Nurburgring 2024

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ukkid35

6,204 posts

174 months

Wednesday 3rd January
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Olivera said:
As much as I like the Cerb - IIRC the integral roll cage might do something in a crash, e.g. stop the roof completely caving in, but otherwise it's far more primitive and flimsy than an FIA approved cage or even an OEM cage (e.g. Porsche).
Agreed, but it's still better than being in most other TVRs in a roll

I have no intention of testing that theory, but I guess no one does

C70R

17,596 posts

105 months

Tuesday 6th February
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Question for those who've been to DN trackdays.

I'm popping my Ring trackday cherry with the double-header in September this year, and wondered what other folks have done about instructors in the past.

I've driven a fair few TF laps, but I deliberately chose the two-day trackday to maximise seat time and focus on learning the track properly. Ideally I'd really love to spend the first morning lapping with an instructor in the car, but I don't know what options are available to me.

Are there instructors local to the Ring that you can hire by the hour/day/lap? Do DN have any affiliated instructors that they work with? Are any typically present during their trackdays?

TIA.

Digga

40,438 posts

284 months

Tuesday 6th February
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C70R said:
Question for those who've been to DN trackdays.

I'm popping my Ring trackday cherry with the double-header in September this year, and wondered what other folks have done about instructors in the past.

I've driven a fair few TF laps, but I deliberately chose the two-day trackday to maximise seat time and focus on learning the track properly. Ideally I'd really love to spend the first morning lapping with an instructor in the car, but I don't know what options are available to me.

Are there instructors local to the Ring that you can hire by the hour/day/lap? Do DN have any affiliated instructors that they work with? Are any typically present during their trackdays?

TIA.
There are quite a few decent ones, more than a couple of whom post on here. So they may chime in.

Whoever you use, you'd need to book. I'd say go with a half day of instruction and then practice the rest of the time

From personal experience, the only one I have used and he was utterly superb, was a local guy called Laurin Johlen: https://johlen-coaching.de/

C70R

17,596 posts

105 months

Tuesday 6th February
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Digga said:
C70R said:
Question for those who've been to DN trackdays.

I'm popping my Ring trackday cherry with the double-header in September this year, and wondered what other folks have done about instructors in the past.

I've driven a fair few TF laps, but I deliberately chose the two-day trackday to maximise seat time and focus on learning the track properly. Ideally I'd really love to spend the first morning lapping with an instructor in the car, but I don't know what options are available to me.

Are there instructors local to the Ring that you can hire by the hour/day/lap? Do DN have any affiliated instructors that they work with? Are any typically present during their trackdays?

TIA.
There are quite a few decent ones, more than a couple of whom post on here. So they may chime in.

Whoever you use, you'd need to book. I'd say go with a half day of instruction and then practice the rest of the time

From personal experience, the only one I have used and he was utterly superb, was a local guy called Laurin Johlen: https://johlen-coaching.de/
Thanks kindly. I'll message Laurin and check his availability.

If anyone else has any suggestions, I'm all ears. If you'd prefer to DM, that's fine too.

Kev_Mk3

2,800 posts

96 months

Tuesday 6th February
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Digga said:
C70R said:
Question for those who've been to DN trackdays.

I'm popping my Ring trackday cherry with the double-header in September this year, and wondered what other folks have done about instructors in the past.

I've driven a fair few TF laps, but I deliberately chose the two-day trackday to maximise seat time and focus on learning the track properly. Ideally I'd really love to spend the first morning lapping with an instructor in the car, but I don't know what options are available to me.

Are there instructors local to the Ring that you can hire by the hour/day/lap? Do DN have any affiliated instructors that they work with? Are any typically present during their trackdays?

TIA.
There are quite a few decent ones, more than a couple of whom post on here. So they may chime in.

Whoever you use, you'd need to book. I'd say go with a half day of instruction and then practice the rest of the time

From personal experience, the only one I have used and he was utterly superb, was a local guy called Laurin Johlen: https://johlen-coaching.de/
+1 for Laurin

Calza

2,005 posts

116 months

Tuesday 6th February
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All booked for a trip 23rd - 25th March.

Quite early on so praying for good weather, we shall see!

Steve H

5,371 posts

196 months

Tuesday 6th February
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C70R said:
Question for those who've been to DN trackdays.

I'm popping my Ring trackday cherry with the double-header in September this year, and wondered what other folks have done about instructors in the past.

I've driven a fair few TF laps, but I deliberately chose the two-day trackday to maximise seat time and focus on learning the track properly. Ideally I'd really love to spend the first morning lapping with an instructor in the car, but I don't know what options are available to me.

Are there instructors local to the Ring that you can hire by the hour/day/lap? Do DN have any affiliated instructors that they work with? Are any typically present during their trackdays?

TIA.
The first morning will inevitably be the busiest time for the instructors on an event but it will be worth messaging Darren at DN to see what he has available if you can’t get sorted directly.

C70R

17,596 posts

105 months

Tuesday 6th February
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Steve H said:
C70R said:
Question for those who've been to DN trackdays.

I'm popping my Ring trackday cherry with the double-header in September this year, and wondered what other folks have done about instructors in the past.

I've driven a fair few TF laps, but I deliberately chose the two-day trackday to maximise seat time and focus on learning the track properly. Ideally I'd really love to spend the first morning lapping with an instructor in the car, but I don't know what options are available to me.

Are there instructors local to the Ring that you can hire by the hour/day/lap? Do DN have any affiliated instructors that they work with? Are any typically present during their trackdays?

TIA.
The first morning will inevitably be the busiest time for the instructors on an event but it will be worth messaging Darren at DN to see what he has available if you can’t get sorted directly.
Thanks! Just to clarity, I have the option to book instruction through DN directly? If so, I hadn't spotted that on the booking info.

alicrozier

550 posts

238 months

Tuesday 6th February
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I'll be on those DN dates also, looking forward to it!

Here is the link to the DN provided instruction, some well known and respected instructors.
https://www.dnevents.com/event-dates/nurburgring-i...

I've engaged David Pittard on a DN event in the past, he is superb.
https://davidpittard.co.uk/

C70R

17,596 posts

105 months

Tuesday 6th February
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alicrozier said:
I'll be on those DN dates also, looking forward to it!

Here is the link to the DN provided instruction, some well known and respected instructors.
https://www.dnevents.com/event-dates/nurburgring-i...

I've engaged David Pittard on a DN event in the past, he is superb.
https://davidpittard.co.uk/
I'm absolutely blind, thank you. Message sent.

I have a feeling I had a passenger lap from David in the Apex M3, one lap before it broke down on track with some friends in it.

Edited by C70R on Tuesday 6th February 16:31

ukkid35

6,204 posts

174 months

Tuesday 6th February
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C70R said:
alicrozier said:
I'll be on those DN dates also, looking forward to it!

Here is the link to the DN provided instruction, some well known and respected instructors.
https://www.dnevents.com/event-dates/nurburgring-i...

I've engaged David Pittard on a DN event in the past, he is superb.
https://davidpittard.co.uk/
I'm absolutely blind, thank you.
A few years ago Andy Gülden was giving PAX laps in a Vantage GT4 as part of a free instruction package that Darren was offering at the time

He also does the track walks as well, and that's worth doing if it's an option



RSbandit

Original Poster:

2,627 posts

133 months

Tuesday 6th February
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C70R said:
Thanks kindly. I'll message Laurin and check his availability.

If anyone else has any suggestions, I'm all ears. If you'd prefer to DM, that's fine too.
I usually use RSR for instruction, lots of knowledgeable and personable guys there. Getting a half day in early on day 1 is the best bet, leaves you with plenty of time to work on what you've been told.

ukkid35

6,204 posts

174 months

Tuesday 6th February
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I really benefited from the coaching from doogalman

Probably helped that I'd known him for several years before, but if he's available you can't go wrong


Digga

40,438 posts

284 months

Wednesday 7th February
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ukkid35 said:
I really benefited from the coaching from doogalman

Probably helped that I'd known him for several years before, but if he's available you can't go wrong

Yes, I'd heard good things about his coahing too, although like any other instructor, it all comes down to availability on the day.

Kev_Mk3

2,800 posts

96 months

Wednesday 7th February
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Digga said:
ukkid35 said:
I really benefited from the coaching from doogalman

Probably helped that I'd known him for several years before, but if he's available you can't go wrong

Yes, I'd heard good things about his coahing too, although like any other instructor, it all comes down to availability on the day.
Sadly Doogalman is no longer at the ring frown

Digga

40,438 posts

284 months

Wednesday 7th February
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alicrozier said:
I've engaged David Pittard on a DN event in the past, he is superb.
https://davidpittard.co.uk/
La Souce off PH used him when we were at DN last May. This was all but 2 and a bit weeks before teh N24 race and I can remember David saying he did not know what he'd be driving. Whether he had a couple of offers, or was genuinely in the dark, I don't know, but he went on to win it in some style in the Frikadeli Ferrari.

doogalman

705 posts

246 months

Wednesday 7th February
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ukkid35 said:
I really benefited from the coaching from doogalman

Probably helped that I'd known him for several years before, but if he's available you can't go wrong

Thanks Paul.
Sadly I’m not there now. Retired and loving it.
But seriously anyone wanting instruction would gain so much from having an instructor on board.
The instructors that are supplied direct from DN are all top notch guys and occasionally girls. I was always very careful who I would use while providing instructors for the events.
There have been so many instructors that have cut their teeth on the ring, the majority are all good guys but there’s been a few rogue ones over the years and I never utilised their services.
The likes of Laurin and David are also top notch but they like all the other good ones are always busy so book early. That also goes for The DN instruction as instructors are normally booked out quite quick and any extra lead time for Darren to organize numbers is appreciated and you will also not be disappointed.



Edited by doogalman on Wednesday 7th February 20:56

doogalman

705 posts

246 months

Wednesday 7th February
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C70R said:
Thanks! Just to clarity, I have the option to book instruction through DN directly? If so, I hadn't spotted that on the booking info.
If you can’t find it just email Darren at DN

Olivera

7,244 posts

240 months

Wednesday 7th February
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doogalman said:
What did you make of the Cerb on the ring? I'm interested to hear!

Wh00sher

1,602 posts

219 months

Wednesday 7th February
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I'll see you in September! I'll be there for both days. I completely agree with you about going for 2 days, it hugely reduces the pressure to 'get a lap in' that you can feel on a single day event.
Although saying that, I'll be there in May for the one day event too biggrin

I definitely suggest you take up the option of the free instruction.smile

May I suggest Andy Carlile as an alternative instructor. He's not based out there anymore, but has been out for a few DN events and is available for instruction. Drop me a DM and I'll put you in touch if you want more info.

If you don't know who he is, Google Guy Martin in the van, Andy was his instructor in the passenger seat. He's also still the fastest ever bike rider around the ring. As well as a good friend of mine, but there are plenty others who will vouch for him and his instruction.

Edited by Wh00sher on Wednesday 7th February 21:32