RE: Honda Civic Type R goes on sale

[havoc]

supercharged said:

Talk about devaluing a brand! Honda's marketing people really have something to answer for in my opinion.

:rant:

Type-R stands for light-weight and race-spec engineering. Not 'put a bodykit, alloys, and a bigger engine in it, just like every other no-effort car company'.

[Phil Hopkins]

I think it looks pretty cool actually.

[waynepixel]

Well this is how it should have look. What the hell happened.

[Mr Whippy]

Type R is a badge engineered product these days.

I can't believe they shortened the gears but added no more grunt. Fair enough if it was an S2000 spec engine that could live with closer ratio's and added significant power, but they are just masking flab with stupid gears like the new Clio 197!

Gash, will be bought by people who want to be seen in a TypeR rather than drive a TypeR. I think all the people who really understood the FWD TypeR ethos are in DC2 Teggys!

Dave

[bunglist]

I know someone that has driven this New Civic and he has owned the old Type R and the Integra, and he reckons that the new Type R is Shite and does not compare to the old one, it is more like what NEIL H Said earlier about the Golf they have made it bigger and bulkier and not really increased the power.

I shall find out some more about how bad it actually is as my friend drives them every day at the docks.

[swoll]

Must agree that the last Civic Type-R left me cold. Looked like a mini MPV with a bodykit.

New civic styling is growing on me, and at least they are trying to do something different.

[midgster]

waynepixel said:

Well this is how it should have look. What the hell happened.

Looks pretty similar to me! Only differences I can see are
1)Wheels (They wer NEVER gonna be standard)
2)Side skirts are slightly lower on white car
3)Air intake on front bumper on white car now has fog light in red car.

The colour and blacked out windows I think is what it is making appear far more menacing

[stevieb]

The Pic in the advert or review what ever you want to call it, look like the current Type S.. or a specced up Civic Diesel.

Where has the agressivness gone.

Edited by stevieb on Tuesday 16th January 14:59

[_ian_]

There's a guy down the road from me who's had one for about a month(must be an import).

Looks nice, no aggression in the styling at all,looks grown up if that's the right phrase.

[baz1985]

surely a used 130i is a better proposition

[tony*t3]

Funny thing is, if like Honda, you photograph the car with a slight 'fish eye' lens effect, its adds a whole dollop of agressive looks to an otherwise fairly bland car.

take a look on www.redh.co.uk to see what I mean.

Edited by tony*t3 on Tuesday 16th January 15:42

[coog]

I think it looks pretty damn good actually. OK so its a beefed up hatchback but its still a dynamic looking thing. Yeah, the concept car looked way more aggressive but I don't see it being watered down "that" much. The only thing is, you should be able to buy it in Championship White with the wheels to match (though i'm sure this will be a JDM option only)!

I'll reserve judgement on the performance side of things until I get the chance to have a go myself. Needless to say it won't be anything like my DC2 but its not meant to be, so i'm not going to slag it for that! I'd imagine it's gonna be a very worthy conteder and alternative to the Mk5 GTI which I think is a brilliant car too.

[havoc]

I'm embarassed by it. It doesn't look any better than the old breadvan, has no more power, more weight and cheaper suspension...

[potatoboy666]

I prefer it like this. Still looks good, I found that with the new civics, they look better in real life as opposed to photos.

[TaylotS2K]

I suspect a lot of people will buy bigger alloys (the standard ones dont look big enough) and put a more agressiv body kit on. The white one looks superb. The official one in red looks like a type s.

[Fittster]

baz1985 said:

surely a used 130i is a better proposition

To ugly to even consider.

[TaylotS2K]

Fittster said:

baz1985 said:

surely a used 130i is a better proposition

To ugly to even consider.

I agree. The 1 series has the profile of a van..

[danwww]

I dunno much about type-r's but from the stats performance wise it doesn't seem much different from the old breadvan

[Mr Whippy]

Really not keen on them inside. Anyone sat in one? It's not really like the old breadvan, very functional and focussed gives way to nick nacky trinkety interior design that's just a mess and very "flash gordon" renaissance in appearance... as nice as it might appear I'd just see £££ spent on a load of curves and LCD screens that just weigh the car down even more, and money that wasn't spent on an S2000 spec engine!

At least the breadvan was conventional, I'd prefer fairly bland and efficient engineering and design over "styled for the sake of it" stuff. Just because you can make the entire front and rear lighting elements ONE big expensive piece of plastic that probably requires removing the bumper to change a sidelight bulb doesn't mean you should!

Worse still those triangular exhausts are actually mouldings with cheap small exhausts inside that look like they are from an 800cc Fiesta, but TWO! WHY have two cheap crappy exhausts and the piping to get them to each side, that are not seen anyway? with fake ends? why not just have ONE exhaust and have the other fake bit a blanking one?


Then to wrap it all up they've not really changed the engine at all, the gearbox if anything is worse for most of the time the car is used on the road, and any sense of saying it's better for track work, well adding weight killed that idea straight away.

They'd have been better calling this the S and not bothering with an R unless they were going to do it properly... imho M3 CSL style with an S2000 engine!

Just my 2p

Dave

[fido]

baz1985 said:

surely a used 130i is a better proposition

I know i'm going to be flamed on here, but i'm seriously considering getting a 1yr old 130i (maybe the 3dr in a years time) instead of this lukewarm CTR, unless they come up with a 'hardcore' version, like dropping in a tweaked 2.4 K-series. I'd so much rather have the Honda - on hassle-free reliability alone.

Meanwhile, i'll keep my stripped-out CTR and burn-off any Elvis impersonators that i come across.