Track car/windscreen MOT question.
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Bit of a strange question this, so bear with me...!
I have an MGF which is quite heavily modified for the track, it's caged and stripped and so on. It's occurred to me recently that I may be able to junk the screen, A posts, wiper mech and all the ancillaries.
So the question is, as it's still road legal at the minute, can I pass an MOT with no windscreen at all? I've pored over the regs and there are a number of checks to be made on the screen, but no clear mention of the requirement for one.
I've had mixed advice on both sides, but I know of no-one who has done this or something like it before. Can anyone help?
I have an MGF which is quite heavily modified for the track, it's caged and stripped and so on. It's occurred to me recently that I may be able to junk the screen, A posts, wiper mech and all the ancillaries.
So the question is, as it's still road legal at the minute, can I pass an MOT with no windscreen at all? I've pored over the regs and there are a number of checks to be made on the screen, but no clear mention of the requirement for one.
I've had mixed advice on both sides, but I know of no-one who has done this or something like it before. Can anyone help?
carlosvalderrama said:
Bit of a strange question this, so bear with me...!
I have an MGF which is quite heavily modified for the track, it's caged and stripped and so on. It's occurred to me recently that I may be able to junk the screen, A posts, wiper mech and all the ancillaries.
So the question is, as it's still road legal at the minute, can I pass an MOT with no windscreen at all? I've pored over the regs and there are a number of checks to be made on the screen, but no clear mention of the requirement for one.
I've had mixed advice on both sides, but I know of no-one who has done this or something like it before. Can anyone help?
I have to ask one question, why would you want to? I have an MGF which is quite heavily modified for the track, it's caged and stripped and so on. It's occurred to me recently that I may be able to junk the screen, A posts, wiper mech and all the ancillaries.
So the question is, as it's still road legal at the minute, can I pass an MOT with no windscreen at all? I've pored over the regs and there are a number of checks to be made on the screen, but no clear mention of the requirement for one.
I've had mixed advice on both sides, but I know of no-one who has done this or something like it before. Can anyone help?
MGRacer said:
carlosvalderrama said:
Bit of a strange question this, so bear with me...!
I have an MGF which is quite heavily modified for the track, it's caged and stripped and so on. It's occurred to me recently that I may be able to junk the screen, A posts, wiper mech and all the ancillaries.
So the question is, as it's still road legal at the minute, can I pass an MOT with no windscreen at all? I've pored over the regs and there are a number of checks to be made on the screen, but no clear mention of the requirement for one.
I've had mixed advice on both sides, but I know of no-one who has done this or something like it before. Can anyone help?
I have to ask one question, why would you want to? I have an MGF which is quite heavily modified for the track, it's caged and stripped and so on. It's occurred to me recently that I may be able to junk the screen, A posts, wiper mech and all the ancillaries.
So the question is, as it's still road legal at the minute, can I pass an MOT with no windscreen at all? I've pored over the regs and there are a number of checks to be made on the screen, but no clear mention of the requirement for one.
I've had mixed advice on both sides, but I know of no-one who has done this or something like it before. Can anyone help?
One thing though, on a 7 it is not part of the structure whereas the MGF on the other hand may benefit from the windscreen adding rigidity/strength. Yor cage will compensate somewhat but you may find issues with flex around the bulkhead.
You're right there, it's going to need some investigation to make sure it's not going to act like there's a hinge in the middle afterwards. The screen itself will provide a significant amount of lateral stiffness to the shell in this area, losing it could make it parralellogram a little. It'll be an opportunity to extend the cage to the front turrets at least, and some cross bracing in this area may help. If I go for it, a couple of perspex uprights will be going on to compensate a little.
As for why, well mass is the main reason, windscreens are very heavy. But I also have a bit of a 'thing' for screenless cars. My dream garage contains an SLR Stirling moss, a euro spec Renault Sport Spyder and one of those concept TT's audi did with a miniscule screen.
Thanks for all the assistance, it'll be a late autumn project as I don't want to ruin the summer by making a mess of it now, so I'll assess the structural impact in the next few months.
As for why, well mass is the main reason, windscreens are very heavy. But I also have a bit of a 'thing' for screenless cars. My dream garage contains an SLR Stirling moss, a euro spec Renault Sport Spyder and one of those concept TT's audi did with a miniscule screen.
Thanks for all the assistance, it'll be a late autumn project as I don't want to ruin the summer by making a mess of it now, so I'll assess the structural impact in the next few months.
Well, I admire someone that is up for a challenge and it certainly could look interesting.
MG Rover have done it before so it may be worth tracking down the cars (in a museum) and see what they did differently: http://www.mgf.ultimatemg.com/group1/MGF_concepts/...
Best of luck.
This is what my race car looked like with no bonnet!! PMSL
MG Rover have done it before so it may be worth tracking down the cars (in a museum) and see what they did differently: http://www.mgf.ultimatemg.com/group1/MGF_concepts/...
Best of luck.
This is what my race car looked like with no bonnet!! PMSL
jagracer said:
Good question, I'd refuse to test it on the grounds it's not safe for me to drive it.
Is this a valid reason for refusal? Why would you need to drive a two wheel drive car? As far as Im aware I dont need a windscreen to pass an MOT (and VOSA have agreed), nor wipers/washers - and this on a closed car.GC8 said:
jagracer said:
Good question, I'd refuse to test it on the grounds it's not safe for me to drive it.
Is this a valid reason for refusal? Why would you need to drive a two wheel drive car? As far as Im aware I dont need a windscreen to pass an MOT (and VOSA have agreed), nor wipers/washers - and this on a closed car.jagracer said:
GC8 said:
jagracer said:
Good question, I'd refuse to test it on the grounds it's not safe for me to drive it.
Is this a valid reason for refusal? Why would you need to drive a two wheel drive car? As far as Im aware I dont need a windscreen to pass an MOT (and VOSA have agreed), nor wipers/washers - and this on a closed car.Gassing Station | Track Days | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff