Honda 2008 Type r GT - price range help
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Another update, you're all gonna get sick of me posting these updates so sorry in advance lol.
Went to view the 1st Honda (Bronze), stunning colour and the body is in great condition but I did not get to test drive it as never had time so I will list a few things below and if you have any advice on what I should do (i.e. barter for the price to go lower due to needing a new part) let me know.
1. inside looks very clean and nice, engine switched on and off a good few times sounds stunning.
2. Clutch sort of felt like not alot of room to move in comparison to my Astra SRI which has a nice clean feeling clutch all the way down, never had a Honda type R GT before so not sure if that is normal clutch style/feeling?
3.Lights had some white fading residue on them, like you can peel it off?
4. Wheel arches were clean and fantastic condition.
5. all 4 wheels need replaced, parts right at legal limit so he will take a few hundred off the price for me on this (currently has potenza's)
6. under the bonnet the engine paint is all faded/stripped away, I would like this redone to look nice etc in future as I want to really look after it.
7. Some green moss behind some of the lights in the actual fitting grooves behind the light itself so those would need removed and cleaned to get that out.
8. Sitting idle moving the gear stick all around felt smooth as but again no test drive done to try switching gears at high revs etc.
9. MOT history is fantastic.
10. could not see any rust anywhere however I did see a bit of the rubber seal along the top on the driver door was popped out a bit but when pushed back in it looks fine. Could not get a look under the car but from the MOT history and how it looked I think that should be fine?
11. Has a jap exhaust fitted which sounds awesome
12. Rev'd it up a bit while idle sounded great.
13. Passenger door handle plastic part loose on the edge/hanging off. I believe this part comes as a unit only and can be expensive? could maybe get away with a specific type of glue to glue it back on around the edge?
The dealer is offering a 1 month warranty which covers the engine, back axle and gear box so I was planning to maybe go for this car and then take it straight to a mechanic to get a good look over done.
Sorry for the long post, if anyone has any opinions on this please do let me know as any feedback to a noob Honda buyer is very much appreciated.
Thanks!
Went to view the 1st Honda (Bronze), stunning colour and the body is in great condition but I did not get to test drive it as never had time so I will list a few things below and if you have any advice on what I should do (i.e. barter for the price to go lower due to needing a new part) let me know.
1. inside looks very clean and nice, engine switched on and off a good few times sounds stunning.
2. Clutch sort of felt like not alot of room to move in comparison to my Astra SRI which has a nice clean feeling clutch all the way down, never had a Honda type R GT before so not sure if that is normal clutch style/feeling?
3.Lights had some white fading residue on them, like you can peel it off?
4. Wheel arches were clean and fantastic condition.
5. all 4 wheels need replaced, parts right at legal limit so he will take a few hundred off the price for me on this (currently has potenza's)
6. under the bonnet the engine paint is all faded/stripped away, I would like this redone to look nice etc in future as I want to really look after it.
7. Some green moss behind some of the lights in the actual fitting grooves behind the light itself so those would need removed and cleaned to get that out.
8. Sitting idle moving the gear stick all around felt smooth as but again no test drive done to try switching gears at high revs etc.
9. MOT history is fantastic.
10. could not see any rust anywhere however I did see a bit of the rubber seal along the top on the driver door was popped out a bit but when pushed back in it looks fine. Could not get a look under the car but from the MOT history and how it looked I think that should be fine?
11. Has a jap exhaust fitted which sounds awesome
12. Rev'd it up a bit while idle sounded great.
13. Passenger door handle plastic part loose on the edge/hanging off. I believe this part comes as a unit only and can be expensive? could maybe get away with a specific type of glue to glue it back on around the edge?
The dealer is offering a 1 month warranty which covers the engine, back axle and gear box so I was planning to maybe go for this car and then take it straight to a mechanic to get a good look over done.
Sorry for the long post, if anyone has any opinions on this please do let me know as any feedback to a noob Honda buyer is very much appreciated.
Thanks!
Edited by Stevie19 on Thursday 14th September 18:56
Edited by Stevie19 on Thursday 14th September 18:57
Unfortunately with these cars the only way to be sure is to give it a good test drive, it could look great but you could have a leaking shock absorber and a crunchy gearbox or clutch on the way out leaving you with something that handles like a boat and is awful to drive.
The rocker cover will look like that, mine is getting that way big no harm in getting it resprayed. The main thing for me would be check the oil level and the oil colour, then handling and clutch bite point and gearbox behavior.
Handling should be very firm,level and precise.
Gearbox notchy when cold is ok but should be up there with the best gearbox once warmed up. I still enjoy mine for that.
Clutch is short and stiff, the biting point is almost instant.
Also check for hesitation etc, as the spark plugs are very expensive but have a very long life on these. I did mine as soon as I got it (gambled with no service history) but they will be due on the milage and age you are looking at
The rocker cover will look like that, mine is getting that way big no harm in getting it resprayed. The main thing for me would be check the oil level and the oil colour, then handling and clutch bite point and gearbox behavior.
Handling should be very firm,level and precise.
Gearbox notchy when cold is ok but should be up there with the best gearbox once warmed up. I still enjoy mine for that.
Clutch is short and stiff, the biting point is almost instant.
Also check for hesitation etc, as the spark plugs are very expensive but have a very long life on these. I did mine as soon as I got it (gambled with no service history) but they will be due on the milage and age you are looking at
RichFN2 said:
Unfortunately with these cars the only way to be sure is to give it a good test drive, it could look great but you could have a leaking shock absorber and a crunchy gearbox or clutch on the way out leaving you with something that handles like a boat and is awful to drive.
The rocker cover will look like that, mine is getting that way big no harm in getting it resprayed. The main thing for me would be check the oil level and the oil colour, then handling and clutch bite point and gearbox behavior.
Handling should be very firm,level and precise.
Gearbox notchy when cold is ok but should be up there with the best gearbox once warmed up. I still enjoy mine for that.
Clutch is short and stiff, the biting point is almost instant.
Also check for hesitation etc, as the spark plugs are very expensive but have a very long life on these. I did mine as soon as I got it (gambled with no service history) but they will be due on the milage and age you are looking at
When I was starting the engine holding in that button it was kicking in fast and felt/sounded fine, sounded great actually lol, I will need to check the oil which is hopefully clear but if not I guess I could get money off for an oil change unless the last service was not long away and shows oil change/filters done etc then should be fine right?The rocker cover will look like that, mine is getting that way big no harm in getting it resprayed. The main thing for me would be check the oil level and the oil colour, then handling and clutch bite point and gearbox behavior.
Handling should be very firm,level and precise.
Gearbox notchy when cold is ok but should be up there with the best gearbox once warmed up. I still enjoy mine for that.
Clutch is short and stiff, the biting point is almost instant.
Also check for hesitation etc, as the spark plugs are very expensive but have a very long life on these. I did mine as soon as I got it (gambled with no service history) but they will be due on the milage and age you are looking at
Good to know about the clutch! the 1 month cover for the engine/gearbox and back axle is great because any issues I will hopefully know almost straight away taking the car out for a drive if I do decide to go for it, either way I plan to get it into a garage for a full look over which I think will cost me £40-£50 to get a mechanic to properly check over it.
Regarding the passenger door handle, the plastic part on opposite side from where you actually pull the handle to open the door is loose, will need to check on price to repair that.
Thanks for the advice!
So bit of an update folks, quite a funny review regarding the first Honda as the guy was trying to rip me off so bad, let me know what you think and if you think I was right to walk away from it.
They try to pass on damaged car part repairs to the customer trying to buy the car and then they increase the car by £400 mid deal.
Honda Type R GT Issues
1.Passenger door handle hanging off (Guy (Gordon) tells me "aww it works though" .........) For real mate? like really something is defective/broken and you say that?
2.All 4 tyres completely bald on the sides and I mean absolutely flat and the guy has the stones to stand there and say "it passed MOT" 3 months ago while I'm actually staring at totally bald tyres on the sides, all 4 of them, complete disgrace.
3. Green moss build up behind lights and light coating all peeling off/murky colours.
4. Has no idea on service history if things like Springs/bolts for the suspension being checked other than "it passed MOT". No insight as to the state of the actual engine with valves etc.
The guy (Gordon) actually tries to justify broken parts with "but it works" lol, guy's a right joker I think.
Funny thing was I actually made an offer of 4k providing they atleast change the tyres to standard at minimum as I didn't want to take the hit on something I believe they should have changed before trying to sell it, then he adds £400 to the price minutes after our call so when I seen he done that I told them where to go.
They try to pass on damaged car part repairs to the customer trying to buy the car and then they increase the car by £400 mid deal.
Honda Type R GT Issues
1.Passenger door handle hanging off (Guy (Gordon) tells me "aww it works though" .........) For real mate? like really something is defective/broken and you say that?
2.All 4 tyres completely bald on the sides and I mean absolutely flat and the guy has the stones to stand there and say "it passed MOT" 3 months ago while I'm actually staring at totally bald tyres on the sides, all 4 of them, complete disgrace.
3. Green moss build up behind lights and light coating all peeling off/murky colours.
4. Has no idea on service history if things like Springs/bolts for the suspension being checked other than "it passed MOT". No insight as to the state of the actual engine with valves etc.
The guy (Gordon) actually tries to justify broken parts with "but it works" lol, guy's a right joker I think.
Funny thing was I actually made an offer of 4k providing they atleast change the tyres to standard at minimum as I didn't want to take the hit on something I believe they should have changed before trying to sell it, then he adds £400 to the price minutes after our call so when I seen he done that I told them where to go.
Edited by Stevie19 on Friday 15th September 20:07
Walk. No need to buy a car from a place like that.
However, sadly, that will be the deal with many places. They want to do as little as possible to the car to maximise profit and they will disclaim knowledge of as much as possible to avoid comeback.
For what it’s worth, in my opinion, a months warranty is an alarm bell. I am not a lawyer, but I. believe you have six months protection under the Consumer Protection Act or something. That’s not the same as a warranty, but a month just says they’re trying to wash their hands of their customers as soon as they can. If they try to fob you off like that when buying, imagine what they’ll be like if you try to claim under the “warranty”.
I suspect part of the problem is that you cam across as an informed customer. In fact you probably know more about the model, and possibly even that example, than them. They’d rather sell to someone who will buy it because Type R and they’ll never hear from again.
Keep looking. To be honest, for that type of car at that type of price I’d be looking private. Have you tried owners forums and Facebook groups?
However, sadly, that will be the deal with many places. They want to do as little as possible to the car to maximise profit and they will disclaim knowledge of as much as possible to avoid comeback.
For what it’s worth, in my opinion, a months warranty is an alarm bell. I am not a lawyer, but I. believe you have six months protection under the Consumer Protection Act or something. That’s not the same as a warranty, but a month just says they’re trying to wash their hands of their customers as soon as they can. If they try to fob you off like that when buying, imagine what they’ll be like if you try to claim under the “warranty”.
I suspect part of the problem is that you cam across as an informed customer. In fact you probably know more about the model, and possibly even that example, than them. They’d rather sell to someone who will buy it because Type R and they’ll never hear from again.
Keep looking. To be honest, for that type of car at that type of price I’d be looking private. Have you tried owners forums and Facebook groups?
griffter said:
Walk. No need to buy a car from a place like that.
However, sadly, that will be the deal with many places. They want to do as little as possible to the car to maximise profit and they will disclaim knowledge of as much as possible to avoid comeback.
For what it’s worth, in my opinion, a months warranty is an alarm bell. I am not a lawyer, but I. believe you have six months protection under the Consumer Protection Act or something. That’s not the same as a warranty, but a month just says they’re trying to wash their hands of their customers as soon as they can. If they try to fob you off like that when buying, imagine what they’ll be like if you try to claim under the “warranty”.
I suspect part of the problem is that you cam across as an informed customer. In fact you probably know more about the model, and possibly even that example, than them. They’d rather sell to someone who will buy it because Type R and they’ll never hear from again.
Keep looking. To be honest, for that type of car at that type of price I’d be looking private. Have you tried owners forums and Facebook groups?
Hey man thanks for the reply, this is exactly what I was thinking if this is how they act when selling the car imagine the hassle if something went wrong, they would most likely fob you off and I do believe you are right actually with the 1 month warranty as I am going to see the 2nd Honda today and they offer 6 months warranty plus breakdown cover with it. The guy was very upfront and honest on the phone telling me the body work has some scratches and a dent in the passenger wing which they will fix if I want the car, I appreciate this honesty from a dealer and he mentioned the gearbox is smooth as no crunching etc in high revs and the engine is great, so this sounds much more promising! However, sadly, that will be the deal with many places. They want to do as little as possible to the car to maximise profit and they will disclaim knowledge of as much as possible to avoid comeback.
For what it’s worth, in my opinion, a months warranty is an alarm bell. I am not a lawyer, but I. believe you have six months protection under the Consumer Protection Act or something. That’s not the same as a warranty, but a month just says they’re trying to wash their hands of their customers as soon as they can. If they try to fob you off like that when buying, imagine what they’ll be like if you try to claim under the “warranty”.
I suspect part of the problem is that you cam across as an informed customer. In fact you probably know more about the model, and possibly even that example, than them. They’d rather sell to someone who will buy it because Type R and they’ll never hear from again.
Keep looking. To be honest, for that type of car at that type of price I’d be looking private. Have you tried owners forums and Facebook groups?
Here is the link - https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202308120...
07 plate so as long as there's no rust along the top window seal and wheel arches look good then this could be decent to pick up, I did notice some rust on 1-2 of the discs but I guess that could potentially be cleared off after taking the car a 30-50 mil drive with a good bit of breaking to clear it.
Can you get any sort of bluetooth device to hook up so I can link the phone and play my stuff from spotify?
I have not tried any owners forums or facebook groups, I don't know any and I'd probably need a good mechanic to look over a private sale to feel solid about it because if something went wrong then that guy is most likely gone in the wind lol.
Edited by Stevie19 on Saturday 16th September 12:17
So a quick update on the care above I just went to see, let me know what you guys think.
Dealer was very honest and upfront, fantastic with that side of things so some points on what I noticed below.
1. Rust in wheel arches with some rusty holes so quite bad in some areas.
2. Discs/Calipers badly rusted.
3. couple of small dents and lots of chips on the front.
4. Badges on front and back badly worn.
5. Engine take a couple of kicks to get started, he did mention the battery was dead this morning as it's been idle for a while but he will replace the battery and check the spark plugs no problem.
6. Rust along the top window at the seal, rusted all the way along there.
7. Rust holds/bits falling off when you lift the bonnet on the upper side.
He's getting a painter in tomorrow to work on the car all day and said he will repair everything and get a full 12 month MOT done on it as well, he will also repair/treat the rust areas and get the underside of the car checked for rust as well plus fire on new discs.
So he's willing to get it all repaired and even add on additional parts in the 6 month warranty if I want, which I thought was showing good character and commitment.
I think if he's willing to sort it all thenn that's good right?
Thanks,
Dealer was very honest and upfront, fantastic with that side of things so some points on what I noticed below.
1. Rust in wheel arches with some rusty holes so quite bad in some areas.
2. Discs/Calipers badly rusted.
3. couple of small dents and lots of chips on the front.
4. Badges on front and back badly worn.
5. Engine take a couple of kicks to get started, he did mention the battery was dead this morning as it's been idle for a while but he will replace the battery and check the spark plugs no problem.
6. Rust along the top window at the seal, rusted all the way along there.
7. Rust holds/bits falling off when you lift the bonnet on the upper side.
He's getting a painter in tomorrow to work on the car all day and said he will repair everything and get a full 12 month MOT done on it as well, he will also repair/treat the rust areas and get the underside of the car checked for rust as well plus fire on new discs.
So he's willing to get it all repaired and even add on additional parts in the 6 month warranty if I want, which I thought was showing good character and commitment.
I think if he's willing to sort it all thenn that's good right?
Thanks,
Sounds like too much rust to me. Mine is a 58 plate, there was some surface rust under the window seal, but quite mild.
Theres almost no rust in the wheel arches, just small surface rust patches, none on the bonnet.
The worst rust on mine is above the back box heat shield and the rear subframe.
Subframe is easy to check, but you can't see under the heatshield without removing the back box. I guess unless it's fallen off!
Theres almost no rust in the wheel arches, just small surface rust patches, none on the bonnet.
The worst rust on mine is above the back box heat shield and the rear subframe.
Subframe is easy to check, but you can't see under the heatshield without removing the back box. I guess unless it's fallen off!
Edited by .:ian:. on Saturday 16th September 16:28
.:ian:. said:
Sounds like too much rust to me. Mine is a 58 plate, there was some surface rust under the window seal, but quite mild.
Theres almost no rust in the wheel arches, just small surface rust patches, none on the bonnet.
The worst rust on mine is above the back box heat shield and the rear subframe.
Subframe is easy to check, but you can't see under the heatshield without removing the back box. I guess unless it's fallen off!
So you think I should give it a miss? I said to the guy I would come back to check the car next week after he's ran it through all repairs.Theres almost no rust in the wheel arches, just small surface rust patches, none on the bonnet.
The worst rust on mine is above the back box heat shield and the rear subframe.
Subframe is easy to check, but you can't see under the heatshield without removing the back box. I guess unless it's fallen off!
Edited by .:ian:. on Saturday 16th September 16:28
Mine also doesn't have rust like that on the arches, also mine always started first time even when the original battery was buggered. It just struggled if it hadn't been used for a while.
Also without sounding negative I suspect they won't change the spark plugs. They are expensive (£50) and it's a really awkward job, the engine is saturated really far back and a fair amount of trim etc has to be removed to gain access. If they haven't worked on an FN2 before then they will easily take a few hours.
I would suspect sorting out all these issues will eat into any profit margin they had on this car which is why I suspect some of these issues won't get sorted
Also without sounding negative I suspect they won't change the spark plugs. They are expensive (£50) and it's a really awkward job, the engine is saturated really far back and a fair amount of trim etc has to be removed to gain access. If they haven't worked on an FN2 before then they will easily take a few hours.
I would suspect sorting out all these issues will eat into any profit margin they had on this car which is why I suspect some of these issues won't get sorted
RichFN2 said:
Mine also doesn't have rust like that on the arches, also mine always started first time even when the original battery was buggered. It just struggled if it hadn't been used for a while.
Also without sounding negative I suspect they won't change the spark plugs. They are expensive (£50) and it's a really awkward job, the engine is saturated really far back and a fair amount of trim etc has to be removed to gain access. If they haven't worked on an FN2 before then they will easily take a few hours.
I would suspect sorting out all these issues will eat into any profit margin they had on this car which is why I suspect some of these issues won't get sorted
Yeh the guy did mention the battery was flat because it was idle for a while and he has no problem replacing the battery as when pushing the button it sounds like 2 full kicks to start the engine, whereas in another honda the engine kicked off straight away. Also without sounding negative I suspect they won't change the spark plugs. They are expensive (£50) and it's a really awkward job, the engine is saturated really far back and a fair amount of trim etc has to be removed to gain access. If they haven't worked on an FN2 before then they will easily take a few hours.
I would suspect sorting out all these issues will eat into any profit margin they had on this car which is why I suspect some of these issues won't get sorted
If he does make all the required repairs, he mentioned he can't move off 4.5k because he needs to put a lot into repairing it, you think that's worth it if all repairs are done?
Stevie1986 said:
Hey Folks,
Just looking for a bit of advice as I'm looking to buy a Honda Type r GT, my car knowledge is not the best so hopefully some of the guru's can help me out.
So it's a 2.0 i-VTEC Type R GT 3dr 2008 and from what I can see it does look in fantastic condition and I used an app called "Know Your Car" so I can see the full MOT history which is great, looks pretty decent and the last few MOT's are all good, the garage are throwing in a full 12 month road tax as well which is around £390 I believe?
So the price they have it for and they won't really budge is £4500, we buy any car shows the car is valued at around £2000 so just looking for some advice on what I should look out for and if this range is a good deal or not so much?
Edit - Mileage = 100k
Owners = 4
Thanks in advance!
Cheers,
Steven
Had my 09 Nighthawk Black GT since June. The garage had it up for about £5400 I think but, after all the issues I had with Focus ST they sold me (paid £4900 for), they swapped me over into to. Just dealer prices isn't it. It's definitely not worth that, especially since it has next to no service history! They did service it for me, MOT'd it and fixed all the things it needed for a clear sheet. Was just a few bits here and there, a tyre, few bulbs and the drop links needed doing. Think I'm the 5th owner and it had 104k on when I got it, so similar to the ones you're looking at. Tax is £395 for the year.Just looking for a bit of advice as I'm looking to buy a Honda Type r GT, my car knowledge is not the best so hopefully some of the guru's can help me out.
So it's a 2.0 i-VTEC Type R GT 3dr 2008 and from what I can see it does look in fantastic condition and I used an app called "Know Your Car" so I can see the full MOT history which is great, looks pretty decent and the last few MOT's are all good, the garage are throwing in a full 12 month road tax as well which is around £390 I believe?
So the price they have it for and they won't really budge is £4500, we buy any car shows the car is valued at around £2000 so just looking for some advice on what I should look out for and if this range is a good deal or not so much?
Edit - Mileage = 100k
Owners = 4
Thanks in advance!
Cheers,
Steven
Edited by Stevie1986 on Sunday 10th September 13:23
Other than the battery recently going, which I was aware of (should have got them to change it really, was stood for a while so needed a jump when they picked it up), it's been absolutely faultless. Does like to go through a bit of oil, but I believe this is normal, especially when using VTEC! Chain doesn't rattle, so going to keep an eye on it but not in a huge rush to sort that out. Mine does have the rust along the windscreen, but doesn't overly bother me and doesn't seem too bad. No rust anywhere else I can see.
Mine is the facelift, so comes with the HID headlights ad a few other bits, which is a nice addition. I think they rectified a few of the issues from the pre-facelift model, so the leaky boot they can suffer with and other things I don't seem to be affected by. Crunchy gearboxes is something else to watch for and if it pops out of gear in 2nd/3rd. Again, mine is fine. Motorway valued it at £3200 as an FYI.
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