Just Built my First Bike! Couple of issues.
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Just Finished building my first bike up, had helped (watched) a friend previously build my Cove Stiffee but woke up this morning and decided to build my Hustler (as noone seemed to want to buy it!)
This is it, most parts are off the old bike apart from the Chainset and Headset;
I have a couple of issues;
1. The Rear wheel doesn't seem to want to go in fully, is there a method to this? It's almost there just wont go the final bit, have bounced it on the rear wheel, and put some pressure on but it doesn't want to go..... obviously this means I can't get the gears set up....
2. Does this look right? It looks like a cup on the Suspension but I couldn't shift it!
Also does anyone know of a good guide for setting up the gears (Front and Rear)
Thanks
Tom
This is it, most parts are off the old bike apart from the Chainset and Headset;
I have a couple of issues;
1. The Rear wheel doesn't seem to want to go in fully, is there a method to this? It's almost there just wont go the final bit, have bounced it on the rear wheel, and put some pressure on but it doesn't want to go..... obviously this means I can't get the gears set up....
2. Does this look right? It looks like a cup on the Suspension but I couldn't shift it!
Also does anyone know of a good guide for setting up the gears (Front and Rear)
Thanks
Tom
1. Without seeing it, it is hard to say. Anything could be in the way,
i. The hub could be slightly to wide meaning yuo may have to pull the frame apart to get it to slot in, but this is unlikely.
ii. The disk could be wedged against the bottom of the caliper stopping the wheel moving up.
iii. the tyre could be stuck against the frame at the top meaning it can't go in any further.
iv. the quick release could be to tight.
v. there could be a washer or something on the axle in the way.
2. That is a bearing race. I assume you had those forks in a different frame before. It looks like it comes from a completely different headset to your hope one. Not being familiar with hope one was there anything you left off, does it still appear to be working properly?
If it is still working properly then the race is surplus to requirements and needs to come off before it damages the seals on the bottom of the hope headset. There is usually a little notch on the back of the forks where you can carefully get a screwdriver in and tap off the race. Alternatively take the forks to a bike shop and they should be able to remove it.
hope this helps!
i. The hub could be slightly to wide meaning yuo may have to pull the frame apart to get it to slot in, but this is unlikely.
ii. The disk could be wedged against the bottom of the caliper stopping the wheel moving up.
iii. the tyre could be stuck against the frame at the top meaning it can't go in any further.
iv. the quick release could be to tight.
v. there could be a washer or something on the axle in the way.
2. That is a bearing race. I assume you had those forks in a different frame before. It looks like it comes from a completely different headset to your hope one. Not being familiar with hope one was there anything you left off, does it still appear to be working properly?
If it is still working properly then the race is surplus to requirements and needs to come off before it damages the seals on the bottom of the hope headset. There is usually a little notch on the back of the forks where you can carefully get a screwdriver in and tap off the race. Alternatively take the forks to a bike shop and they should be able to remove it.
hope this helps!
Agree with the above, looks like you have a different lower race that is not designed for your headset. Hope do sell spares - http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?Par... but you need to get the right model for your headset. Probably best to get a bike shop to take a look at it
Thanks for the replies, I will look into the wheel problem in the tomorrow, they fitted my previous hustler no problem which had the same set up.....
The Head Set is brand new, I assume this should include all the parts I needed? I will remove the forks and have another go at removing it.....
The Head Set is brand new, I assume this should include all the parts I needed? I will remove the forks and have another go at removing it.....
The lower race fits over the fork, and should fit flush with the lower bearing set on the headset itself. Looks like you have the wrong lower race on the fork itself.
There should be a small notch on the race, pop a tiny screwdriver in and gently tap all the way round with a hammer to get the race off.
There should be a small notch on the race, pop a tiny screwdriver in and gently tap all the way round with a hammer to get the race off.
itsnotarace said:
The lower race fits over the fork, and should fit flush with the lower bearing set on the headset itself. Looks like you have the wrong lower race on the fork itself.
There should be a small notch on the race, pop a tiny screwdriver in and gently tap all the way round with a hammer to get the race off.
So this lower race, should it be included in the Hope Headset kit? Looking at the link above I have a part like that on just have this other part on too, not sure the one with the hope set fitted as tightly....There should be a small notch on the race, pop a tiny screwdriver in and gently tap all the way round with a hammer to get the race off.
Looks like you've got the old crown race on the forks still. The part above (with the gap in it) is presumably the crown race that came with the new headset.
The crown race is always supplied with the headset, not the forks.
As for the rear wheel, I'd take the skewer out and try again. Then take the disc off and try. Should be fairly obvious if you look at it from a few angles what's wrong.
Park Tools have lots of excellent guides on their site for doing various jobs: http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help
The crown race is always supplied with the headset, not the forks.
As for the rear wheel, I'd take the skewer out and try again. Then take the disc off and try. Should be fairly obvious if you look at it from a few angles what's wrong.
Park Tools have lots of excellent guides on their site for doing various jobs: http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help
itsnotarace said:
There will be one included with the Hope kit yes. It just looks like you have an old one on there as well, leftover from another bike
Yeah these forks were used previously with a different Headset, will have a go at removing it in the morning! - Just had a quick look, there doesn't seem to be a notch but if I know it'll come off then I'll get it off somehow!Just looked at the wheel again, there seems to be nothing stopping it from going in, it just doesn't want to go any further than it is - my previous hustler was built by the shop and my stiffee was second hand so I didn't know if it was something to do with it being new (Paint thickness? would that make a difference? may just need to file a little off?)
sjg said:
Looks like you've got the old crown race on the forks still. The part above (with the gap in it) is presumably the crown race that came with the new headset.
The crown race is always supplied with the headset, not the forks.
As for the rear wheel, I'd take the skewer out and try again. Then take the disc off and try. Should be fairly obvious if you look at it from a few angles what's wrong.
Park Tools have lots of excellent guides on their site for doing various jobs: http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help
Yep, I've just had a look at the insturctions, that part is described as the Fork Crown Race....The crown race is always supplied with the headset, not the forks.
As for the rear wheel, I'd take the skewer out and try again. Then take the disc off and try. Should be fairly obvious if you look at it from a few angles what's wrong.
Park Tools have lots of excellent guides on their site for doing various jobs: http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help
I was thinking of removing the Disc/Caliper in the morning so that could be eliminated - as above there doesn't appear to be anything hindering the wheel...
waughie said:
1. Without seeing it, it is hard to say. Anything could be in the way,
i. The hub could be slightly to wide meaning yuo may have to pull the frame apart to get it to slot in, but this is unlikely.
ii. The disk could be wedged against the bottom of the caliper stopping the wheel moving up.
iii. the tyre could be stuck against the frame at the top meaning it can't go in any further.
iv. the quick release could be to tight.
v. there could be a washer or something on the axle in the way.
2. That is a bearing race. I assume you had those forks in a different frame before. It looks like it comes from a completely different headset to your hope one. Not being familiar with hope one was there anything you left off, does it still appear to be working properly?
If it is still working properly then the race is surplus to requirements and needs to come off before it damages the seals on the bottom of the hope headset. There is usually a little notch on the back of the forks where you can carefully get a screwdriver in and tap off the race. Alternatively take the forks to a bike shop and they should be able to remove it.
hope this helps!
Just tried all the above with the wheel but it's still not going in fully! Its really annoying as I'm sure its something simple! It just seems like the slot is too tight for the axle if that makes sense.i. The hub could be slightly to wide meaning yuo may have to pull the frame apart to get it to slot in, but this is unlikely.
ii. The disk could be wedged against the bottom of the caliper stopping the wheel moving up.
iii. the tyre could be stuck against the frame at the top meaning it can't go in any further.
iv. the quick release could be to tight.
v. there could be a washer or something on the axle in the way.
2. That is a bearing race. I assume you had those forks in a different frame before. It looks like it comes from a completely different headset to your hope one. Not being familiar with hope one was there anything you left off, does it still appear to be working properly?
If it is still working properly then the race is surplus to requirements and needs to come off before it damages the seals on the bottom of the hope headset. There is usually a little notch on the back of the forks where you can carefully get a screwdriver in and tap off the race. Alternatively take the forks to a bike shop and they should be able to remove it.
hope this helps!
Got the forks sorted though now
shalmaneser said:
cheadle hulme said:
You'd be better off paying a shop a fiver to put the races on properly. You don't want a nice Hope headset ruining due to poor alignment.
This, but it's too late now. Hopefully you've removed the lower bearing race from the fork and not done too much damage.Gassing Station | Pedal Powered | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff