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Discussion
Senninha said:
I believe TD has put in some practice to be able to drift his NSX (in the appropriate safe places). I would'nt recommend trying this for real unless you know what you're doing otherwise the NSX will bite .... hard! Mid engined RWD will swap ends very quickly if you get the balance wrong. The Elise ws quite easy to play with on the throttle, but i've not even tried in the NSX. Prefer to spend time going the right way quickly .....
I have read different reports of how the NSX handles on the limit. The 1997 CAR test saidtail slide said:
NoelWatson said:
I tend to leave the traction control switched on at all times on mine (except in empty car parks). It isn't adjustable in the way my 106 and 306 Rallyes were as its limits are too high on the public road.
Couldn't really get an Elise to do this on a test drive, or even a hired Exige at Spa, but I can do it on the NSX on my son's playstation GT4! "On the track, the NSX is supremely able. Its relative modest rubber inhibits ultimate grip on
the fast, wide sweeps at the back of Thruxton: the car gently oversteers, as grip begins to
disappear at the rear. Yet this modest breakaway is so well sign posted, so controllable,
that the NSX soon proves itself to be a 170mph machine in which it's possible to dance on the
limit yet never fall"
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/es.charla.motor/b...
yet in Autocar 2002 (where it beat the 996) they said it was a handful at the limit. Could the 2002 changes have affected the handling?
I wonder if the toe in on the NSX affects rear end breakaway, as I recall the Xsara and 306 were similarly affected...
Senninha said:
I believe TD has put in some practice to be able to drift his NSX (in the appropriate safe places). I would'nt recommend trying this for real unless you know what you're doing otherwise the NSX will bite .... hard! Mid engined RWD will swap ends very quickly if you get the balance wrong. The Elise ws quite easy to play with on the throttle, but i've not even tried in the NSX. Prefer to spend time going the right way quickly .....
You are right on both counts - I wouldn't even think about getting those angles of attack on road in an NSX, unless it was the widest corner known to man with no traffic within 10miles.tail slide said:
NoelWatson said:
I tend to leave the traction control switched on at all times on mine (except in empty car parks). It isn't adjustable in the way my 106 and 306 Rallyes were as its limits are too high on the public road.
Couldn't really get an Elise to do this on a test drive, or even a hired Exige at Spa, but I can do it on the NSX on my son's playstation GT4! The NSX is quite benign for a mid engined car, but it does fall into roll oversteer if you are really on the limit - you need a bit of room to hold it. It becomes predictable after a while, but if you expect to jump in and just start chucking it sideways you're going to end up in a hedge/ditch/oncoming car sooner or later. Work up to its limits, understand the chassis & steering response and pay it respect and you can have as much fun as you want. I like this aspect of the car, its not going to reveal everything it can do in the first 1k miles... it takes time to learn.
Easiest way to spin an NSX? Too much lock, applied too quickly during the turn in phase. As you turn in you need to have your butt hardwired into what the car is doing - as soon as you feel the onset of yaw you need to start winding off the lock, but if you've applied the lock too quickly you've put too much energy into the chassis and she's coming round anyway.
The great thing is, it's just as much fun to drive quickly as it is sideways. Something for everyone.
NoelWatson said:
Senninha said:
I believe TD has put in some practice to be able to drift his NSX (in the appropriate safe places). I would'nt recommend trying this for real unless you know what you're doing otherwise the NSX will bite .... hard! Mid engined RWD will swap ends very quickly if you get the balance wrong. The Elise ws quite easy to play with on the throttle, but i've not even tried in the NSX. Prefer to spend time going the right way quickly .....
I have read different reports of how the NSX handles on the limit. The 1997 CAR test saidtail slide said:
NoelWatson said:
I tend to leave the traction control switched on at all times on mine (except in empty car parks). It isn't adjustable in the way my 106 and 306 Rallyes were as its limits are too high on the public road.
Couldn't really get an Elise to do this on a test drive, or even a hired Exige at Spa, but I can do it on the NSX on my son's playstation GT4! "On the track, the NSX is supremely able. Its relative modest rubber inhibits ultimate grip on
the fast, wide sweeps at the back of Thruxton: the car gently oversteers, as grip begins to
disappear at the rear. Yet this modest breakaway is so well sign posted, so controllable,
that the NSX soon proves itself to be a 170mph machine in which it's possible to dance on the
limit yet never fall"
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/es.charla.motor/b...
yet in Autocar 2002 (where it beat the 996) they said it was a handful at the limit. Could the 2002 changes have affected the handling?
I wonder if the toe in on the NSX affects rear end breakaway, as I recall the Xsara and 306 were similarly affected...
Wouldn't surprise me if toe affects it (although TD will probably know the rear suspension set up a lot better than me)...
Both the DC2-R and the S2000 (as well as other quick Hondas...poss. EP3-R) have a passive rear-steer suspension set-up which increases toe-in under compression...which is why lifting-off mid-corner (and thus reducing compression on the outside-rear-wheel) is a sure-fire way to get the car to oversteer.
In the DC2, this is a great trait, as it gives a front-driver an additional yaw option not available to a traditional, 1-dimensional fwd car. It's not quite as quick or as pronounced as in say a 306GTi, but it's still effective.
In the S2000, however, it's a bit of an oddity. There you are, driving a car with sufficient power to steer from the rear quite sweetly if you're properly set-up and loaded-up in a corner, and they engineer-in a way for the car to bite you if you're clumsy with the throttle...which is why a few S2000 owners have actually modified the rear suspension to remove this particular trait.
Both the DC2-R and the S2000 (as well as other quick Hondas...poss. EP3-R) have a passive rear-steer suspension set-up which increases toe-in under compression...which is why lifting-off mid-corner (and thus reducing compression on the outside-rear-wheel) is a sure-fire way to get the car to oversteer.
In the DC2, this is a great trait, as it gives a front-driver an additional yaw option not available to a traditional, 1-dimensional fwd car. It's not quite as quick or as pronounced as in say a 306GTi, but it's still effective.
In the S2000, however, it's a bit of an oddity. There you are, driving a car with sufficient power to steer from the rear quite sweetly if you're properly set-up and loaded-up in a corner, and they engineer-in a way for the car to bite you if you're clumsy with the throttle...which is why a few S2000 owners have actually modified the rear suspension to remove this particular trait.
I run an NSX as the only car - not a daily driver but used in all situations. It's a wonderful place to spend the time.
You'd need a lot of space to push the limits on the road, as others have said leave that for the track. The speed the car can carry is astonishing though.
The noise you'll never get bored of, but the quality that really sticks out is the feel of the thing. The confidence you get from how it communicates what's going on is uncanny. I've put about 10k miles on mine and I'm still learning it, and am more impressed the more I discover. This one's a keeper.
You'd need a lot of space to push the limits on the road, as others have said leave that for the track. The speed the car can carry is astonishing though.
The noise you'll never get bored of, but the quality that really sticks out is the feel of the thing. The confidence you get from how it communicates what's going on is uncanny. I've put about 10k miles on mine and I'm still learning it, and am more impressed the more I discover. This one's a keeper.
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