Trainee train drivers wanted...

Trainee train drivers wanted...

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ChocolateFrog

25,552 posts

174 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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I got a tick in the box labelled "is the trainee suitable to continue training"

So that's all good.

Functional Skills is one of the most pointless box ticking exercises I've ever had to do.

ChocolateFrog

25,552 posts

174 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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The Mad Monk said:
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"Description
The RSJT is a new Situational Judgement Test designed specifically for the railways. It is available online now to assess how effectively your candidates will manage working in a safety critical role within a railway environment.

For each scenario the candidate is presented with four options and has to put them in priority order with the best option first, then the next best option and so on. This allows you to objectively assess how your candidates are likely to respond in a given work situation.

Here is an example of the type of scenario you will find in the RSJT:

Example Situation
You are driving as a train driver. You stop at a station and a customer comes running up to your cab and tells you that the back engine of the train is on fire. The engine you have been driving is prone to fires and recently another engine caught fire causing extensive damage to the train and the track with injuries to customers who were travelling on the train. What do you do?

1. Make a PA announcement to the customers telling them to leave the train and station immediately, you then call the emergency services.

2. You call the emergency services and then make a PA announcement telling customers to leave the train and station immediately.

3. You go to the back engine to check out if it is on fire and if it is then you go back to the front cab and you make a PA announcement to customers telling them to leave the train and station immediately.

4. You ask a station assistant on the station to go through the train and evacuate customers from the train and station whilst you call emergency services".

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What is the right answer? My guess is 3.
That's a bit of an odd question.

Based on my few weeks of training laugh I'd do none of those things.

But out of those options I think I'd choose option 3 aswell.

itcaptainslow

3,704 posts

137 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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ChocolateFrog said:
I got a tick in the box labelled "is the trainee suitable to continue training"

So that's all good.

Functional Skills is one of the most pointless box ticking exercises I've ever had to do.
Functional skills?

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39,994 posts

197 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Rick101 said:
4 2 1 3

The information suggests the risk of fire is a likely possibility
Use the trained staff available to you. Frees you up to make the emergency call asap
It does not say the type of train barring being passenger stock and suggesting loco hauled.
It could be a fair old walk to the rear engine and may not be sighted if on a curve.


That's what I would go with. Probably wrong. These tests sometimes have some bizzare logic.
They sometimes aren't so much about the right and wrong, but also about how you would approach a situation.

Edited by Rick101 on Thursday 25th February 08:14
4-1-2-3 is my guess

Getting people out is more important than calling Emergency services. If you were in an office ringing the fire alarm would take precedence

CharlieH89

9,080 posts

166 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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itcaptainslow said:
ChocolateFrog said:
I got a tick in the box labelled "is the trainee suitable to continue training"

So that's all good.

Functional Skills is one of the most pointless box ticking exercises I've ever had to do.
Functional skills?
I believe mainline drivers have to have a certain level in is it Maths and English? If you don’t have a certificate to prove it then you have to do the tests as part of the driver program.
I’m just a maintenance depot driver so didn’t have to bother with the above but I know the mainline drivers who were in the academy at the same time I was had to do it.

ChocolateFrog

25,552 posts

174 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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itcaptainslow said:
ChocolateFrog said:
I got a tick in the box labelled "is the trainee suitable to continue training"

So that's all good.

Functional Skills is one of the most pointless box ticking exercises I've ever had to do.
Functional skills?
English, Maths and ICT Level 2 (equivalent to a C at GCSE)

Required in order for the TOC to claim money back from the Apprenticeship Levy. Adds nothing to being a train driver.

Doesn't take into account A levels, Degrees or Post Grad qualifications, if you don't have a GCSE cert you have to do it.

We spent a day learning a few functions of Microsoft Access in order to pass the test, it was utterly pointless.

ChocolateFrog

25,552 posts

174 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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Actually get to drive a train this week.

At 5mph biggrin

Stedman

7,228 posts

193 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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thumbup

When do you get your first drive on the mainline?

wobman

Original Poster:

89 posts

187 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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How many newbies on the railway have had their training delayed by Covid issues ???

I know the majority are well behind in getting trainee drivers out with instructors, TFW have been hit hard with covid delays unfortunately.

What TOCs / depots are you & how much have you been delayed ???

Good to see so many positive stories on here about new staff joing the driving grade 👍

ChocolateFrog

25,552 posts

174 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Stedman said:
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When do you get your first drive on the mainline?
Not exactly sure.

We've got a couple of weeks messing about on depot, a week at our home depots, a couple of weeks doing 195/331 conversion and some leave to fit in.

May sometime, hopefully, in passenger service too, which sounds daunting at this point.

ChocolateFrog

25,552 posts

174 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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wobman said:
How many newbies on the railway have had their training delayed by Covid issues ???

I know the majority are well behind in getting trainee drivers out with instructors, TFW have been hit hard with covid delays unfortunately.

What TOCs / depots are you & how much have you been delayed ???

Good to see so many positive stories on here about new staff joing the driving grade ??
It seems the largest delay now is the availability of minders. Previously it was the classroom teaching but that's all now "Covid Secure" and we're testing weekly, bubbling up and all those other rather spurious measures that mean that part of training is running relatively normally now.

ChocolateFrog

25,552 posts

174 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Apparently there's some guys on full pay who still haven't been signed off. They started in early 2019.

For us some depots are a lot further behind than others.

Stedman

7,228 posts

193 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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wobman said:
How many newbies on the railway have had their training delayed by Covid issues ???

I know the majority are well behind in getting trainee drivers out with instructors, TFW have been hit hard with covid delays unfortunately.

What TOCs / depots are you & how much have you been delayed ???

Good to see so many positive stories on here about new staff joing the driving grade ??
My first Trainee is currently doing his final assessment.....a year late eek

My next trainee should have started driving with a Driver Instructor around June but wont be starting until at least May (I think it could be late June into July tbh).

Stedman

7,228 posts

193 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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ChocolateFrog said:
May sometime, hopefully, in passenger service too, which sounds daunting at this point.
Don't worry man cool

ChocolateFrog

25,552 posts

174 months

Sunday 21st March 2021
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Actually, actually get to drive trains this coming week biggrin

I already bored of turning them on and off without actually going anywhere.

ChocolateFrog

25,552 posts

174 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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75mph today for the first time.

I'm knackered now, must have been concentrating pretty hard.

Stedman

7,228 posts

193 months

Friday 9th April 2021
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Yep, that'll do it. Glad you managed to get out there.

demic

378 posts

162 months

Sunday 11th April 2021
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ChocolateFrog said:
75mph today for the first time.

I'm knackered now, must have been concentrating pretty hard.
Well done, don’t worry you’ll soon learn how to manage your attention levels

ChocolateFrog

25,552 posts

174 months

Friday 30th April 2021
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195 Course completed, although the first time I'll take one over 5mph it will have passengers on, doesn't make sense to me but it is what it is.

Now stood down awaiting Mod 5.


Stedman

7,228 posts

193 months

Friday 30th April 2021
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Which depot will you be based at? Feel free to PM if you'd rather not share here.