Very hard and bumpy ride

Very hard and bumpy ride

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Dizeee

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18,345 posts

207 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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I bought myself a Specialized Hardrock Sport a few months ago and have been enjoying long and nimble single track rides off road.

However, I can't help but feel the bike is bone shakingly hard. It is a hardtail but at times I struggle to stay on the thing it is so hard. I find it worst when navigating field tracks or going over certain parts of canal towpaths where the ground has an uneven camber. I am an experienced and fit rider but have found my body being repeatedly thrown off the seat and my feet likewise unless I poised above the seat.

Is it just a feature of hardtailsand should I have gone full suspension?

Jimbo.

3,949 posts

190 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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That's hardtails. Too much pressure in the rear tyre doesn't help. Else, just get out of the saddle and stay nice 'n' loose: let the bike take the hits and move around...

Edited by Jimbo. on Monday 22 June 19:14

longblackcoat

5,047 posts

184 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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Tyre pressures may well be your problem, as suggested above. If that doesn't sort it, you could try slightly larger volume tyres which will give more cushioning.

WildCards

4,061 posts

218 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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Yes, it is hardtails. Trouble with adjusting the tyre pressures is too hard and you get a firmer ride, too soft and you run the risk of pinch flats, personally I run 32ish PSi.

The trick is to identify potential rough terrain in front of you and take your weight with your legs, not your bum. This doesn't necessarily mean you need to stand up, just lift your arse an inch off the saddle and let the bike move underneath you, you'll find you're quicker over the rough stuff and more comfortable at the same time.

Marcellus

7,120 posts

220 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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Should have gone full sus!!

But you didn't so you've got to use your legs at the shocks, just lifting your butt off the seat without moving your body weight forward!

Dizeee

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18,345 posts

207 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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Bloody ard work is what it is! But probably better for my fitness scratchchin

Marcellus

7,120 posts

220 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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Dizz... just rember the sooner the ride is over the sooner you can get back to your donuts I mean work!! biggrin

Dizeee

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18,345 posts

207 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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biggrin Work? What work!

I have been in twice since June the 5th and I am not back in now until Friday wink

Kermit power

28,672 posts

214 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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Fancy meeting up for a ride some time Diz?

I was out for a couple of hours this evening, and will be out again on Thursday evening - something I'm trying to do every week. I usually ride on either Holmbury or Leith hills - 100% off road, and lots of nice, swoopy single track.

Needless to say, you'll nuke me on fitness levels, but I can keep up enough of a pace that you won't get too bored hanging around waiting! hehe

Ride for a couple of hours, then grab a drink and a sandwich in a pub?

Dizeee

Original Poster:

18,345 posts

207 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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Could be up for that but cant do this week. Following week may be good though....

Kermit power

28,672 posts

214 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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Dizeee said:
Could be up for that but cant do this week. Following week may be good though....
OK. I'll drop you an email on Monday once I know I'll be out. Shouldn't be a problem so long as the kids haven't been playing up too much!

Needless to say, if anyone else can get to the Dorking area and wants to join us, just shout.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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You shouldnt be on your seat... biggrin

Dudd

963 posts

193 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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Dizee, I thought you were Pirbright based? there should be some trails around there.

I don't know of any but I'm Frimley so if your up for a local ride(ooh err) let me know.

Dizeee

Original Poster:

18,345 posts

207 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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I have explored Pirbright and many of the surrounding areas but I am still in Woking until we actually move in.

Kermit power

28,672 posts

214 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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swerni said:
Kermit power said:
Fancy meeting up for a ride some time Diz?

I was out for a couple of hours this evening, and will be out again on Thursday evening - something I'm trying to do every week. I usually ride on either Holmbury or Leith hills - 100% off road, and lots of nice, swoopy single track.

Needless to say, you'll nuke me on fitness levels, but I can keep up enough of a pace that you won't get too bored hanging around waiting! hehe

Ride for a couple of hours, then grab a drink and a sandwich in a pub?
if you're doing Leith Hills count me in. smile

Other than the canal path, I never know where to ride off road
I've dropped you an email.

prand

5,916 posts

197 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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Aluminium frame can give a harsh ride too. Steel, scandium and titanium flex much more forgivingly.

Dizeee

Original Poster:

18,345 posts

207 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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Harsh - yes thats an understatement!

I have time tonight for a quick blat at 6 down towards Addlestone from Woking so will just spend more time off the seat and see the results. They towpath I use has various terrains as by Sheerwater there is a load of buidling works so a period of seriously bumpy and harsh solidified mud, then there are patches of deep sand that last for a a few minutes that are difficult to get through.

Dizeee

Original Poster:

18,345 posts

207 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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swerni said:
Dizeee said:
Harsh - yes thats an understatement!

I have time tonight for a quick blat at 6 down towards Addlestone from Woking so will just spend more time off the seat and see the results. They towpath I use has various terrains as by Sheerwater there is a load of buidling works so a period of seriously bumpy and harsh solidified mud, then there are patches of deep sand that last for a a few minutes that are difficult to get through.
watch out for the nettles, it's getting very overgrown
That was my next comment.

In Send they have implemented metal swivel grills to prevent cyclists going across country to Westfield.

As a result of recent rides I have donned tracky bottoms - did it yesterday, shorts are a very bad move. Even then I have to go one handed at times to prevent injury.

My main issue is bugs. I now wear sunnies and a cap as I am pelted like a car with bugs to the point that I have to continually dust off.

Dizeee

Original Poster:

18,345 posts

207 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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Third puncture in around 5 weeks. Ridiculous. Each time this has happened it has been when I have been doing fast single track on namby pamby canal tow paths, hardly rough stuff. The tyres seem to deflate at the mere sight of anything other than concrete.

I think I am going to clean it up and sell it and buy a better bike. Problem is that despite having decent bikes in the past I never used them properly off road or riode as much as I am now, and I have gone cheaper with the current bike yet doing off roading to a higher standard e.t.c.

Marcellus

7,120 posts

220 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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Diz - are they pinch flats or holes?

> if holes when you get a puncture are you locating the hole in the tube and then finding (and removing) the cause from the tyre?
> regardless of cause what PSI are you running with and a higher PSI will reduce punctures!!

ALso a "better bike" won't reduce punctures... better tyres or slimed tubes might!