Maternity/redundancy
Discussion
OP, please realise (even if your wife doesn't) that there are certain occupations which are incompatible with parenthood.
'Sales' being one of them, which is why she's been given the flick. Sensible employer, imho.
Leaving on the dot of 5 because one has a cast-iron excuse to pick a kiddie up from nursery causes massive resentment among colleagues who don't have that luxury, and therefore have to pick up the slack.
Wimmins in the workplace all want the money, without the graft that high-rolling entails. Pregnancy = the ultimate 'get out of jail free' card.
'Sales' being one of them, which is why she's been given the flick. Sensible employer, imho.
Leaving on the dot of 5 because one has a cast-iron excuse to pick a kiddie up from nursery causes massive resentment among colleagues who don't have that luxury, and therefore have to pick up the slack.
Wimmins in the workplace all want the money, without the graft that high-rolling entails. Pregnancy = the ultimate 'get out of jail free' card.
The women in an office I know who plan to make a friend, I mean baby ask HR what Maternity rights they are entitled to beforehand.
Once they are informed they must have been with the company for a year, they go back to their desk to check facebook for 9 months and then go on holiday.
Jokes aside, check employee handbook or failing that use others as examples of how half hours have been accommodated previously. Use this evidence to support your claim.
Once they are informed they must have been with the company for a year, they go back to their desk to check facebook for 9 months and then go on holiday.
Jokes aside, check employee handbook or failing that use others as examples of how half hours have been accommodated previously. Use this evidence to support your claim.
STW2010 said:
singlecoil said:
Typical PH reply, you'll fit right in here- anybody you disagree with is stupid, or even retarded.
Ever think of trying to argue your point without all the ad hominem s
t?
I apologise for the lack of an essay to back up my post. Ever think of trying to argue your point without all the ad hominem s
t?It was unhelpful, that much is obvious. The child is here, and so "I would suggest that you, and your wife, have chosen to have children before you were in a financial position to do so" is not of any use. Therefore stupid etc.
My second point of there being no mention of financial dependency should be quite self-explanatory.
I may find that I disagree with people from time to time but if their point of view is rational and relevant then that is not a problem, and is certainly not stupid or retarded.
STW2010 said:
What a stupid, unhelpful, fking retarded and old fashioned view to have.
In fact, where in the OP is there a mention of the fact that his wife actually needs to work for them to afford to live?
Get off your fking high horse
If you need to apologise it's not for 'failing to write an essay', it's for spouting a load of AH rubbish because you happen to disagree with a perfectly valid point made by another poster. If you disagree with someone it doesn't make them 'stupid' or 'retarded'. Grow up FFS!king retarded and old fashioned view to have. In fact, where in the OP is there a mention of the fact that his wife actually needs to work for them to afford to live?
Get off your f
king high horse
While I agree that sales in general probably wouldn't be suitable but the wife only works on renewal work not new business. She isn't employed as sales staff either and doesn't have to meet the sales teams targets.
All of her can be forward planned so much so that she did 3 months into her maternity leave before she finished.
Anyway I'm sure we could continue this for weeks. The wife has arranged to see an employment solicitor.
All of her can be forward planned so much so that she did 3 months into her maternity leave before she finished.
Anyway I'm sure we could continue this for weeks. The wife has arranged to see an employment solicitor.
projectgt said:
The women in an office I know who plan to make a friend, I mean baby ask HR what Maternity rights they are entitled to beforehand.
Once they are informed they must have been with the company for a year,...
That's not true for Statutory maternity rights - they apply from day 1.Once they are informed they must have been with the company for a year,...
The company can have its own rules for a more enhanced scheme though.
S26VE P said:
so doesnt this apply then?
To qualify for SMP you must have been:
employed by the same employer continuously for at least 26 weeks into the 15th week before the week your baby is due (the qualifying week)
Taken from GOV website.
That's for SMP (pay) - rights to take leave apply straight away.To qualify for SMP you must have been:
employed by the same employer continuously for at least 26 weeks into the 15th week before the week your baby is due (the qualifying week)
Taken from GOV website.
What I was really thinking though was the point was about waiting a year - the poster may be thinking about unfair dismissal rights etc, but they apply from day 1 for pregnancy related dismissal.
S26VE P said:
edc said:
What about the business needs? In a small company it can be very hard to accommodate.
Have you considered that despite your view that such arrangements have happened in the past that they have not been a success and may have been on trial or fixed periods?
The guy has been to south africa 3 times in 4 years for 6 months a time Have you considered that despite your view that such arrangements have happened in the past that they have not been a success and may have been on trial or fixed periods?
They are an IT reseller that 90 % of the work is done by email, the odd phone call and the odd site visit but in truth i think she has had one meeting offsite in 5 years.
Were not in it for the money we just want the correct outcome. Why should one male employee be allowed to work hours away and a female cant do the same for 2 days per week?
very possible, he could have halved my wife's wage easily and let her work part time but refused. lol
Altho i do know that part of the roles wasnt cover by the temp, they are just dealing with admin work where the wife dealt mainly with renewals these were passed to the original sales person to deal with.
They are now trying to get her to sign a compromise agreement which states that she is leaving and waives ALL rights of further action and classing her Holiday pay/commision as compensation.
She has been emailing the solicitors and we will discuss over the weekend and decide where we go from there.
Altho i do know that part of the roles wasnt cover by the temp, they are just dealing with admin work where the wife dealt mainly with renewals these were passed to the original sales person to deal with.
They are now trying to get her to sign a compromise agreement which states that she is leaving and waives ALL rights of further action and classing her Holiday pay/commision as compensation.
She has been emailing the solicitors and we will discuss over the weekend and decide where we go from there.
S26VE P said:
don4l said:
Why is that so funny? Why the "lol"?
Don
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Because i think it is. Don
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one of his main reasons of refusing was the financial burden on the company then in the next breath we have had a serious downturn in business. So in my eyes, if he reduced her hours her wages go down also. Gassing Station | Jobs & Employment Matters | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff