1.5 VTEC Turbo Sport
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I'm picking one up soon and have done a bit of research. Everywhere seems to sing praise for it, not really found any negatives.
Apparently people get an oil dilution issue, but this only seems to be in the USA for some reason.
People in the UK are getting failing turbos on the 1.0 version but I can't find any reports on the 1.5.
It comes with a 12 month dealer warranty but its if its worth paying for one still after, I've had one on my Cupra at quite a cost incase because of how expensive repairs are... I managed to get an £800 water pump done on it.
Anybody have any first hand experience?
Apparently people get an oil dilution issue, but this only seems to be in the USA for some reason.
People in the UK are getting failing turbos on the 1.0 version but I can't find any reports on the 1.5.
It comes with a 12 month dealer warranty but its if its worth paying for one still after, I've had one on my Cupra at quite a cost incase because of how expensive repairs are... I managed to get an £800 water pump done on it.
Anybody have any first hand experience?
I have a 2018 Civic 1.5 Prestige and can only say i've been delighted with it.Comfortable,reliable,reasonable to maintain (service costs) and spirited enough to press on when you need to cover motorway miles and economical ( recent 1600 mile return trip to south west France and averaged 49 mpg ).
Negatives - noisy aircon issue which was a recall item, fixed FOC with no fuss.
They may not be the most exciting car but i'm not sure I can find another car similar in class that I would prefer ( FL5 Type R obviously not comparable !! ).
Negatives - noisy aircon issue which was a recall item, fixed FOC with no fuss.
They may not be the most exciting car but i'm not sure I can find another car similar in class that I would prefer ( FL5 Type R obviously not comparable !! ).
Sounds good.
I'm coming from a DSG Cupra 280 which I guess is comparable to the Type R version, I've been doing 3k miles a year the last few years so I just don't need the power and the cost anymore.
I saw a couple of Prestige for the same price and I like the leather seats but I like the all black accents and centre exhausts on the Sport, its a marmite car but I think it stands out nicely amongst so many hum drum cars around now.
I'm coming from a DSG Cupra 280 which I guess is comparable to the Type R version, I've been doing 3k miles a year the last few years so I just don't need the power and the cost anymore.
I saw a couple of Prestige for the same price and I like the leather seats but I like the all black accents and centre exhausts on the Sport, its a marmite car but I think it stands out nicely amongst so many hum drum cars around now.
I have a facelift 21 Sport, as a commuter car doing around 35K a year. It has been faultless. I don’t think it gets cold enough the UK for oil dilutions issues, and then only if you make very short journeys.
The 1.5 gives pretty much the same MPG at motorway speed as the 1.0, and it has a chain rather than belt. I have the very common Bluespark box fitted which lifts boost a bit and gives useful extra torque, yet mpg remains the same for me.
I would imagine any work requiring a warranty would have showed it head and been sorted by now, so wouldn’t pay extra for one.
The 1.5 gives pretty much the same MPG at motorway speed as the 1.0, and it has a chain rather than belt. I have the very common Bluespark box fitted which lifts boost a bit and gives useful extra torque, yet mpg remains the same for me.
I would imagine any work requiring a warranty would have showed it head and been sorted by now, so wouldn’t pay extra for one.
Subculture said:
I have a facelift 21 Sport, as a commuter car doing around 35K a year. It has been faultless. I don’t think it gets cold enough the UK for oil dilutions issues, and then only if you make very short journeys.
The 1.5 gives pretty much the same MPG at motorway speed as the 1.0, and it has a chain rather than belt. I have the very common Bluespark box fitted which lifts boost a bit and gives useful extra torque, yet mpg remains the same for me.
I would imagine any work requiring a warranty would have showed it head and been sorted by now, so wouldn’t pay extra for one.
Just had a look at the Bluespark box, they quote pretty big gains! 182ps>240ps and the torque.The 1.5 gives pretty much the same MPG at motorway speed as the 1.0, and it has a chain rather than belt. I have the very common Bluespark box fitted which lifts boost a bit and gives useful extra torque, yet mpg remains the same for me.
I would imagine any work requiring a warranty would have showed it head and been sorted by now, so wouldn’t pay extra for one.
Also I forgot to add its a CVT box one, I've been in DSG for the past 10 years or so, never driven one yet but I'm expecting it to be much smoother but less sporty I guess.
I think the the car they used for the BHP figure reading 195 BHP stock, so best to think of it as an extra 45BHP rather 240BHP. That car was mapped with 99 Octane and the owner posts on one of the Civic forums. He now runs mainly in on 97 Octane and got an around 230BHP with same map. Still the improvement in torque it the most noticeable for me. mines a manual and and I do mainly motorway miles and with ACC I can now keep it in 6th gear even when traffic slows to 35mph and will pull just fine from there back to the speed limit without having to change gear.
Picked the car up and I'm happy with it.
It is as I expected, smooth drive and power is adequate but I've taken a huge hit in torque compared to the Cupra and I feel it.
The steering and handling of the car does still feel very sporty though and its a nice place to sit.
I'll look into getting the plug in box in the future if I need to take it up a notch.
It is as I expected, smooth drive and power is adequate but I've taken a huge hit in torque compared to the Cupra and I feel it.
The steering and handling of the car does still feel very sporty though and its a nice place to sit.
I'll look into getting the plug in box in the future if I need to take it up a notch.
TonyTony said:
Anybody else have an issue with the radar/alert thing?
Whenever it is raining or has been raining it beeps at me constantly everytime I stop, it keeps telling me something infront of me is moving when there is nothing.
That’s a known problem on some cars. The sensors don’t seal well in the grill and lets some water through. It’s a warranty replacement. And some have reported that Honda changed their grill for free even out of warranty.Whenever it is raining or has been raining it beeps at me constantly everytime I stop, it keeps telling me something infront of me is moving when there is nothing.
Edited by Subculture on Saturday 14th October 16:38
Subculture said:
That’s a known problem on some cars. The sensors don’t seal well in the grill and lets some water through. It’s a warranty replacement. And some have reported that Honda changed their grill for free even out of warranty.
Ah I'll see what the local dealer says about it.Edited by Subculture on Saturday 14th October 16:38
I do have a 1 year comp warranty buying it from a main dealer group as well though.
TonyTony said:
Sounds good.
I'm coming from a DSG Cupra 280 which I guess is comparable to the Type R version, I've been doing 3k miles a year the last few years so I just don't need the power and the cost anymore.
I saw a couple of Prestige for the same price and I like the leather seats but I like the all black accents and centre exhausts on the Sport, its a marmite car but I think it stands out nicely amongst so many hum drum cars around now.
Was it worth the swap? I had a 290 DSG and it was good on fuel, good to drive, perfect daily. I'm not really convinced you're going to save much really. Each to their own though.I'm coming from a DSG Cupra 280 which I guess is comparable to the Type R version, I've been doing 3k miles a year the last few years so I just don't need the power and the cost anymore.
I saw a couple of Prestige for the same price and I like the leather seats but I like the all black accents and centre exhausts on the Sport, its a marmite car but I think it stands out nicely amongst so many hum drum cars around now.
When I had the Leon my mate had a manual 1.5 Turbo Sport of the same era. Was a nice car but not a patch on the Cupra in any regard!
culpz said:
Was it worth the swap? I had a 290 DSG and it was good on fuel, good to drive, perfect daily. I'm not really convinced you're going to save much really. Each to their own though.
When I had the Leon my mate had a manual 1.5 Turbo Sport of the same era. Was a nice car but not a patch on the Cupra in any regard!
The Civic is exactly what I was looking for being a bit newer and more eco, but you're right about the difference, its not really massive.When I had the Leon my mate had a manual 1.5 Turbo Sport of the same era. Was a nice car but not a patch on the Cupra in any regard!
Its a good cruiser and I actually like the interior and the car more than a Leon but the CVT makes it feel like you have no control over your rate of acceleration which is strange but its quick enough, just nothing like the Cupra.
There were a few other factors involved which make it make sense to me also so I don't regret the swap.
TonyTony said:
culpz said:
Was it worth the swap? I had a 290 DSG and it was good on fuel, good to drive, perfect daily. I'm not really convinced you're going to save much really. Each to their own though.
When I had the Leon my mate had a manual 1.5 Turbo Sport of the same era. Was a nice car but not a patch on the Cupra in any regard!
The Civic is exactly what I was looking for being a bit newer and more eco, but you're right about the difference, its not really massive.When I had the Leon my mate had a manual 1.5 Turbo Sport of the same era. Was a nice car but not a patch on the Cupra in any regard!
Its a good cruiser and I actually like the interior and the car more than a Leon but the CVT makes it feel like you have no control over your rate of acceleration which is strange but its quick enough, just nothing like the Cupra.
There were a few other factors involved which make it make sense to me also so I don't regret the swap.
Yeah, NGL, CVT would be a deal-breaker for me. But, I'd probably still take it over a manual.
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