Uncovered Tattoos and work.
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xjay1337 said:
Zoon said:
Not really, if people think tattoos make someone look less trustworthy etc. then it's up to them.
Similarly if a vicar turned up with a nose ring and full mohawk sprayed purple the congregation may well be wary.
It's how the world works, not exclusively with tattoos.
there was a series of pictures online where it showed doctors and nurses who were covered head to toe in tattoos (except their face) saying don't judge my tattoos.Similarly if a vicar turned up with a nose ring and full mohawk sprayed purple the congregation may well be wary.
It's how the world works, not exclusively with tattoos.
don't judge.
just because the world judges doesn't make it right.
less than 100 years ago the world thought black people and jews were lesser than white people from germany.
let's not let bigotry lead our hearts into a dark place over anything else eh
You will never get rid of closet judges, that's the problem.
Robertj21a said:
but it's their bodies to ruin and they seem to fail to realise that it'll only be a fad for a few years.
Sorry to disappoint, but the skills, digital technology of tattooing is only going to increase and be more popular..I always thought they were done freehand, but mine was emailed, digitised onto a specific printer, applied to my arm and then the work began for 2.5 hours. It does actually look 3D, and like chrome, and that's where the skill is.
steveL98 said:
Robertj21a said:
but it's their bodies to ruin and they seem to fail to realise that it'll only be a fad for a few years.
Sorry to disappoint, but the skills, digital technology of tattooing is only going to increase and be more popular..I always thought they were done freehand, but mine was emailed, digitised onto a specific printer, applied to my arm and then the work began for 2.5 hours. It does actually look 3D, and like chrome, and that's where the skill is.
I work for a big Pharma company and as you can imagine it's pretty corporate, visible tattoos would be frowned upon and I can't imagine you would be offered a position (certainly in any of the corporate functions) if you turned up to interview with visible tattoos. The requirement is for a smart professional appearance and having hand or neck tattoos wouldn't fit into that requirement.
It got me thinking about other less lifestyle driven appearances. There's a guy at my gym who doesn't have any visible tattoos but he does look rather intimidating, in the sense that he's got a heavily broken'/poorly reset nose, classic rugby player ears and a hefty scar across his jaw line. He looks like a rough lad.
It got me thinking whether he would struggle to secure a professional role given that he looks like someone you would see stood behind a Russian mafia boss?
It got me thinking about other less lifestyle driven appearances. There's a guy at my gym who doesn't have any visible tattoos but he does look rather intimidating, in the sense that he's got a heavily broken'/poorly reset nose, classic rugby player ears and a hefty scar across his jaw line. He looks like a rough lad.
It got me thinking whether he would struggle to secure a professional role given that he looks like someone you would see stood behind a Russian mafia boss?
steveL98 said:
Robertj21a said:
but it's their bodies to ruin and they seem to fail to realise that it'll only be a fad for a few years.
Sorry to disappoint, but the skills, digital technology of tattooing is only going to increase and be more popular..I always thought they were done freehand, but mine was emailed, digitised onto a specific printer, applied to my arm and then the work began for 2.5 hours. It does actually look 3D, and like chrome, and that's where the skill is.
[/quoteWhen in the navy, most of my shipmates bitterly regretted having a tattoo. Great at the time, but fast forward twenty years....' poor life choice' I recall one saying.
If your tattoo is covered up then why even mention it to an employer?
I work in a main dealer. Our front facing staff in all departments have tattoos on display as our uniform consists of short sleeved shirts. We also don't have to wear ties. We are busier than ever, no one cares about the ink on our arms.
I work in a main dealer. Our front facing staff in all departments have tattoos on display as our uniform consists of short sleeved shirts. We also don't have to wear ties. We are busier than ever, no one cares about the ink on our arms.
sparks_E39 said:
If your tattoo is covered up then why even mention it to an employer?
I work in a main dealer. Our front facing staff in all departments have tattoos on display as our uniform consists of short sleeved shirts. We also don't have to wear ties. We are busier than ever, no one cares about the ink on our arms.
How do you know ?I work in a main dealer. Our front facing staff in all departments have tattoos on display as our uniform consists of short sleeved shirts. We also don't have to wear ties. We are busier than ever, no one cares about the ink on our arms.
sparks_E39 said:
If your tattoo is covered up then why even mention it to an employer?
I work in a main dealer. Our front facing staff in all departments have tattoos on display as our uniform consists of short sleeved shirts. We also don't have to wear ties. We are busier than ever, no one cares about the ink on our arms.
IMI it's very much an age / culture / industry thing. They are very rare in professional firms (visible ones at least). That might change over the next 20/30 years, there are quite a few junior staff in my team who have hidden tattoos and arguably once they get into management roles they'll change the rules but, at the moment and especially in client-facing roles, we do not allow people to have visible tattoos.I work in a main dealer. Our front facing staff in all departments have tattoos on display as our uniform consists of short sleeved shirts. We also don't have to wear ties. We are busier than ever, no one cares about the ink on our arms.
Why not?
I work in a hospital and a lot of the staff from the surgeons, consultants, senior admin, nursing at the top all the way down the chain have visible tattoos, piercing, shaved haircuits etc.. We even have consultant staff who are amateur body builders and wrestlers and well visible to the public.
This reminds me of the 1960's where guys with hair over their collar were regarded as sub human as far as employers go and subject to draconian employment rules.
Its the same nowadays with tattooed people being subject to unjustified conservative views and prejudices.
I work in a hospital and a lot of the staff from the surgeons, consultants, senior admin, nursing at the top all the way down the chain have visible tattoos, piercing, shaved haircuits etc.. We even have consultant staff who are amateur body builders and wrestlers and well visible to the public.
This reminds me of the 1960's where guys with hair over their collar were regarded as sub human as far as employers go and subject to draconian employment rules.
Its the same nowadays with tattooed people being subject to unjustified conservative views and prejudices.
steveL98 said:
Why not?
I work in a hospital and a lot of the staff from the surgeons, consultants, senior admin, nursing at the top all the way down the chain have visible tattoos, piercing, shaved haircuits etc.. We even have consultant staff who are amateur body builders and wrestlers and well visible to the public.
This reminds me of the 1960's where guys with hair over their collar were regarded as sub human as far as employers go and subject to draconian employment rules.
Its the same nowadays with tattooed people being subject to unjustified conservative views and prejudices.
There isn't much alternative to the NHS if you don't have private healthcare. The reason many firms don't like to portray anything other than a professional appearance (that's no slight on the actual professionalism of NHS staff btw) is because there are a dozen other companies that are competing for the same clients. I work in a hospital and a lot of the staff from the surgeons, consultants, senior admin, nursing at the top all the way down the chain have visible tattoos, piercing, shaved haircuits etc.. We even have consultant staff who are amateur body builders and wrestlers and well visible to the public.
This reminds me of the 1960's where guys with hair over their collar were regarded as sub human as far as employers go and subject to draconian employment rules.
Its the same nowadays with tattooed people being subject to unjustified conservative views and prejudices.
steveL98 said:
Why not?
I work in a hospital and a lot of the staff from the surgeons, consultants, senior admin, nursing at the top all the way down the chain have visible tattoos, piercing, shaved haircuits etc.. We even have consultant staff who are amateur body builders and wrestlers and well visible to the public.
This reminds me of the 1960's where guys with hair over their collar were regarded as sub human as far as employers go and subject to draconian employment rules.
Its the same nowadays with tattooed people being subject to unjustified conservative views and prejudices.
That's strange. As far as I'm aware piercings were a definite no-no especially in clinical areas due to hygiene risks and have to be removed when on duty. (In fact AIUI even Dinner Ladies have to have piercings covered when at work!). Tattoos HAVE to be covered except where the "bare below the elbow" rules apply and there are even restrictions on wristwatches due to infection control.I work in a hospital and a lot of the staff from the surgeons, consultants, senior admin, nursing at the top all the way down the chain have visible tattoos, piercing, shaved haircuits etc.. We even have consultant staff who are amateur body builders and wrestlers and well visible to the public.
This reminds me of the 1960's where guys with hair over their collar were regarded as sub human as far as employers go and subject to draconian employment rules.
Its the same nowadays with tattooed people being subject to unjustified conservative views and prejudices.
Shaved haircuts haven't really ever been an issue as far as I'm aware. It's not a choice for some guys
steveL98 said:
Why not?
I work in a hospital and a lot of the staff from the surgeons, consultants, senior admin, nursing at the top all the way down the chain have visible tattoos, piercing, shaved haircuits etc.. We even have consultant staff who are amateur body builders and wrestlers and well visible to the public.
This reminds me of the 1960's where guys with hair over their collar were regarded as sub human as far as employers go and subject to draconian employment rules.
Its the same nowadays with tattooed people being subject to unjustified conservative views and prejudices.
The ‘Why not’ was because I was working in a very conservative profession. I even had a grumble from a client when I sent a candidate for interview wearing a thumb ring. I work in a hospital and a lot of the staff from the surgeons, consultants, senior admin, nursing at the top all the way down the chain have visible tattoos, piercing, shaved haircuits etc.. We even have consultant staff who are amateur body builders and wrestlers and well visible to the public.
This reminds me of the 1960's where guys with hair over their collar were regarded as sub human as far as employers go and subject to draconian employment rules.
Its the same nowadays with tattooed people being subject to unjustified conservative views and prejudices.
I didn’t and still don’t care about the rights or wrongs of the situation but I was running a business and needed to provide what my clients wanted.
That's understandable and your right to do that when your chasing the £..
I'm 64, a child of the '60's. a bio-engineering manager by profession for the NHS and a person's appearance means nothing to me or others around me as it defines who you are, ..and if that is via tattoos, piercings, haircuts and clothing as long as it's not rude, or in some other way profane or provocative, there's no issue with that, as its no one else's business. Its your abilities and character that count here.
I'm 64, a child of the '60's. a bio-engineering manager by profession for the NHS and a person's appearance means nothing to me or others around me as it defines who you are, ..and if that is via tattoos, piercings, haircuts and clothing as long as it's not rude, or in some other way profane or provocative, there's no issue with that, as its no one else's business. Its your abilities and character that count here.
steveL98 said:
That's understandable and your right to do that when your chasing the £..
I'm 64, a child of the '60's. a bio-engineering manager by profession for the NHS and a person's appearance means nothing to me or others around me as it defines who you are, ..and if that is via tattoos, piercings, haircuts and clothing as long as it's not rude, or in some other way profane or provocative, there's no issue with that, as its no one else's business. Its your abilities and character that count here.
Of course it is other peoples business. Some employers do not tolerate any tattoos, that is their business. Others dislike the other things on your list, that is their business. Tattoo removal etc has become a growth industry BECAUSE of other peoples business.I'm 64, a child of the '60's. a bio-engineering manager by profession for the NHS and a person's appearance means nothing to me or others around me as it defines who you are, ..and if that is via tattoos, piercings, haircuts and clothing as long as it's not rude, or in some other way profane or provocative, there's no issue with that, as its no one else's business. Its your abilities and character that count here.
steveL98 said:
That's understandable and your right to do that when your chasing the £..
I'm 64, a child of the '60's. a bio-engineering manager by profession for the NHS and a person's appearance means nothing to me or others around me as it defines who you are, ..and if that is via tattoos, piercings, haircuts and clothing as long as it's not rude, or in some other way profane or provocative, there's no issue with that, as its no one else's business. Its your abilities and character that count here.
Out of interest, who determines whether something is rude, profane or provocative?I'm 64, a child of the '60's. a bio-engineering manager by profession for the NHS and a person's appearance means nothing to me or others around me as it defines who you are, ..and if that is via tattoos, piercings, haircuts and clothing as long as it's not rude, or in some other way profane or provocative, there's no issue with that, as its no one else's business. Its your abilities and character that count here.
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