Nürburgring 2023
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RSbandit said:
CarFreitag just seems to be one giant traffic jam on the roads around the track , can never understand the appeal tbh.
Only ever witnessed it once. Looked positively insane. I was watching at Breidscheid. Three or four cars abreast at times. Might have misremembered - could only have been two or three abreast - but it looked chaotic.Digga said:
RSbandit said:
CarFreitag just seems to be one giant traffic jam on the roads around the track , can never understand the appeal tbh.
Only ever witnessed it once. Looked positively insane. I was watching at Breidscheid. Three or four cars abreast at times. Might have misremembered - could only have been two or three abreast - but it looked chaotic.I experienced Karfreitag for the first time, and never ever again.
I've been going to the Ring for almost a decade and never queued so much in my life, it was a real buzz kill for the whole weekend.
The final straw was a Red Fiesta dropping coolant and crashing at Galgenkopf. I decided to back off at Pflanzgarten 2, which is the first time I have backed off during a lap and I safely moved over. Thankfully I did, otherwise, I might have joined the Fiesta.
It was still a great weekend, and my M2 was absolutely epic.
I've been going to the Ring for almost a decade and never queued so much in my life, it was a real buzz kill for the whole weekend.
The final straw was a Red Fiesta dropping coolant and crashing at Galgenkopf. I decided to back off at Pflanzgarten 2, which is the first time I have backed off during a lap and I safely moved over. Thankfully I did, otherwise, I might have joined the Fiesta.
It was still a great weekend, and my M2 was absolutely epic.
C70R said:
From the videos online it looks like a combination of attention-seekers and people driving far beyond their limits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0AKK7n4oKk&ab...
I hope the tosser at 7m:30s eventually pulled over rather than spreading all that crap along the track.RSbandit said:
The chaos on track is almost a given when there are so many cars but I was more talking about the crazy traffic on the roads near the circuit ….I just don’t get the attraction at all .
No worse than an Ikea car park on a bank holiday weekend 
But I agree, and tend to stay away from the long bank holiday weekends. If I do go (usually as part of a longer trip to void the peak ferry/chunnel/hotel prices) then I'll get a few laps in first thing and then bugger off somewhere for the rest of the day...and maybe do a few laps in the evening.
But then I have more fun/quality on a late season weekend when there's the risk of freezing fog or frost keeping it closed until lunchtime...and in some cases you won't see another car on track...and in one specific case I got back to the car park after 3 laps of my 'private track' and there were only 4 other vehicles there.
Edited by mmm-five on Tuesday 11th April 17:18
C70R said:
From the videos online it looks like a combination of attention-seekers and people driving far beyond their limits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0AKK7n4oKk&ab...
Yes, but not all of them, because I wasn’t there. Networkgeek said:
I experienced Karfreitag for the first time, and never ever again.
Love going to Karfreitag, but always as a spectator, never as a driverLast year the weather was amazing, a bit colder this Easter
Always good to take some refreshments and have a picnic like the locals
Arklight said:
I'm not really a McD person, but I'm really glad that's going to be developed at last, it's a brilliant site that's been wasted for years
ukkid35 said:
Love going to Karfreitag, but always as a spectator, never as a driver
Last year the weather was amazing, a bit colder this Easter
Always good to take some refreshments and have a picnic like the locals
Couldn't agree more, it's a defo a weekend for spectating. Which isn't really for me, as it's a very long drive over and I want to get some laps in. But either way, it was interesting to see how crazy busy the Ring can be, but I won't be returning for Karfreitag.Last year the weather was amazing, a bit colder this Easter
Always good to take some refreshments and have a picnic like the locals
The atmosphere was pretty great though, everyone seemed stoked to just be there.
NIgt3 said:
Glad his car wasn’t too bad, from watching the video I cant really understand how it happened, didnt seem to do anything wrong 
Says it was probably a cold tyre on the offside rear which let go when fully loaded...but it's the Nordschleife, so it might have just been a bit of coolant/oil/crud on the track too.mmm-five said:
Says it was probably a cold tyre on the offside rear which let go when fully loaded...but it's the Nordschleife, so it might have just been a bit of coolant/oil/crud on the track too.
That was also my thinking. He was pushing the Golf pretty hard by the time he got to Adenauer Forst, I don't see how a tyre could be cold at this point. Plus, he did a warm-up lap. I could be talking utter garbage, but a cold tyre seems unlikely.
Networkgeek said:
That was also my thinking.
He was pushing the Golf pretty hard by the time he got to Adenauer Forst, I don't see how a tyre could be cold at this point. Plus, he did a warm-up lap. I could be talking utter garbage, but a cold tyre seems unlikely.
Apart from being a little bit further to the Right, I don't really have any other suggestions.He was pushing the Golf pretty hard by the time he got to Adenauer Forst, I don't see how a tyre could be cold at this point. Plus, he did a warm-up lap. I could be talking utter garbage, but a cold tyre seems unlikely.
I was at Spa the previous 2 days, rears were sliding if I trailbraked into a corner to rotate the car, but it was always planned.
As plenty have said, perhaps it's just a slightly colder rear right, less sunshine, a different line (slightly) and just a bit of bad luck.
If you are really bored, I did a video myself, with a side by side of a previous lap.
The downside is more of me talking
Wh00sher said:
Networkgeek said:
That was also my thinking.
He was pushing the Golf pretty hard by the time he got to Adenauer Forst, I don't see how a tyre could be cold at this point. Plus, he did a warm-up lap. I could be talking utter garbage, but a cold tyre seems unlikely.
Apart from being a little bit further to the Right, I don't really have any other suggestions.He was pushing the Golf pretty hard by the time he got to Adenauer Forst, I don't see how a tyre could be cold at this point. Plus, he did a warm-up lap. I could be talking utter garbage, but a cold tyre seems unlikely.
I was at Spa the previous 2 days, rears were sliding if I trailbraked into a corner to rotate the car, but it was always planned.
As plenty have said, perhaps it's just a slightly colder rear right, less sunshine, a different line (slightly) and just a bit of bad luck.
If you are really bored, I did a video myself, with a side by side of a previous lap.
The downside is more of me talking
Looks really odd, if nothing is broken in the rear suspension it looks just so sudden, like you had the wheels on the dirt to far out, or as others said some fluid or something in that spot on the track. I ran over a spot of coolant once at the ring and it was bloddy scary, stayed on the black but not by much, but with all your laps you must have tried it all by now
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