Track day car 1-3k

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Docter Fox

593 posts

235 months

Tuesday 16th February 2021
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From that list, another vote for the MX5 here! They all suffer with rust but you should be able to pick up a mk3 around that budget. My second choice would be a Clio, they're a lot of fun too.

fuel_intentions

48 posts

51 months

Tuesday 16th February 2021
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I considered an MX5 and an mk3 MR2 with a similar budget in mind. Was nervous about the MX5 rust issue, particulaly the NB models that were in budget. Almost bought a couple of MR2 but was beaten to it. Ended up getting a 325ti (the compact), an am currently dealing with rust & spiraling project costs. In hindsight should have raised the budget slightly and gone was a well-cared for 5.

untakenname

4,969 posts

192 months

Tuesday 16th February 2021
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RX8 will be quicker on track than an MX5 (unless it's a turbo that's been modified) and have better handling on the limit, fuel consumption is surprisingly good as well.

QBee

20,982 posts

144 months

Tuesday 16th February 2021
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I had a ride around Mallory Park in an RX8 - surprisingly fast and good handling on the limit in the corners.
I have read that your only risk is with the rotary engine, but the poster who commented above will know better then me, as it may just be a motor trade myth because they don't understand anything non-standard.
After all I own a TVR and am sick to death of being told that they are unreliable.....they are far from unreliable if used regularly.

Pig benis

1,071 posts

181 months

Tuesday 16th February 2021
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I'm due to be selling my BMW E46 330ci very soon. Just waiting for a MOT and then will stick it up on eBay.

The car has been utterly perfect and I have spent a fortune on it over the last 2 years. Mods include -

Bilstein B12 suspension
Eibach springs
Polybushed in places
Full geo done for fast road setup
Michelin cup 2 tyres
Partially stripped interior
Msport front bumper (SE model car)

I've had a lot of track cars over the years and this has been far the most fun. I would highly recommend one, OP

Jonstar

867 posts

191 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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Pig benis said:
I'm due to be selling my BMW E46 330ci very soon. Just waiting for a MOT and then will stick it up on eBay.

The car has been utterly perfect and I have spent a fortune on it over the last 2 years. Mods include -

Bilstein B12 suspension
Eibach springs
Polybushed in places
Full geo done for fast road setup
Michelin cup 2 tyres
Partially stripped interior
Msport front bumper (SE model car)

I've had a lot of track cars over the years and this has been far the most fun. I would highly recommend one, OP
How much you looking for? PM me if preferred.

Pig benis

1,071 posts

181 months

Thursday 11th March 2021
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Jonstar said:
How much you looking for? PM me if preferred.
Really sorry Jon, I have only just seen this message.

I've decided not to sell, instead, I'm going to install the V8 engine from a 540i. Should be a lot of fun once finished.

PB

Jamescrs

4,479 posts

65 months

Friday 19th March 2021
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From the list MX5 is the obvious choice for me. I've had one and had a lot of fun in it but I'm a bit too tall for the Mk2 really, I can't get a helmet on with the roof up which makes it cold on winter track days.

I drive a R53 Mini on track now.

Clios used to be the standard choice but I think they have become less popular on track days recently, I suspect as the prices have been rising and they have become less available.

aka_kerrly

12,418 posts

210 months

Friday 19th March 2021
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1781cc said:
Oh, and if you prefer FWD, you can get a 225 and convert to FWD pretty easily, saving even more weight.
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Or you could just buy a Seat Leon Cupra R 1.8t which is effectively a FWD Audi TT/S3 with a 225hp engine, alloy lower arms,tt steering rack, brakes an hubs all from the factory and in my opinion is the best of the PQ34 platform VAG cars.

However out of the original choices I think the mk3 MR2 is the closest thing to the perfect track car out of the box plus with plenty of scope to improve it. What you could do is buy a MR2 mk3 and a Celica 190 and swap the engines over , the mr2 with 200hp is a huge improvement, shed some weight and improve the suspension and you're not far off a Lotus Exige for 1/8th of the price

All that said the Celica is a very good suggestion, the 190 is great for the track as you can really make use of the high revs, you can swap the LSD from the MR2 gearbox into the Celica to. Speaking of high revs the Honda Civic Type R ep3 is an obvious choice.


bigothunter

11,266 posts

60 months

Friday 19th March 2021
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1781cc said:
Oh, and if you prefer FWD, you can get a 225 and convert to FWD pretty easily, saving even more weight.
How could you possibly prefer FWD on the track? confused

Megaflow

9,417 posts

225 months

Friday 19th March 2021
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bigothunter said:
How could you possibly prefer FWD on the track? confused
Depends what you are more comfortable with IMO. I have just bought a Fiesta ST as a track car, I want to have fun, and have much more experience in FWD than RWD, so for me FWD is a good place to start to remove the unknown aspect. As experience builds then I fully expect to convert to RWD at some point.

bigothunter

11,266 posts

60 months

Friday 19th March 2021
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Megaflow said:
bigothunter said:
How could you possibly prefer FWD on the track? confused
Depends what you are more comfortable with IMO. I have just bought a Fiesta ST as a track car, I want to have fun, and have much more experience in FWD than RWD, so for me FWD is a good place to start to remove the unknown aspect. As experience builds then I fully expect to convert to RWD at some point.
Makes sense before you progress to Right Wheel Drive driving

Yeti97

400 posts

92 months

Friday 19th March 2021
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Currently hunting for a track car myself. The price of things has been skyrocketing over lockdown. A couple of MX5's have popped up local to me for £1k with no MOT and welding work required. Anything remotely well-priced is gone same-day. Missed a 1.8T Cupra for £1,100 and I'm gutted. Fiesta STs, Swift Sports, and the like are all well into £2k now. Getting bored of checking the marketplace etc every single day now. Going to miss the track season at this rate.

bigothunter

11,266 posts

60 months

Friday 19th March 2021
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Yeti97 said:
Currently hunting for a track car myself. The price of things has been skyrocketing over lockdown. A couple of MX5's have popped up local to me for £1k with no MOT and welding work required. Anything remotely well-priced is gone same-day. Missed a 1.8T Cupra for £1,100 and I'm gutted. Fiesta STs, Swift Sports, and the like are all well into £2k now. Getting bored of checking the marketplace etc every single day now. Going to miss the track season at this rate.
This game isn't cheap anyway. You need a realistic purchase budget.

Yeti97

400 posts

92 months

Friday 19th March 2021
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Or perhaps lower my expectations massively hehe

bigothunter

11,266 posts

60 months

Friday 19th March 2021
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Yeti97 said:
Or perhaps lower my expectations massively hehe
We have just been thorough a cost analysis for 2021. Total average cost for a track day in a budget car is around £700 per event. Race meetings start around £1200 per event. And that's before it blows up, breaks anything or hits the barrier.

Whether your track hack costs £1k or £3k is almost irrelevant over a track day season, except the £1k car is unlikely to last many laps or drive properly.

Yeti97

400 posts

92 months

Friday 19th March 2021
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bigothunter said:
Total average cost for a track day in a budget car is around £700 per event.
Would be interested in the breakdown of that. Guessing tyres, pads, ticket cost, fuel and other repairs?

bigothunter

11,266 posts

60 months

Friday 19th March 2021
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Yeti97 said:
bigothunter said:
Total average cost for a track day in a budget car is around £700 per event.
Would be interested in the breakdown of that. Guessing tyres, pads, ticket cost, fuel and other repairs?
Including fuel for the tow vehicle or two cars (track and support vehicles) for the average mileage between home and track, plus basic maintenance but not repairs. It doesn't come much cheaper.

1781cc

576 posts

94 months

Saturday 20th March 2021
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bigothunter said:
1781cc said:
Oh, and if you prefer FWD, you can get a 225 and convert to FWD pretty easily, saving even more weight.
How could you possibly prefer FWD on the track? confused
I don’t, but I know people who do, and people who race TTs that are front wheel drive and LSD equipped, Paul Hand and Nick Gough both race FWD TTs.

As for the Cupra R... it subjective, but looks awful to me, I find the TT to be a better shape and has a lot of aero related parts available for it as well

fuel_intentions

48 posts

51 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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aka_kerrly said:
However out of the original choices I think the mk3 MR2 is the closest thing to the perfect track car out of the box plus with plenty of scope to improve it. What you could do is buy a MR2 mk3 and a Celica 190 and swap the engines over , the mr2 with 200hp is a huge improvement, shed some weight and improve the suspension and you're not far off a Lotus Exige for 1/8th of the price
I went with an E46 325ti, but only since it came up locally for cheap. Otherwise was actually looking for a mk3 MR2. Poor man's Lotus.