Nürburgring 2023

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CKY

1,387 posts

16 months

Wednesday 1st November 2023
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Kev_Mk3 said:
Nope from Roberts own words.

I know that the staff have been whittled down over the last few months and the fleet has stopped from today being rentals but looks like they are not returning.
Bit of a shame, always seemed like a 'good guy' who had a genuine passion for the cars and for driving. Have to say though owning a fleet of track cars open for any spanner with a driving licence to walk in, rent and then wipe down any barrier on the circuit they like holds 0 appeal to me, be interesting to see as a hotelier whether he keeps the residency side of Apex going.

fridaypassion

8,582 posts

229 months

Wednesday 1st November 2023
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I think it was a toy business for Robert probably just had his fun now.

Kev_Mk3

2,782 posts

96 months

Wednesday 1st November 2023
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fridaypassion said:
I think it was a toy business for Robert probably just had his fun now.
Seems so and this was all said while he's sat by the pool looking at his new boat in Florida.

I have a lot of time for Robert TBF

Digga

40,352 posts

284 months

Wednesday 1st November 2023
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Yes, I have a deal of respect for Robert. It also surprises me little that he's eventually returned to the US. Nothing in that implies anything about him or Germany, just that that's his home.

I think it was death by numerous cuts for Apex. They lost the taxi gig, but carried on with the rentals, but are possibly a bit too small to cover overheads easily. With inflation, especially wages, I imagine it's been the final straw.

Kev_Mk3

2,782 posts

96 months

Wednesday 1st November 2023
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Digga said:
Yes, I have a deal of respect for Robert. It also surprises me little that he's eventually returned to the US. Nothing in that implies anything about him or Germany, just that that's his home.

I think it was death by numerous cuts for Apex. They lost the taxi gig, but carried on with the rentals, but are possibly a bit too small to cover overheads easily. With inflation, especially wages, I imagine it's been the final straw.
They have a taxi contract though and havent used it

RSbandit

2,615 posts

133 months

Wednesday 1st November 2023
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So Apex is pretty much being wound up...that's a shame for the employees. Always thought it was a tough area to break into as RSR seem to have that mkt sown up given their huge fleet and long client list. I had a taxi lap in the Apex GT2RS MR driven by David Pittard...unforgettable experience.

Digga

40,352 posts

284 months

Wednesday 1st November 2023
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RSbandit said:
So Apex is pretty much being wound up...that's a shame for the employees. Always thought it was a tough area to break into as RSR seem to have that mkt sown up given their huge fleet and long client list. I had a taxi lap in the Apex GT2RS MR driven by David Pittard...unforgettable experience.
I bet!

A friend somehow managed to get Pittard in his car instructing for a session at DN in May. He was a decent driver anyway, but was really flying. This just 2 or 3 weeks before Pittard won the NLS 24hr in the Frikadelli Ferrari. At the time, he didn;t even know if he had a drive, he reckoned.

ColdZinc

55 posts

61 months

Sunday 5th November 2023
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The website calendar now says TF is open every Sunday for the rest of the year. Is it a glitch? It says the same for every Sunday in 2024 (till 3 November).

ImbackYo

223 posts

13 months

Sunday 5th November 2023
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Not sure if this is the right thread but does anyone know the confirmed date for Car-freitag in 2024? I know that good Friday next year in Germany is Friday 29 Mar 2024 but does that always coincide with the nurburgring dates?

We had a fabulous 3 days last April and would love to do it again.

Thanks.

Adenauer

18,581 posts

237 months

Monday 6th November 2023
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ColdZinc said:
The website calendar now says TF is open every Sunday for the rest of the year. Is it a glitch? It says the same for every Sunday in 2024 (till 3 November).
Next weekend is the last.

Kev_Mk3

2,782 posts

96 months

Monday 6th November 2023
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ImbackYo said:
Not sure if this is the right thread but does anyone know the confirmed date for Car-freitag in 2024? I know that good Friday next year in Germany is Friday 29 Mar 2024 but does that always coincide with the nurburgring dates?

We had a fabulous 3 days last April and would love to do it again.

Thanks.
No keep a eye next month though and IMO worst weekend to go ever

RSbandit

2,615 posts

133 months

Monday 6th November 2023
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Never understood the obsession with going to Car Freitag...roads absolutely gridlocked for miles what a waste of time!

C70R

17,596 posts

105 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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RSbandit said:
Never understood the obsession with going to Car Freitag...roads absolutely gridlocked for miles what a waste of time!
I've never been, but everything I've seen from various photos and videos looks like a collection of people who are there to be seen, rather than to drive.

It looks like a giant McDonald's car park.

ImbackYo

223 posts

13 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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The reason I like going is because I go and sightsee and generally chlil out. I'm there a few times a year, on this weekend i drive something a little more relaxing with some pals and we do a night in Amsterdam on the way.

Something different.

fridaypassion

8,582 posts

229 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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I turned up the day after one year on business rather than pleasure the road from the village down to the entrance was absolute carnage with fold up chairs beer and BBQ stuff just dumped and left. God knows what the main viewing areas were like. It looked like the aftermath of a festival!

I have mentioned this in this thread before but I don't think even our esteemed self appointed ring legends actually knew the answer... When did this phenomenon begin? It's certainly something from the last 6/7 years no?

Only info I can really find:

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carfreitag

Looks like a general event around the country with just one of a few meeting points being the Nurburgring? It was certainly not a thing going back years.

Probably would make a decent time to visit if not going on track it's certainly a spectacle if nothing else.

Digga

40,352 posts

284 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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I got there a day early for a track day in 2019 and saw their Bank Holiday and that was bad enough. Cars 3 wide through Brunchen.

No idea when Car Freitag blew up.

CedricN

820 posts

146 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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I was there over Easter in 2011, it was absolute carnage aswell, every road in the region was more like a parking. We only drove for the first hour or two in the morning, then spectaded the circus the rest of the day, Friday of course the worst. I guess its not better nowdays smile i recommend renting an mtb and doing a lap around the outside of the track, you reach some very cool viewing spots along the ride.

fridaypassion

8,582 posts

229 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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Easter weekend I guess if the weather was there would always have been popular as the first 4 day weekend of the year?

ukkid35

6,188 posts

174 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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fridaypassion said:
I turned up the day after one year on business rather than pleasure the road from the village down to the entrance was absolute carnage with fold up chairs beer and BBQ stuff just dumped and left. God knows what the main viewing areas were like. It looked like the aftermath of a festival!

I have mentioned this in this thread before but I don't think even our esteemed self appointed ring legends actually knew the answer... When did this phenomenon begin? It's certainly something from the last 6/7 years no?

Only info I can really find:

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carfreitag

Looks like a general event around the country with just one of a few meeting points being the Nurburgring? It was certainly not a thing going back years.

Probably would make a decent time to visit if not going on track it's certainly a spectacle if nothing else.
Karfreitag has been a thing for ages, I remember it from at least ten years ago, and krallicious was warning about it on here in 2011

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...



fridaypassion

8,582 posts

229 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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Good find. That's the very earliest reference I have seen