Discussion
Matthead said:
As an aside, as for the baffled sumps, my E36 has an s54 in it and it had a m52 2.8 before that, neither had been baffled or had dry sump set ups and I've never had any oil problems. Maybe I'm not trying hard enough
Do you monitor your oil pressure? If it is a potential problem for your engine you should see oil pressure drop under hard braking/cornering, if it is dropping low enough then you will be causing additional wear. On BECs like mine is a more common problem than CECs.Have you tried TouringCarSpares?
I used to buy my slicks and wets from them when I first started racing. However there is a big difference between buying new and being able to run a set of slicks in rather than just buying ones that have been ragged to qualify on and effectively blue. I made huge differences in my lap times buying new and they lasted longer so the effective price was very similar.
I used to buy my slicks and wets from them when I first started racing. However there is a big difference between buying new and being able to run a set of slicks in rather than just buying ones that have been ragged to qualify on and effectively blue. I made huge differences in my lap times buying new and they lasted longer so the effective price was very similar.
tankplanker said:
o you monitor your oil pressure? If it is a potential problem for your engine you should see oil pressure drop under hard braking/cornering, if it is dropping low enough then you will be causing additional wear. On BECs like mine is a more common problem than CECs.
Yes I do, with both a data logger with oil pressure and temp monitoring and a spa dual oil pressure and temp gauge so I can see it quickly when on track. Never had any problemss, it's not low, never got low and doesn't trip the alarms on the gauge. Local track for me is snetterton so coram is a big long fast corner, I've never had low oil pressure around there. Low fuel and fuel starvation was more of an issue!! iguana said:
I don't think matey is after ultimate handling prowess if he's tracking a TT anyway!
Believe me the TT goes a hell of a lot better than people think, especially when I've taken out over 300kg of excess weight out of it, polybushed the whole car, coilovers, adjustable tie bars, been running dedicated track semi slicks for 2 years, support braces, half cage and whole pile of other upgrades.Ifs not the usually fully interiored hairdresser car
https://youtu.be/hNwc37c60co?t=2m35s (excuse the idiot in the yellow M3)
Samjeev said:
Running slicks will exclude you from a number of track days and if you lack an MSA approved roll cage you may be turned away altogether.
Not to mention running to the edge of traction is part of learning your car, slicks would surely just sweep any of that under the rug I imagine?
Just out of curiosity, when was the last time your car underwent scrutineering on a track day? Not to mention running to the edge of traction is part of learning your car, slicks would surely just sweep any of that under the rug I imagine?
As said above, I have done two years on semi-slicks, I feel like the car could benefit with slicks at this stage to improve speed carried through corners, I still need more grunt on the straights (as the yellow M3 above shows) but I'm weighing up where to spend some money on improvements. There was a V8 M3 the other day at Bedford on slicks and it was relatively stock, certainly with no roll cage, but my god did it grip and was able to run a much tighter line with less bleed out to the kerbs.
1781cc said:
iguana said:
I don't think matey is after ultimate handling prowess if he's tracking a TT anyway!
Believe me the TT goes a hell of a lot better than people think, especially when I've taken out over 300kg of excess weight out of it, polybushed the whole car, coilovers, adjustable tie bars, been running dedicated track semi slicks for 2 years, support braces, half cage and whole pile of other upgrades.Ifs not the usually fully interiored hairdresser car
https://youtu.be/hNwc37c60co?t=2m35s (excuse the idiot in the yellow M3)
Samjeev said:
Running slicks will exclude you from a number of track days and if you lack an MSA approved roll cage you may be turned away altogether.
Not to mention running to the edge of traction is part of learning your car, slicks would surely just sweep any of that under the rug I imagine?
Just out of curiosity, when was the last time your car underwent scrutineering on a track day? Not to mention running to the edge of traction is part of learning your car, slicks would surely just sweep any of that under the rug I imagine?
As said above, I have done two years on semi-slicks, I feel like the car could benefit with slicks at this stage to improve speed carried through corners, I still need more grunt on the straights (as the yellow M3 above shows) but I'm weighing up where to spend some money on improvements. There was a V8 M3 the other day at Bedford on slicks and it was relatively stock, certainly with no roll cage, but my god did it grip and was able to run a much tighter line with less bleed out to the kerbs.
1781cc said:
Just out of curiosity, when was the last time your car underwent scrutineering on a track day?
You would be able to spot slicks on a car even whilst it's moving, its really not difficult, let alone in the paddock.And I was actually told off for wearing my gopro on my helmet last track day, bit silly but I took it off anyway and moved it to my harness bar mount.
JKING said:
I think you'll find on MSV trackdays they will not allow you to use slicks unless you have a cage fitted.
Sweet, so five circuits organised by MSV events only, but Bedford (which is an MSV) run by OpenTrack on Monday with the M3 on slicks with no cage is fine it seems.Btw, I'm being devils advocate here, I'm not decided on getting slicks 100% yet, but just proving it's not a clear black and white for those considering it.
That M3 was there throughout the session and I gaurentee it had no cage.
Samjeev said:
And I was actually told off for wearing my gopro on my helmet last track day, bit silly but I took it off anyway and moved it to my harness bar mount.
Not silly at all - for 2 reasons:1. It creates a simple high-torque rotation point - if something hits the gopro and uses it as a lever to turn your head you can snap your neck very easily.
2. All the helmet manufacturers tell you explicitly not to attach anything to the helmet. It could theoretically compromise the structure of the helmet under certain impacts.
Matthead said:
Dunlop 235/610/17 medium compound. All part worn but plenty of life in them. Probably 7-8 sets available. I'd have to have a count up. Also have one set of Dunlop 235/610/17 wets.
Could very well be interested in some of those slicks - could you please drop me a PM / email? Thnx!Steve H said:
Samjeev said:
Seems like a lot of hassle when a turbo would be more fun.
You appear to be in the wrong section, try HERESmart.
FYI, Turbo cars are fun in corners too, you just got to know how to drive
Edited by Samjeev on Sunday 16th July 20:51
AshBurrows said:
e21Mark said:
Is there a night and day difference between slicks and road legal slicks like the 888's etc?
Yes.Am considering a set of slicks for my spare wheels but as I do mainly sprints and hillclimb, I will need a pretty soft compound that works well from cold.
E-bmw said:
e21Mark said:
I will need a pretty soft compound that works well from cold.
In my experience, that means you don't want slicks then, the only ones I have tried need a couple of laps before they give full traction.Where e21Mark might find them 2nd hand at a reasonable price, is I guess, another question.
Edited by Munter on Monday 17th July 14:30
e21Mark said:
Is there a night and day difference between slicks and road legal slicks like the 888's etc?
I've used both R888s and Michelin S9Cs on my E30 M3...and the short answer is yes...My car has a baffled sump but no cage or harnesses.. There is a huge difference in the amount of grip and feel available, especially under braking. The slicks are roughly a third of the cost of R888s and the hard compound slicks suit my car perfectly (bearing in mind it isn't stripped or lightened so is quite heavy). They also last roughly 3 times as long as R888s in medium compound.
I was paying roughly £50 per tyre for 15" slicks compared to £150 ish for 15" R888s!
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