Car track day etiquette?

Car track day etiquette?

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fergus

6,430 posts

276 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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Havoc,

Points taken.

havoc said:

fergus said:
What's wrong with using lights on the circuit?

Nothing, except insofar as you can't see anywhere near as much on a camera as you can with a marshal actually there.


Good job the F1 boys don't rely on these then at the Silv GP circuit. Oops they do. Do you think you would be let out on the circuit if the idea wasn't safe? Next time you're on a circuit which uses cameras, ask to have a look in the control room. The cameras are often mounted well above the ground, so can see more than a marshall at ground level.

havoc said:

fergus said:
Caveat emptor!

Now that I have to disagree with...it's akin to saying you've got to accept the risk of being mugged when you head into a city-centre after dark - it implies a total abrogation of the responsibility of both those policing the area (T-day organiser / police) and of the individual breaching the law or regulation (driver / mugger). Which is increasingly prevalent in society today, but still not acceptable or justified.


My quote was supposed to say, if you don't want to risk someone 'driving inappropriately' and driving into you, don't go on the circuit.

PS I've never sen a blue flag at a t/day. Which organisers use these out of interest? - in addition to RMA?

fergus

6,430 posts

276 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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dannylt said:
I've just exchanged the SR3 for a Caterham, and first jobs will be huge RaceCo exhaust and an airbox. Given the exhaust is on the drivers side it was making me deaf anyway!


Danny

Have you tried Competition Fabrications @ snetterton ( (speak to Nick)? A friend with an SLR got a quote from Ammo @ RaceCo for a titanium silencer which was around 600 quid, whereas Comp. Fab. wanted around 250 for a custom silencer. OK - Race Co products are extremely well made and immaculatey finished, but the Comp. Fab. job looks pretty good. It even has a flat underside to stop it grouding out going through paddock at Brands. Worth a shout - if even for a chat? Have to google the tel no though!

Cheers

dannylt

1,906 posts

285 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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Cheers Fergus, but the car is already booked in next week with Ammo's welder since it needs the collector to be modified a bit to fit. I'd budgetted for this when I bought the car, and I've never heard a complaint about RaceCo silencers, and from my perspective they're guaranteed to do the job.

Definitely welcome some tips & pointers on the airbox front though! There seems to be a hole in the market for Duratec Caterhams so far.

fergus

6,430 posts

276 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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Can a certain Bernard Scouse not be persuaded to 'have a look'. He does a neat cold air box mod for the k-series. Ask the same question on blatchat?

RaceCo do very very neat gear. well worth it. way better than factory.

havoc

30,093 posts

236 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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Fergus,

BaT have had marshals w/ blue flags at Ty Croes, and, IIRC, Castle Coombe.

Caveat Emptor...yeah, you're right. To me, a well-organised and policed day is vital because it's my only car - if some idiot hits it because he either didn't listen to or didn't care about the rules, I would probably hospitalise the pratt!

Cameras - have been in the Donny control room (Trakzone day), seen the bank of monitors, and seen 2 people looking at 8 or 10 monitors while 30-odd cars were on-track. Except they were spending more time gassing to the organiser sitting behind them! Didn't fill me with confidence. While 3 Marshals at the 2 posts and the start-line at Anglesey have done a VERY good job at the BaT days there...like I said, observant enough to use blue flags, and a black on one occasion (car dropped oil).

iguana

7,044 posts

261 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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fergus said:

PS I've never sen a blue flag at a t/day. Which organisers use these out of interest? - in addition to RMA?


I've seen 'em used on a Heritage/Evo day & on an Easytrack day.

55jnj

555 posts

285 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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Have seen blue flags out on many track days & used sensibly.

It's in any track day organiser's interests to ensure the track keeps flowing & that there aren't people out there with a line of cars behind them through all the corners, then flooring it down the straight so others can't get past & then holding everyone up again at the next sequence of corners etc. Not slagging off any single track organiser etc but this sort of thing does happen frequently on certain days at Donington particularly when the "big spoiler, big exhaust, little willy" brigade are out instead of doing donuts at the local B&Q carpark.


>> Edited by 55jnj on Monday 31st January 23:29

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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nutcase said:



LOL, that's the one. I get it this weekend, so can't wait for another blat in it.

How loud do you reckon it is then, compared to other track stuff you've heard?


cool. difficult to tell on the phone obviously but it does sound superb, i'd guess too loud for the quieter tracks like goodwood but that is a guess.

if you're picking it up from amd do me a favour and tell andy to get cracking on my e30! ta


francis

dannylt

1,906 posts

285 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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fergus said:
Can a certain Bernard Scouse not be persuaded to 'have a look'. He does a neat cold air box mod for the k-series. Ask the same question on blatchat?
Bernard was one of the first people I asked; however is up to the eye balls installing Audi engines in Elises . No joy from Blatchat as yet.

James s

1,615 posts

246 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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Only done 1 day without blue flags - silverstone a couple of weeks ago week with Goldtrack - all others have used the complete spectrum.

I hve had the shame of blue on 1 occasion, though thankfully it was only on my secod track day and I heeded it quickly