Nurburgring 2024

[doogalman]

fridaypassion said:

doogalman said:

Whatever you go for be it for tf or a trackday, read the small print very carefully. Chances are it will only cover your car and not cover liability for damage to other vehicles or damages to infrastructure or persons if you are deemed to be at fault.

Trackday this Roy it's just the car that's insured is my understanding? I think you can get additional cover for the furniture?

If the trackday is DN or circuit days that’s good. But be warned if it is another operator out there as often in the small print of the trackday disclaimer you are still liable for 3rd party damages even though it’s a trackday.

[fridaypassion]

DN it is yeah

[RemarkLima]

Looking at the insurance thread and it seems to be a high risk thing right??

Anyway, we're looking to do a bit of a European loop and may stop by the 'ring for a tourist day, can you just buy credits on the day and are they instantly available on your account / QR code?

Is there anything else you need other knowing you're seemingly liable for everything? It's been probably 15 years or so since I've last been so imagine there's a few changes and the website isn't the easiest to get concise info from.

TIA!

[fridaypassion]

TF Laps yes you are fully liable for anything they can chuck at you. My advice would be to take it very steady keep an eye on your mirrors and DO NOT TIME LAPS and you'll be ok.

[Rowe]

Anyone booked the Hull ferry for this year?
WTF is going on with the prices

[fridaypassion]

DN is in summer holidays this year will have to have a word with Darren about this!

[Calza]

Has anyone used any of these GPS apps to help guide round the ring?

I'd never use such a thing to try and do a "fast" lap but it'd be nice to have some idea where the next corner goes given half seem blind.

[mmm-five]

Calza said:

Has anyone used any of these GPS apps to help guide round the ring?

I'd never use such a thing to try and do a "fast" lap but it'd be nice to have some idea where the next corner goes given half seem blind.

I wouldn't.

I'd recommend watching lots of in-car video, and/or driving the circuit in a sim/game...or just drive as if there's a car stopped after every blind corner, and then build up your speed slowly (and watch out for yellow flags, and faster cars approaching) - and stay on the right, as you'll not be going fast enough (even if it feels like you are) to have to use the 'racing line' where it's on the left.

You could also buy the circuit guide if you want...but be aware that it will change slightly every year/season as they re-surface/re-profile the track.
https://www.circuitguides.com/shop/uncategorized/n...

[RemarkLima]

Probably better to get a PS5 or XBox and just do a load of laps... The tourist track has just been released on Forza motorsport, and they'll at least tell you when to go left and when to go right.

[Digga]

RemarkLima said:

Probably better to get a PS5 or XBox and just do a load of laps... The tourist track has just been released on Forza motorsport, and they'll at least tell you when to go left and when to go right.

Bear in mind that even with the simulated guide lines on, Forza Motorsport is not 100% correct on either line or braking points.

Add into that the gradients, cambers, surface changes and bumps and a game is excellent, but nowhere near fully realistic or indicative of lap time.

[RemarkLima]

Digga said:

RemarkLima said:

Probably better to get a PS5 or XBox and just do a load of laps... The tourist track has just been released on Forza motorsport, and they'll at least tell you when to go left and when to go right.

Bear in mind that even with the simulated guide lines on, Forza Motorsport is not 100% correct on either line or braking points.

Add into that the gradients, cambers, surface changes and bumps and a game is excellent, but nowhere near fully realistic or indicative of lap time.

Absolutely, it's why I'd only ever use to have an idea of where to turn left and right - and hope to God you don't forget

On Forza I'm alright on the first third, then patchy up to the carousel, and then it all is all guess work... So a good reminder to go slowly and treat it like a B road filled with nutters!

[ukkid35]

Calza said:

Has anyone used any of these GPS apps to help guide round the ring?

I'd never use such a thing to try and do a "fast" lap but it'd be nice to have some idea where the next corner goes given half seem blind.

The safest way to get as familiar as possible is to do lots of PAX laps first

Some people criticise me for saying that, but I can't understand why

[fridaypassion]

The best way to familiarise yourself with the circuit is doing laps on the playstation. Just don't try and drive all the corners as quick in real life!

another tip for a casual lap or two is to brake for corners where you see kerbs and not for corners without.

[Digga]

RemarkLima said:

Digga said:

RemarkLima said:

Probably better to get a PS5 or XBox and just do a load of laps... The tourist track has just been released on Forza motorsport, and they'll at least tell you when to go left and when to go right.

Bear in mind that even with the simulated guide lines on, Forza Motorsport is not 100% correct on either line or braking points.

Add into that the gradients, cambers, surface changes and bumps and a game is excellent, but nowhere near fully realistic or indicative of lap time.

Absolutely, it's why I'd only ever use to have an idea of where to turn left and right - and hope to God you don't forget

On Forza I'm alright on the first third, then patchy up to the carousel, and then it all is all guess work... So a good reminder to go slowly and treat it like a B road filled with nutters!

Oddly, that's kind of how my knowledge developed on the actual circuit. Hard for the brain to really learn it all at once, and inevitably I felt that (mostly) the last bits I got were the later sections.

You may also find, as I did, there's the odd bit where, wierdly, because you've seen so mamny videos and played so many games, you feel extremely comfortable first lap. Foxholes, for me, was that.

It's the blind crests that do for most and, as you say, knowing what immediately follows is the key.

Ukkid35 is dead right about thepax laps too.

[RSbandit]

fridaypassion said:

DN is in summer holidays this year will have to have a word with Darren about this!

Yes early to mid July much better but on the plus side it coincides with the F1 at Spa this year so I’m taking in the GP on the way back on Sunday.

[Jaybmw]

Evening lads..just a few questions if I may. In September I'm gonna take my lad for his first time to the ring. Over the years I've drove over myself but this year I'm going to fly, coming from IRE is just a pain. I was thinking into Frankfurt and rent a car for 3 days , Any recommendations? Something with a bit of pace will be fine 330/D gti or the likes. I seen an M3 for 200ish a day but it's a bit overkill. The next issue is I assume I can't take this car on TF so I'll have to rent a ring car. A Clio, swift or the likes is fine I'm not trackday vet I've sub 20 laps on the ring so big power is wasted on me. Ring freaks or rsr etc ? Then after all this I'll do the museums etc.

[Kev_Mk3]

Jaybmw said:

Evening lads..just a few questions if I may. In September I'm gonna take my lad for his first time to the ring. Over the years I've drove over myself but this year I'm going to fly, coming from IRE is just a pain. I was thinking into Frankfurt and rent a car for 3 days , Any recommendations? Something with a bit of pace will be fine 330/D gti or the likes. I seen an M3 for 200ish a day but it's a bit overkill. The next issue is I assume I can't take this car on TF so I'll have to rent a ring car. A Clio, swift or the likes is fine I'm not trackday vet I've sub 20 laps on the ring so big power is wasted on me. Ring freaks or rsr etc ? Then after all this I'll do the museums etc.

Rent4Ring and a mini - done. Get a briefing also.

[Kev_Mk3]

Rowe said:

Anyone booked the Hull ferry for this year?
WTF is going on with the prices

Yes prices have gone up & service down hill. Friend went to use it 2 weeks ago and they informed him 3 days before the crossing it was cancelled (yet it was on the bbc website 2 weeks before saying the same) They would move the crossing but no compensation not a thing - exactly like when they sacked the staff...............

I was on it last week. About £100 more a crossing now, brasserie prices are ALOT more and the food is terrible. The cafe / costa bar now sells pizzas which is rammed as used the most now.

Still handy crossing but prices up, staff still crap and even more so dont care now. 2023 prices went up a bit but did have a few offers on but for 2024 no early bird booking nothing.

[Jamescrs]

Rowe said:

Anyone booked the Hull ferry for this year?
WTF is going on with the prices

Have booked two trips on the Hull ferry this year, one in May for a Ring trip and one in August for a family holiday, prices are really high this year and no discounts available, in the past they have done a discount in January but it didn't come this year.

I live in Leeds but if it continues next year I may go down to Dover and cross into France instead.

[Kev_Mk3]

Jamescrs said:

Rowe said:

Anyone booked the Hull ferry for this year?
WTF is going on with the prices

Have booked two trips on the Hull ferry this year, one in May for a Ring trip and one in August for a family holiday, prices are really high this year and no discounts available, in the past they have done a discount in January but it didn't come this year.

I live in Leeds but if it continues next year I may go down to Dover and cross into France instead.

I was going to use it in August but the cost was mental so changed the holiday. I'm actually going to go to Spa in November and driving to Dover - Dunkirk to fill up with goodies on the way back. Thankfully in my daily not track car so not as bad, still not looking forward to it mind.....