14,470 posts

212 months

Thursday 9th August 2007
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Yes, but roadies dont generally smash their rear mechs off rocks, do they?

The new stuff is the 'shadow' mechs, they dont stick out further than the drop out, really nice.

Theres been composites in use on mountainbikes aswell for years, however its less popular as it needs to be resistant to impact aswell as strong and light.

snotrag

14,470 posts

212 months

Thursday 9th August 2007
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Wow, great minds think alike Neil!

pdV6

16,442 posts

262 months

Thursday 9th August 2007
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neil_bolton said:
seeing as we frequently rip rear mechs off for a pasttime
Well, you do anyway! smile

DBSV8

5,958 posts

239 months

Saturday 11th August 2007
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Campagnola Record


Campagnolo Record
The most technological groupset for racing bicycles. The Campagnolo Record groupset is incomparable and a glance will tell you why. But the Campagnolo Record groupset does not just have outstanding esthetic appeal. It contains an unprecedented concentration of technology.
The use of the technology of composite materials enables components with reduced weight and greater mechanical resistance to be obtained.
Not to mention the flexible design and solutions reached that would be impossible with aluminum.
The materials have been chosen and specially made for each single component

fantastic bit of kit

SkinnyBoy

4,635 posts

259 months

Saturday 11th August 2007
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Shimtournolo pffft...

Sturmey Archer's where its at tongue out





When i was a lad, and XT rapid fire shifters first came out, we always changed them for upside down Suntour XC ones, as the shimano stuff forever broke, is it any better now. I remember the price as well when it came out... good job Claude Crimes used to sponsor us



Edited by SkinnyBoy on Saturday 11th August 07:50

BadgerBenji

3,524 posts

219 months

Sunday 12th August 2007
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Shimano no thanks, SRAM all the way.

Roman

2,031 posts

220 months

Sunday 12th August 2007
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neil_bolton said:
Pigfarmer3 said:
Aagghh.

The shameless copy and paste of ideas from the roady scene. We've had carbon fibre all over our components for years. Check out the Campag Record stuff..

(It's lees hubba hubba than, whops I've just cum. Haha)
Really? Funny that, have you had inboard mechs yet? The only reason why we haven't effectively used carbon in certain conponents is impact strength: We could run carbon one everything (I try and have done so for years) however seeing as we frequently rip rear mechs off for a pasttime, I'd hazard thats why we haven't had a carbon XTR mech until now.

Never mind the fact that we have rapidrise, the new shadow mechs, etc - all things not found on road bikes.

If anything, the roadie scene is more static in technology - not embracing change so well as the MTB market...

You may jest at us only just 'discovering' carbon - but remember that I'm tooling about on a 11 year old carbon full suspension frame (as is Pete) - which was in full production back then.

How many road frame builders, barring Trek, offered carbon frames back then? Who ripped who off?
The first Carbon bike frame was manufactured in 1976 (track bike) and Alan and Vitus were producing carbon road frames in the mid 1980s, Look & TVT producing carbon monocoque frames in the late 80's / early 90's.

I agree that some applications are less suitable for carbon on an mtb. I think the UCI has restricted a lot of roadbike development and design innovation.

Not interested in a roadie vs mtb debate myself though - I'm into both (though I do prefer Campag for the road!)

Saddle bum

4,211 posts

220 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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Nobody has ever got laid 'cos they rode Shimano.

Saddle bum

4,211 posts

220 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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DBSV8 said:
Campagnola Record


Campagnolo Record
The most technological groupset for racing bicycles. The Campagnolo Record groupset is incomparable and a glance will tell you why. But the Campagnolo Record groupset does not just have outstanding esthetic appeal. It contains an unprecedented concentration of technology.
The use of the technology of composite materials enables components with reduced weight and greater mechanical resistance to be obtained.
Not to mention the flexible design and solutions reached that would be impossible with aluminum.
The materials have been chosen and specially made for each single component

fantastic bit of kit
That is porn. lick

R1 GTR

2,152 posts

214 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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pdV6 said:
neil_bolton said:
seeing as we frequently rip rear mechs off for a pasttime
Well, you do anyway! smile
Mechbusters hehe

getmecoat

DBSV8

5,958 posts

239 months

Tuesday 14th August 2007
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Saddle bum said:
DBSV8 said:
Campagnola Record


Campagnolo Record
The most technological groupset for racing bicycles. The Campagnolo Record groupset is incomparable and a glance will tell you why. But the Campagnolo Record groupset does not just have outstanding esthetic appeal. It contains an unprecedented concentration of technology.
The use of the technology of composite materials enables components with reduced weight and greater mechanical resistance to be obtained.
Not to mention the flexible design and solutions reached that would be impossible with aluminum.
The materials have been chosen and specially made for each single component

fantastic bit of kit
That is porn. lick
great added to one of these
http://sports.webshots.com/photo/26336657300822081...