Anglesey Circuit has banned all EVs/Hybrids from trackdays
Discussion
Anglesey should allow EV drivers back on the circuit but apply a nominal charge per lap of say £12.50
This would compensate for the increased wear and tear from the vastly heavier EVs on the track surface
The admin burden on the circuit can also be further reduced by linking the charging system to each cars registration plate using data from the DVLA and having cameras on the start finish straight to record the number of times each plate passes a fixed location
This would compensate for the increased wear and tear from the vastly heavier EVs on the track surface
The admin burden on the circuit can also be further reduced by linking the charging system to each cars registration plate using data from the DVLA and having cameras on the start finish straight to record the number of times each plate passes a fixed location
1781cc said:
Anglesea can do what they want, its their circuit, if they don't want EVs then fair enough, if you have an EV go somewhere else.
Could be that they have had enough of people on trackdays in EVs playing with their centre console 40" ipads and deem it distracting lol
No, it's definitely not that. Unless you're a bit dense.Could be that they have had enough of people on trackdays in EVs playing with their centre console 40" ipads and deem it distracting lol
PinkHouse said:
Anglesey should allow EV drivers back on the circuit but apply a nominal charge per lap of say £12.50
This would compensate for the increased wear and tear from the vastly heavier EVs on the track surface
The admin burden on the circuit can also be further reduced by linking the charging system to each cars registration plate using data from the DVLA and having cameras on the start finish straight to record the number of times each plate passes a fixed location
This would compensate for the increased wear and tear from the vastly heavier EVs on the track surface
The admin burden on the circuit can also be further reduced by linking the charging system to each cars registration plate using data from the DVLA and having cameras on the start finish straight to record the number of times each plate passes a fixed location
Perhaps check the weight of M3 Performance before saying that...I'm a very happy EV, user and once took mine round a track where it was fast and fun although in a very different way to a proper track car.
Anglesey, however, is the last place I'd suggest taking an EV, it's a tight twisty circuit and favours lightweight nimble cars. An EV is not going to be much fun there. Even hypercars like the McLaren P1 get mullered by lightweight cars round Anglesey.
Added to which there are very few chargers on Anglesey, certainly none near Tracmon.
If you really want to try an EV on track, go to a high speed circuit like Silverstone, Brands or Goodwood (where they even have DC charges in the 'pits'; admittedly for estate cars, but I'm sure you could pay to use them if you ask nicely.) Brands has a hotel very near by with 2 DC chargers.
The bigger problem is that this decision rules out any modern hybrid supercar such as the 296GTB, Artura, NSX etc. and the next generation of performance road cars will almost all be hybrid as well. What will they do when the 992 replacement is hybrid?
They're a small organisation though, so I bet this is purely related to insurance rather than any real risk assessment.
I wonder if this also will apply to private hires? If so, they're going to lose some business from magazines reviewing cars.
Anglesey, however, is the last place I'd suggest taking an EV, it's a tight twisty circuit and favours lightweight nimble cars. An EV is not going to be much fun there. Even hypercars like the McLaren P1 get mullered by lightweight cars round Anglesey.
Added to which there are very few chargers on Anglesey, certainly none near Tracmon.
If you really want to try an EV on track, go to a high speed circuit like Silverstone, Brands or Goodwood (where they even have DC charges in the 'pits'; admittedly for estate cars, but I'm sure you could pay to use them if you ask nicely.) Brands has a hotel very near by with 2 DC chargers.
The bigger problem is that this decision rules out any modern hybrid supercar such as the 296GTB, Artura, NSX etc. and the next generation of performance road cars will almost all be hybrid as well. What will they do when the 992 replacement is hybrid?
They're a small organisation though, so I bet this is purely related to insurance rather than any real risk assessment.
I wonder if this also will apply to private hires? If so, they're going to lose some business from magazines reviewing cars.
arkitan said:
I bet this is purely related to insurance rather than any real risk assessment.
I am not sure how you are separating those two though.Insurance is a gamble for any underwriter based on risk & likelihood wrt consequence.
An assessment based on risk & likelihood wrt consequence is a risk assessment.
C70R said:
Lordbenny said:
C70R said:
Only if you were dense enough to believe that it wasn't a non-hybrid diesel that caused that fire.
What caused the fire is inconsequential, the fact if the matter was that there were a LOT of burning EVs in the car park that could not be contained and that resulted in the whole £20,000,000 car park burning for days with all the cars inside being written off!The official report from Bedfordshire Fire Service said that the fire was "successfully extinguished" less than 12 hours after it started, and doesn't mention EVs.
But what would they know?
lornemalvo said:
I can't believe that a fire in a car park filled with ICE cars would not have been contained much quicker and with limited damage. It is likely, IMO, that EV cars made this an impossible task.
I suppose the Liverpool Land Rover fire in 2018 was also all down to EVs as well, was it?https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-4...
25,000 litres of petrol and diesel and a load of combustible plastics, tyres, and motor oils burns pretty well without the aid of some batteries.
sixor8 said:
Coincidence but an electric bus fire today in London will cause some frothing I expect. 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67944...
Especially from the EVangleists, who insist that EV fires are extremely rare and the whole thing is a non-issue. Look, here's some footage of "what really happened":https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67944...
Now don't mention it again, comrade, or your social credit score will be in minus numbers.
sixor8 said:
Coincidence but an electric bus fire today in London will cause some frothing I expect.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67944...
Which ironically doesn't look like the HV battery had anything to do with it...https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67944...
This is what a battery fire does to a bus.
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/article/2022/04/2...
Clivey said:
sixor8 said:
Coincidence but an electric bus fire today in London will cause some frothing I expect.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67944...
Especially from the EVangleists, who insist that EV fires are extremely rare and the whole thing is a non-issue. Look, here's some footage of "what really happened":https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67944...
Clivey said:
Especially from the EVangleists, who insist that EV fires are extremely rare and the whole thing is a non-issue. Look, here's some footage of "what really happened":
Now don't mention it again, comrade, or your social credit score will be in minus numbers.
Imagine being an adult and posting stuff like this.Now don't mention it again, comrade, or your social credit score will be in minus numbers.
I'd be more embarrassed than you seem to be.
LivLL said:
Still yet to see this rumour anywhere except a randoms Facebook post.
Anyone seen anything at all from the circuit yet?
It's not totally random, it's been posted by various TDO's. It's in their interest to spread the word. Anyone seen anything at all from the circuit yet?
I've not checked Anglesey circuit website to see if they've said anything though.
Evanivitch said:
BoRED S2upid said:
Makes sense you don’t want Marshalls / rescue crews getting zapped to death by a smashed up EV.
Typically, the battery is isolated the moment the 12V power is lost.The issue is their fire equipment is intended for fuel fires, not the large amount of water needed for EV battery fires.
Some batteries like LFP (Tesla standard range, several Chinese cars) have far lower risk of thermal runaway.
TX.
Pebbles167 said:
It's not totally random, it's been posted by various TDO's. It's in their interest to spread the word.
I've not checked Anglesey circuit website to see if they've said anything though.
Again, it all stems from one post on one persons Facebook page. Nothing from the circuit, on their website or socials at all.I've not checked Anglesey circuit website to see if they've said anything though.
If you see anything official I'd love to see it that's all.
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