RE: New NSX at the 'Ring

[LoftyD]

kinetic said:

The way that car is elongated at the mid/rear suggests this mule is mid engined do you think? I hope so!

Front Engined.



Unless Honda have invented a 5litre V10 that doesn't need an air intake!

[rimmer]

if they put as much effort into making the car good looking as much they engineer the car then it would no doubt be an absolute corker but that 2003 concept looks awful.

[anonymous-user]

They don't need an SVA but they do need to be registered with the DVLA - hence the info coming from the DVLA saying 5 litre.

[andyinPembs]

I believe they've said it'd be a 2+2.

Are there any other 2+2 mid engined cars? Can't really go by mule shots, but does seem to point to being a 2+2, maybe front engined rather than mid...

[Road_Terrorist]

I read elsewhere that it will definately be a front engined 2+2, this seems to confirm it.

[stephen300o]

Road_Terrorist said:

I read elsewhere that it will definately be a front engined 2+2, this seems to confirm it.

[Jackass]

andyinPembs said:

I believe they've said it'd be a 2+2.

Are there any other 2+2 mid engined cars? Can't really go by mule shots, but does seem to point to being a 2+2, maybe front engined rather than mid...

Ferrari 308 Modena GT4

[boolay]

I want one! a 5 litre engine that's cheap to tax!... (From DVLA)



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[annodomini2]

RichardR said:

Robfow said:

Date of First Registration 15 05 2007

Year of Manufacture 2007

Cylinder Capacity (cc) 5000CC



Think that confirms the engine size

Do these test mules have to go through an SVA test before they can be registered?

No they are considered pre-production prototypes and must be completely destroyed (i.e. crushed), when no longer required.



I may be wrong, but if being used on public highways in the UK, I believe the driver must have a MIRA license and notify the police of a journey's details in case of issue.

[scotia_steve74]

If they build the nicer one out of the two I am going to buy it!



Always loved the NSX since I first got my hands on one as a 16 year old washing cars at my local Honda garage on Saturdays!



Would love to have one in my garage!!

[Joe T]

I think its a shame for Honda to move away from the mid engine layout, it will just get lost in all the other front engine GT cars most of which will beat this hands down, both in Styling and technology.

End of an Era

Maybe their F1 experience is frightening them off mid engine cars???

[Jackass]

boolay said:

I want one! a 5 litre engine that's cheap to tax!... (From DVLA)
6 Months Rate £99.00
12 Months Rate £180.00

That's the rate of duty for vehicles that don't have CO2 emission data (usually production vehicles before March 2001, but also covers kit cars).

[dsf3g]

Beefmeister said:

Seriously Honda, please please please please please make this:

Agreed. And contrary to the PH story, I have only heard praise for the HSC concept (and scorn for the latest "NSX non-replacement" models).

Edited by dsf3g on Thursday 24th May 11:44

[dinkel]

Bumped into an NSX monday, in Germany. Still a contemporary looking car.

[fido]

Joe T said:

Maybe their F1 experience is frightening them off mid engine cars???

yep, and let's hope they test this in a wind-tunnel first before unleashing it's V10 grunt. it still looks pants though.

[Famous Graham]

fido said:

Joe T said:

Maybe their F1 experience is frightening them off mid engine cars???

yep, and let's hope they test this in a wind-tunnel first before unleashing it's V10 grunt. it still looks pants though.

What looks pants?

The concept models that bear no relation to the what eventually rolls off the production line, or the mutilated S2000 that's only being used as a body kit to house whatever drivetrain and engine they're testing?

There's nothing here to give any idea whatsoever on the aesthetic front

[fido]

Famous Graham said:

fido said:

Joe T said:

Maybe their F1 experience is frightening them off mid engine cars???

yep, and let's hope they test this in a wind-tunnel first before unleashing it's V10 grunt. it still looks pants though.

What looks pants?

The concept models that bear no relation to the what eventually rolls off the production line, or the mutilated S2000 that's only being used as a body kit to house whatever drivetrain and engine they're testing?

There's nothing here to give any idea whatsoever on the aesthetic front

ok, we don't how it will end up looking - but assuming that they go with the front-engined design, which on the face of it looks a bit like a Dodge Viper type car - there is no way you can fit a V10 in the original concept-body. So it's going to compete with the upcoming Porsche Panorama, M5 etc. - just can't see them winning on looks alone.

If so, it's a shame really, as the NSX badge doesn't suit a muscle-GT car. Something's gone wrong with Honda ethos and game-plan of late - take a recognised badge like 'type-R' or 'NSX' and water it down to sell more cars. They might have been better off calling it something else, and developing a lightweight mid-engined replacement for the NSX.

Alot of if's and i hope i'm wrong, but the old NSX was spot-on from a purists' point of view - imho.

[kinetic]

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Front Engined.Unless Honda have invented a 5litre V10 that doesn't need an air intake!
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Not necessarily - if they are trying to disguise the fact that its midengined then they could presumably redirect the air intake from the front end of the car internally to cool a mid mounted engine -it is after all only a pretty crude test mule.

Lets put it this way - if its front engined I ain't gonna be buyin one! Simple as that really.

[havoc]

I don't see why everyone's so hung up on the next Honda 'supercar' being mid-engined. They've proven with the S2000 (before McMerc) that they can make an FR car with optimum weight-distribution.

In which case...what difference does it make, aside from looks?!? (oh...IMHO the 599 looks better than the 430...so looks can be sorted whatever the layout).


I share the concerns about the 4-seat possibility, but if it's (as likely) a 2+2, then it'll be aimed squarely at the M6, 911, XKR, SL55, RS5 etc. Which makes a lot of sense as it's that market which is attracting the customers right now - sporting GTs which can change character depending on the driver's mood but also have the flexibility (read space) to be semi-practical.

I'm looking forward to it. It'll be the make-or-break of Honda's engineering reputation, IMHO - the cars since the S2000 have been, from an engineering perspective, lacklustre. 'bout time they sorted that out!

[stephen300o]

S2000 is a sports car, I was hoping for a supercar not a GT.