RE: VW previews flagship EV saloon with new ID.Aero

RE: VW previews flagship EV saloon with new ID.Aero

Tuesday 28th June 2022

VW previews flagship EV saloon with new ID.Aero

VW is finally getting round to building an electric car that isn't a supermini or SUV. Here's what it will look like...


You may have noticed that while Audi and Porsche has attacked the EV conundrum from a larger car standpoint - with the platform sharing e-tron GT and Taycan, most notably - VW itself (alongside Cupra and Skoda) has been content to plod along with the modest prospect of hatchbacks and crossovers. It’s a strategy that fits in neatly with our expectations for the respective brands, and while the two are starting to meet in the middle with the MEB-based Q4 and Q5, and the larger ID.6, we haven’t seen what VW’s idea of a fully-electric global saloon looks like. Until now. 

The ID.Aero is the conceptual forerunner of what the firm says its mid-sized ‘family flagship’ will look like when it starts production next year. ‘Mid-size’ should be understood in the global sense, because the preview Aero is quite large; almost five metres long, in fact. Naturally its maker is promising ‘exceptional’ interior space from its comparatively long wheelbase, and while it isn’t interested into delving into technical detail at this stage, it already claims up to 385 miles of range from a lithium-ion battery with a net energy content of 77kWh. 

Like its EV stablemates, the ID.Aero is also based on the modular MEB platform, although it has clearly been finessed into a lower profile than most of the VW-badged EVs we’ve seen thus far. The familiar ID design cues are easy enough to pick out, and while the concept appears to miss out on the stylish look and unquestionable presence of the J1-based Taycan and GT, it does at least promise an excellent drag coefficient, and is unlikely to be underpowered given it is destined to sit atop VW’s current all-electric line-up. 

“With the ID. AERO show car, we are revealing a preview of the next member of the ID. family. A car with an emotional and at the same time extremely aerodynamic design, a range of over 600 kilometres, an extraordinary amount of space and a premium interior,” says Ralf Brandstätter, CEO of Volkswagen Passenger Cars. “With our ACCELERATE strategy, we are intensively driving forward the electrification of our model range. Following the ID.4, this model will be our next global car for Europe, China and the US. 

Despite the order quoted there, the production version of the ID.Aero is expected to go on sale in China first as VW is seeking to ‘become the leading supplier of sustainable vehicles’ in the world’s largest market. Given its overall size, and the prospective capaciousness of the cabin - especially in the back - it’s very likely that VW has conceived the ID.Aero with a Chinese audience front of mind. Nevertheless, with production of a European version already scheduled for an unspecified time in 2023, be in no doubt that VW’s largest family model since the Arteon will coming to a VW dealership near you in the future. 


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Evil.soup

Original Poster:

3,595 posts

205 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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I genuinely believe that with mainstream brands finally creating every day saloon cars, the domination of Tesla is in trouble.

Im not an EV fan, but it's good to see more and more "normal" brands making these cars now.

Deerfoot

4,902 posts

184 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Evil.soup said:
I genuinely believe that with mainstream brands finally creating every day saloon cars, the domination of Tesla is in trouble.
Tesla`s charging infrastructure will ensure they remain dominant for some time I think.

Silvanus

5,223 posts

23 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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I'm assuming with the ever increasing ID range, the conventional line-up of cars like the Passat and Golf will be phased out over time? Would there be any point in an EV Golf and an ID hatchback? I've also heard rumours there will be a retro ID with nods to the beetle

ajap1979

8,014 posts

187 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Deerfoot said:
Evil.soup said:
I genuinely believe that with mainstream brands finally creating every day saloon cars, the domination of Tesla is in trouble.
Tesla`s charging infrastructure will ensure they remain dominant for some time I think.
The charging infrastructure that will soon be useable by all EVs?

rampageturke

2,622 posts

162 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Looks very large

Gez79

217 posts

183 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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But aren't they being made to share their charging network?

Wadeski

8,157 posts

213 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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It looks not only very big, but also quite tall? Crossover proportions more than a traditional sedan?

ChrisCh86

850 posts

44 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Yes please VW. A nice clean design, with no fake grills and good aero.

Please sort the software though and get rid of the stupid temperature slider that's present in the ID3 / Golf 8. It's terrible!

Evil.soup

Original Poster:

3,595 posts

205 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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ajap1979 said:
Deerfoot said:
Evil.soup said:
I genuinely believe that with mainstream brands finally creating every day saloon cars, the domination of Tesla is in trouble.
Tesla`s charging infrastructure will ensure they remain dominant for some time I think.
The charging infrastructure that will soon be useable by all EVs?
It would be a crazy move for Tesla if they did not make them accessible to the rest of the EV world.

Granted, the current infrastructure isn't there yet, but it won't be far along and just seems to sound the final whistle for Tesla dominance.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Wadeski said:
It looks not only very big, but also quite tall? Crossover proportions more than a traditional sedan?
Chances are it's battery under the floor, hence a big profile.

Deerfoot

4,902 posts

184 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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ajap1979 said:
The charging infrastructure that will soon be useable by all EVs?
I had no idea that was on the cards to be honest..

raspy

1,470 posts

94 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Exciting stuff. Thank Goodness Chinese buyers still like large saloons with decent amounts of rear legroom.

McAndy

12,451 posts

177 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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This one interests me! A family car that isn't an SUV, and is thus more efficient in its use of materials and movement through the air. I'd love to see boot space and prices, and then have a nose around a physical one! Good step, VW.

manracer

1,544 posts

97 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Evil.soup said:
I genuinely believe that with mainstream brands finally creating every day saloon cars, the domination of Tesla is in trouble.

Im not an EV fan, but it's good to see more and more "normal" brands making these cars now.
Have you used the touch screen in any VAG vehicle of late?

Likewise have you used the touch screens in a Tesla?

I have owned both and VAG still have a very long way to go IMO.

Im not saying Tesla are uncatchable and I admit the Tesla fit and finish leaves a lot on the table, but from the VAG side of things, they aren't amazing either.

Then we have the charging network, then the service requirements that VAG still push to name a few.

Have VAG sorted proper one pedal driving yet?

abzmike

8,378 posts

106 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Looks quite nice... As said, clean lines, I'm seeing a bit of a mix of VW and Audi, probably A6-ish sort of length, and easily £50K plus to start.

tim-jxv5n

238 posts

96 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Will it have a hatchback like an a5 sportback?

highway

1,955 posts

260 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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What a bland design.
Tesla design is also bland.
Why would Tesla choose to open up their charger network to non Tesla cars? How is that good for them?

JonnyVTEC

3,005 posts

175 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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highway said:
What a bland design.
Tesla design is also bland.
Why would Tesla choose to open up their charger network to non Tesla cars? How is that good for them?
  • opens Tesla app to see “charge your non Tesla”
Same answer as before to get a chunk of government HV grid assistance they can’t provide a monopoly service, plus for most people once they have had a Tesla they realise just how little they use it anyway.

JD

2,774 posts

228 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Silvanus said:
I'm assuming with the ever increasing ID range, the conventional line-up of cars like the Passat and Golf will be phased out over time? Would there be any point in an EV Golf and an ID hatchback? I've also heard rumours there will be a retro ID with nods to the beetle
The Passat saloon has already gone, this is the new Passat saloon.

Vee12V

1,333 posts

160 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Looks incredibly bland to my eyes.