Quitting on the spot
Discussion
Anyone here done this ??
Ive had my site manager (caretaker) job for approx 3 months and have just been given my contract which seems to differ quite a lot from the info i was given at interview time so i plan to go in tomorrow and tell them to amend the contract or i am off.
I still have my self employed business (plantroom/ac/boiler house design) which i do from home now and then and i do want to cut my hours down to maybe 20hrs a week so this is the time for me to say stuff it.
I have approx 7 days holiday owing but i am more than happy to walk with no pay but no notice either even though my contract says i must give them 1 months notice once i have signed the contract.
Gov.uk website states i must give a weeks notice if i have been employed for a month or more again once the contract has been signed.
thanks
Ive had my site manager (caretaker) job for approx 3 months and have just been given my contract which seems to differ quite a lot from the info i was given at interview time so i plan to go in tomorrow and tell them to amend the contract or i am off.
I still have my self employed business (plantroom/ac/boiler house design) which i do from home now and then and i do want to cut my hours down to maybe 20hrs a week so this is the time for me to say stuff it.
I have approx 7 days holiday owing but i am more than happy to walk with no pay but no notice either even though my contract says i must give them 1 months notice once i have signed the contract.
Gov.uk website states i must give a weeks notice if i have been employed for a month or more again once the contract has been signed.
thanks
TVR Moneypit said:
If it were me, I'd work, or at least continue to turn up for work for my notice period. What's a week?
I hope you make the right decision and I wish you good luck. I quit on the spot before, and it's a liberating experience.
Thanks,I hope you make the right decision and I wish you good luck. I quit on the spot before, and it's a liberating experience.
Yes i think this is what i will do,they have cover from other schools for when i leave and this is part of the problem as they expect me to go to another school if/when needed to help with lock up until 10pm even though my start time would of been 6am that morning and the next morning too all without extra pay and this has already happened to another caretaker...A academy has taken over and they want far more than the old council contract did.
I took the job as a favour while they looked for a permanent caretaker but they have dragged their heels finding a replacement for the previous guy and now the new contract stiffs us all...
OP, I'm sure you are aware that within schools, even LA and academies, SLT all talk and know each other so if you p
s off your current employer there's little chance of something similar within LA.
If that's not an issue then up to you I guess but I would probably do a week. Late finish and early start is in breach of the WTD so tell them to shove that.
s off your current employer there's little chance of something similar within LA.If that's not an issue then up to you I guess but I would probably do a week. Late finish and early start is in breach of the WTD so tell them to shove that.
55palfers said:
If an Academy has now taken over and the are unilaterally trying to amend your existing T&C, surely TUPE must apply somewhere along the line?
The academy took over before i started but i only got my contract last week approx 3 months into the job,at the time of the interview none of this was told to me..21TonyK I have no plans to return to this and wish to semi-retire working in my preferred field as boiler house/plantroom design,id possibly do some plumbing again as it has been my trade for over 30 yrs...but picking and choosing where and when.
I’m assuming that your line manager has discussed this with you and is aware of your concerns?
If so, then by presenting this contract, he/she is aware you’re likely to leave; this may be the outcome they desire.
If so, and if you’re 100% sure you want to leave, then I would politely negotiate my terms of leaving rather than just walk out as that’s the more professional thing to do and demonstrates that you’re not going to lower your standards to theirs.
If so, then by presenting this contract, he/she is aware you’re likely to leave; this may be the outcome they desire.
If so, and if you’re 100% sure you want to leave, then I would politely negotiate my terms of leaving rather than just walk out as that’s the more professional thing to do and demonstrates that you’re not going to lower your standards to theirs.
blueveloce said:
55palfers said:
If an Academy has now taken over and the are unilaterally trying to amend your existing T&C, surely TUPE must apply somewhere along the line?
The academy took over before i started but i only got my contract last week approx 3 months into the job,at the time of the interview none of this was told to me..21TonyK I have no plans to return to this and wish to semi-retire working in my preferred field as boiler house/plantroom design,id possibly do some plumbing again as it has been my trade for over 30 yrs...but picking and choosing where and when.
Significant pay rises for the HTs / Leadership teams in order to attract staff who will (hopefully) have a quick impact on student attainment means that there is less money to pay for other staff.
My Mrs recently started as head at a recent academised secondary that was in special measures and failing under any metric you cared to use.
A big part was the staff working under a just do enough to get by culture, ie slacking and lacking in a lot of departments. The caretaker was especially helpful in his work to rule attitude and would leave jobs unfinished which would then impact the kids the net day. Rather than a bit of give and take.
Anyway. Just for some balance.
OP you are over thinking this. If you want to wind down anyway and aren't that fussed then what's the problem. Just chat to the head and explain the situation, depending on how that goes then work your notice and go on your merry way. Or just walk out.
Remember that you downing tools and walking off could impact 1000+ kids who have nothing to do with your working t&C's though. Think of the children!
A big part was the staff working under a just do enough to get by culture, ie slacking and lacking in a lot of departments. The caretaker was especially helpful in his work to rule attitude and would leave jobs unfinished which would then impact the kids the net day. Rather than a bit of give and take.
Anyway. Just for some balance.
OP you are over thinking this. If you want to wind down anyway and aren't that fussed then what's the problem. Just chat to the head and explain the situation, depending on how that goes then work your notice and go on your merry way. Or just walk out.
Remember that you downing tools and walking off could impact 1000+ kids who have nothing to do with your working t&C's though. Think of the children!
Breadvan72 said:
Mr E said:
Do you currently have a contract that has been signed? What does it say?
Top tip: read the opening post. HTH.He then later states that he must give a months notice - if there’s no contract then why?
I have pretty much zero knowledge of employment law (probably doesn’t need stating).
Mr E said:
Breadvan72 said:
Mr E said:
Do you currently have a contract that has been signed? What does it say?
Top tip: read the opening post. HTH.He then later states that he must give a months notice - if there’s no contract then why?
I have pretty much zero knowledge of employment law (probably doesn’t need stating).
This is why I’m not a lawyer. Disturbingly I do something else that requires attention to detail...
So, there’s no signed contract but he’s been working for 3 months. Does that imply some acceptance of terms or can the OP just walk as there’s nothing in place to prevent that?
Well i handed in my notice this morning and leave this friday afternoon (shift ends at 2pm) and explained in my letter that i didnt want to sign the contract given to me just a few days ago due to differences to the job i interviewed for...
I am due holiday which i have been told i will be paid and there seems to be no hard feelings,so roll on friday...
thanks for your input gents..
I am due holiday which i have been told i will be paid and there seems to be no hard feelings,so roll on friday...
thanks for your input gents..
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I was once told at the end of an interview "we'll let you know" to which I replied, "don't bother, I don't want the job."
The bloke seemed quite narked so I explained that an interview was a two way process and unfortunately they hadn't been successful. He was even more narked then!!
That would of caused upset. Did you offer to sleep with his wife ?The bloke seemed quite narked so I explained that an interview was a two way process and unfortunately they hadn't been successful. He was even more narked then!!
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I was once told at the end of an interview "we'll let you know" to which I replied, "don't bother, I don't want the job."
The bloke seemed quite narked so I explained that an interview was a two way process and unfortunately they hadn't been successful. He was even more narked then!!
^^^ The bloke seemed quite narked so I explained that an interview was a two way process and unfortunately they hadn't been successful. He was even more narked then!!
Wish I'd had the guts to do this. Many years ago I applied for a job, and to be fair I was chancing my luck as I was still young and relatively inexperienced for the role I was going for. However, they gave me a chance at an interview, but the 2 guys interviewing me were crap interviewers, and did their best to belittle me throughout. At the end of the interview they said "we'll let you know", but I knew I wouldn't be offered the job, and knew I didn't want to work there anyway.
I guess it's something which comes with age and a bit of experience, but if I was in that position again I'd happily be upfront and tell them I didn't want the job. And maybe even leave before the interview finished.
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