Difficulty recruiting, suggestions?
Discussion
21TonyK said:
Completely understand what you mean, I guess its that historically the role has been flexible between 9 and 2 and that's what I have in my head when I think about it.
However. This is not the same role, if is an "upgraded" role and the responsibilities require that the person is there from 9 until at least 1:30 if not 2 every day. So it is at least 22.5 hours.
Not a lot but maybe slightly more of a draw and an extra £1.5K pa.
This is not how HR will see it though so I think I might be in for a bit of a battle.
Problem is that what happens at one site is mirrored at others so it means other people getting a pay rise as well.
If it's a different Job Description it "shouldn't " mean pay rises for the others (in theory, but the Unions will argue differently and the LA HR Dept will bend over backwards to avoid any conflict).However. This is not the same role, if is an "upgraded" role and the responsibilities require that the person is there from 9 until at least 1:30 if not 2 every day. So it is at least 22.5 hours.
Not a lot but maybe slightly more of a draw and an extra £1.5K pa.
This is not how HR will see it though so I think I might be in for a bit of a battle.
Problem is that what happens at one site is mirrored at others so it means other people getting a pay rise as well.
However, going back to the matter in hand, £1.5k before tax/NI isn't sufficient for the extra responsibility (and the stress that comes with it). You either need to pay more or expect less.
A month in caterer is about £160. The more I think the role through the more I think its not going to work anyway. Or at least not achieve what is needed. Forgetting the hourly rate the role needs more hours if it is to be a five day job. On 20 hours you could just about manage to do 4 days It's a 25 hour role to actually do the job and that's with a more experienced person supporting.
croyde said:
As others have said, it will work for someone who needs pocket money.
What is shocking is the chap who said that his lorry drivers are on 11 quid an hour. I looked into retraining as an HGV driver. Would of cost me about £3k but then a whole world would open up to me starting at £8 an hour.
Plus the fact that you would be restricted to a max amount of hours a week would mean an unliveable wage.
I'm 55. Pay 500 a month in child maintenance then need £16k a year just to pay my rent. Nothing special, just a small 2 bedroom cottage in Surrey, a bit too far from my work.
Do the maths. I need well above average pay just to cover my basics.
A mate was a lorry driver but gave it up. Foreign drivers will work for less so pay has dropped a lot.What is shocking is the chap who said that his lorry drivers are on 11 quid an hour. I looked into retraining as an HGV driver. Would of cost me about £3k but then a whole world would open up to me starting at £8 an hour.
Plus the fact that you would be restricted to a max amount of hours a week would mean an unliveable wage.
I'm 55. Pay 500 a month in child maintenance then need £16k a year just to pay my rent. Nothing special, just a small 2 bedroom cottage in Surrey, a bit too far from my work.
Do the maths. I need well above average pay just to cover my basics.
21TonyK said:
A month in caterer is about £160. The more I think the role through the more I think its not going to work anyway. Or at least not achieve what is needed. Forgetting the hourly rate the role needs more hours if it is to be a five day job. On 20 hours you could just about manage to do 4 days It's a 25 hour role to actually do the job and that's with a more experienced person supporting.
Question for you, what do you pay the full timers on the team?Foliage said:
just get a local caterer to do it, get rid of your current team. 'farm it out'
that is a good idea actually, but I assume it would be very complicated.I used to work for a catering company and they had lots of evening work (including catering for the local masonic lodge!), but had limited work in the daytime, so it would be perfect- perhaps you could do a deal so a caterer could use your kitchens after the school food was served.
98elise said:
croyde said:
As others have said, it will work for someone who needs pocket money.
What is shocking is the chap who said that his lorry drivers are on 11 quid an hour. I looked into retraining as an HGV driver. Would of cost me about £3k but then a whole world would open up to me starting at £8 an hour.
Plus the fact that you would be restricted to a max amount of hours a week would mean an unliveable wage.
I'm 55. Pay 500 a month in child maintenance then need £16k a year just to pay my rent. Nothing special, just a small 2 bedroom cottage in Surrey, a bit too far from my work.
Do the maths. I need well above average pay just to cover my basics.
A mate was a lorry driver but gave it up. Foreign drivers will work for less so pay has dropped a lot.What is shocking is the chap who said that his lorry drivers are on 11 quid an hour. I looked into retraining as an HGV driver. Would of cost me about £3k but then a whole world would open up to me starting at £8 an hour.
Plus the fact that you would be restricted to a max amount of hours a week would mean an unliveable wage.
I'm 55. Pay 500 a month in child maintenance then need £16k a year just to pay my rent. Nothing special, just a small 2 bedroom cottage in Surrey, a bit too far from my work.
Do the maths. I need well above average pay just to cover my basics.
I was a lorry driver and give it up both for the falling wages and the CPC .
I didnt see why I should be forced to pay for classroom training just to do the job I had done for years.
In nov last year I relented and paid over £300 to do the cpc and started looking a driving job again.
It turns out the wages are still as low and I was right to get away from driving the first time.
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