Second track car dilemma!! Tearing my hair out.
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Your man maths is exemplary, I don't think I've ever heard of someone buying a second second car because their second car is too nice for a wet trackday! A K20 crx sounds brilliant on track it then ultimately you'll find the limitations of fwd quicker than any rwd when it comes to power. I don't think adding power to the Golf will help as you you'll then find your perfect wet track day car is now unusable in the wet.
GravelBen said:
Really? Sure it can be frustrating when slower drivers in faster cars won't let you past, but I'd find it more galling to be a straight-line cowboy who catches people on the straights but can't keep up in the bends.
If you want the different excitement of overtaking and competing then go racing, thats not what trackdays are about.
+1 from me. If you want the different excitement of overtaking and competing then go racing, thats not what trackdays are about.
OP: It sounds to me like what you actually want is something other than trackdays and a second trackday car was not actually the right thing to get. You already have a track day car and there's little point in having a second one to sink money into, just use the first one for that.
For me, there is no benefit in having the fastest car on a track day as straight line speed does not equal fun. It is cornering where you show your real skill. Give me a 140bhp mazda MX5 on a damp track any day of the week; rwd, balanced and good fun to hustle through the corners. I did Snetterton in the wet where everyone had more power than me, but I was definitely quicker everywhere apart from the 2 main straights as I had it on the door handles and everyone else was a straight line hero. Hustling Porsches, Lotus' and a Monaro was easy as none of them could actually drive.
I think you need to take a step back and work out what you actually would enjoy doing. If it really is non competitive track days then fill your boots. But equally, your budget could get you competing in club motorsport in another car, which imho is way more fun.
I have done autosolo championships, Targa rallies and track days in a variety of cars that cost less than £3K, and while I still get pleasure from track days (particularly Cadwell in the TVR), give me the competitive stuff all day long. It's way more fun.
Get on to the Targa rally facebook page and have a look at a few of the pics and then come back and say you still want a second track day car....... Or get a Targa car to go alongside your trackday car and do 2 motorsport disciplines which would be my advice.
So you've managed to buy two trackday cars, neither of which are ideal for trackdays.
The CRX is too precious
The Golf is too fat and boring
I am still trying to figure out what is meant by the statement 'FWD is gay in the wet'... unless 'gay' in this context means 'often quicker than RWD, compared like-for-like'
Just buy a sports car of some description and be done with it. Drive it in all conditions. Try not to tear your hair out when- god forbid- somebody else turns out to be a quicker driver than you, or has more power at their disposal.
If you want to know how quick YOU are, I recommend competition.
The CRX is too precious
The Golf is too fat and boring
I am still trying to figure out what is meant by the statement 'FWD is gay in the wet'... unless 'gay' in this context means 'often quicker than RWD, compared like-for-like'
Just buy a sports car of some description and be done with it. Drive it in all conditions. Try not to tear your hair out when- god forbid- somebody else turns out to be a quicker driver than you, or has more power at their disposal.
If you want to know how quick YOU are, I recommend competition.
I don’t know what’s wrong with some people on here?
Someone wants to make their 2nd track car faster.
They don’t want to drive their other track car in the wet.
I for one couldn’t care less what the reasons are for it but I want to see you turbo or supercharge the golf.
Since when has pistonheads been about doing the most sensible thing?
(Just add on the few track days I’ve done I’ve not been the fastest and not overtaken much but I still loved it.
However some people want to go faster. So long as they’re not driving like a bell end I don’t see the issue with that)
Turbo/supercharge the golf & make a build thread!
Someone wants to make their 2nd track car faster.
They don’t want to drive their other track car in the wet.
I for one couldn’t care less what the reasons are for it but I want to see you turbo or supercharge the golf.
Since when has pistonheads been about doing the most sensible thing?
(Just add on the few track days I’ve done I’ve not been the fastest and not overtaken much but I still loved it.
However some people want to go faster. So long as they’re not driving like a bell end I don’t see the issue with that)
Turbo/supercharge the golf & make a build thread!
C70R said:
Partyvan said:
2) I wouldn't want to push 100% on a wet track. Cadwell is unforgiving of mistakes in the wet. It's too big a risk of crashing. Driving at 80% is dull.
4) It's tidy enough to be a show car as well, so would rather it didn't get wet / ditched
It feels like this is the crux of the issue here. You've built a show car that can occasionally double as a track car, rather than the other way around.4) It's tidy enough to be a show car as well, so would rather it didn't get wet / ditched
Owning a track car that you're excessively precious about is counter-productive.
I have a MKV R32 which I have done one track day in.
The car is not a garage queen so I decided it should be used on the tack to have some fun.
I am no driving God so the car has far more talents than me but I can see how it would frustrate a better driver. A couple of Fellow R32 owners have fettled with suspension and brakes which does improve things. I have invested in some spare wheels which I will fit some better tyres to and will think about other mods once I have got the most out of it the way it is.
Its plenty fast enough for me but I was only confident enough to pass slower cars later in the day and tended to let most cars pass me until my confidence grew. Great fun though, got another on the 29th Feb.
The car is not a garage queen so I decided it should be used on the tack to have some fun.
I am no driving God so the car has far more talents than me but I can see how it would frustrate a better driver. A couple of Fellow R32 owners have fettled with suspension and brakes which does improve things. I have invested in some spare wheels which I will fit some better tyres to and will think about other mods once I have got the most out of it the way it is.
Its plenty fast enough for me but I was only confident enough to pass slower cars later in the day and tended to let most cars pass me until my confidence grew. Great fun though, got another on the 29th Feb.
quick Nick said:
Your man maths is exemplary, I don't think I've ever heard of someone buying a second second car because their second car is too nice for a wet trackday! A K20 crx sounds brilliant on track it then ultimately you'll find the limitations of fwd quicker than any rwd when it comes to power. I don't think adding power to the Golf will help as you you'll then find your perfect wet track day car is now unusable in the wet.
agree on the man maths that is post grad levelWould it not be possible to FI the Golf and have switchable engine maps so you can have a balls out max boost dry track map and a more progressive lower power wet track day map ?
that way the CRX stays in the garage as a show car never to see the light of day or moisture and the VW becomes a car more suited to the OPs needs
or sell the golf and get a cheap boxster , more fun that the golf and waterproof !
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