Christmas Bonus

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berlintaxi

8,535 posts

174 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Antony Moxey said:
warnerj said:
Ultimately its changed peoples mindsets, once I was careful with my expenses. Now they are going through the roof and they wonder why!
Your company is lucky to have such a conscientious employee.
Indeed, contender for dick of the year post.

Carrot

7,294 posts

203 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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I'm in the "think yourself lucky" camp.

All my working life I never had an employer that paid bonuses at Christmas, until now where my current employer does who I have been with for 6 years.

Should they not give one at some point, I will be grateful for the previous ones and carry on regardless.

It is a bonus. Nice to have but not contractual.


schmunk

4,399 posts

126 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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The 1% employer contribution will be going up to 2% in April 2018, and 3% in April 2019. They'll be wanting you to work weekends to pay for it...

https://www.gov.uk/workplace-pensions/what-you-you...

You are allowed to opt out of a workplace pension (but why would you, if there's no alternative payment?)

https://www.gov.uk/workplace-pensions/if-you-want-...

CooperS

4,506 posts

220 months

Thursday 30th November 2017
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berlintaxi said:
Antony Moxey said:
warnerj said:
Ultimately its changed peoples mindsets, once I was careful with my expenses. Now they are going through the roof and they wonder why!
Your company is lucky to have such a conscientious employee.
Indeed, contender for dick of the year post.
Haha I'm pleased I work for a large company where this sort of stuff doesn't happen. However It's a bit like overtime where I am for the professional grades. I've been in offices where everyone did the maximum overtime (without being pinged) but when the new finance director came in and put a stop to it everyone was up in arms...

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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OP, is there a bonus clause in your employment terms? A bonus is often expressed to be discretionary. The discretion must not be exercised irrationally.

warnerj

Original Poster:

81 posts

167 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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A lot of hate on my comment that my expenses have gone up. Some people even stating that I'm stealing from the company! I'm now just claiming what I am entitled to such as travel which I wouldn't claim before and using the budget agreed at the start of the year.

It's good to see different perspectives especially the input from business owners and their take on it.

ozzuk

1,183 posts

128 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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warnerj said:
A lot of hate on my comment that my expenses have gone up. Some people even stating that I'm stealing from the company! I'm now just claiming what I am entitled to such as travel which I wouldn't claim before and using the budget agreed at the start of the year.

It's good to see different perspectives especially the input from business owners and their take on it.
Seemed pretty clear, I work in London every month or so for past 10 years, rarely charge meals back, only hotel/train. 3 years with no payrise is making me think I should be claiming all I should.

mandos_01

632 posts

102 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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I think employees should claim back all they are entitled to on expenses - entitled being the main word

Don't agree at all with expenses being hiked up in lieu of a Xmas bonus, but I claim every meal and all travel I'm incurring costs for due to my job

James_B

12,642 posts

258 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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mandos_01 said:
I think employees should claim back all they are entitled to on expenses - entitled being the main word

Don't agree at all with expenses being hiked up in lieu of a Xmas bonus, but I claim every meal and all travel I'm incurring costs for due to my job
It’s frowned on at my place if some staff claim expenses.

We’ve a firm-wide policy that allows, for example a taxi home and / or your evening meal paid for it you work past 10pm, and the policy doesn’t differentiate on grade in the company.

If a person in a support role had to work late, it’d be fine, but if a member of trading staff did, it’d not go down well at all. The view is that they are paid enough to be able to fork out for their own pizza and taxi.

Geffg

1,134 posts

106 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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As been said previously by others, same here I don’t get anything at all. Don’t get a card or even a happy Christmas, just an email with my jobs for the next working day we’re in!

HTP99

22,581 posts

141 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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Geffg said:
As been said previously by others, same here I don’t get anything at all. Don’t get a card or even a happy Christmas, just an email with my jobs for the next working day we’re in!
Same here, however when the company was just 1 branch as opposed to 3 now, we were asked our favourite tipple and come Christmas we would be bought it, we are lucky now if we get a tub of Heroes for the branch.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

172 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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James_B said:
It’s frowned on at my place if some staff claim expenses.

We’ve a firm-wide policy that allows, for example a taxi home and / or your evening meal paid for it you work past 10pm, and the policy doesn’t differentiate on grade in the company.

If a person in a support role had to work late, it’d be fine, but if a member of trading staff did, it’d not go down well at all. The view is that they are paid enough to be able to fork out for their own pizza and taxi.
This sort of thing pisses me right off. If there is a policy in place then that's that. If they only want support staff to be able to claim for something, change the policy.

Drumroll

3,769 posts

121 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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to me a bonus is just that. It is something you may or may not get. Never included a bonus in any budget calculations. Never had a problem if I haven't got one.

djc206

12,360 posts

126 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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Geffg said:
As been said previously by others, same here I don’t get anything at all. Don’t get a card or even a happy Christmas, just an email with my jobs for the next working day we’re in!
I will be working Xmas day. Usually the CEO pops in at some point to say hello and wish us a merry Xmas as he lives locally. It’s a nice touch but I’d prefer he stay at home and just give us back our £20 Xmas party allowance that was taken away a few years back. It cost the company less than £100k which is mere change for a company with a turnover of around £1bn.

James_B

12,642 posts

258 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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jakesmith said:
This sort of thing pisses me right off. If there is a policy in place then that's that. If they only want support staff to be able to claim for something, change the policy.
There are some things that common sense works far better for than trying to draft a policy that covers every occasion.

We don’t have policies on how long you should spend in the toilet, what you should wear, or how much swearing is acceptable when, but there are ways of doing the wrong thing there, too.

The line is probably between people who get a discretionary bonus and those who don’t. If someone’s getting a significant amount at year-end on top of good basic pay then I don’t expect to see a £50taxi receipt when they stayed at work no later than they normally stay for after work events.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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djc206 said:
I will be working Xmas day. Usually the CEO pops in at some point to say hello and wish us a merry Xmas as he lives locally. It’s a nice touch but I’d prefer he stay at home and just give us back our £20 Xmas party allowance that was taken away a few years back. It cost the company less than £100k which is mere change for a company with a turnover of around £1bn.
Just for down to earth sensibleness, P&H went into administration recently, with a multi £bn t/o and £600k of margin. High figures at one end don't always mean the same in the profit column, which is the one that counts.

djc206

12,360 posts

126 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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janesmith1950 said:
djc206 said:
I will be working Xmas day. Usually the CEO pops in at some point to say hello and wish us a merry Xmas as he lives locally. It’s a nice touch but I’d prefer he stay at home and just give us back our £20 Xmas party allowance that was taken away a few years back. It cost the company less than £100k which is mere change for a company with a turnover of around £1bn.
Just for down to earth sensibleness, P&H went into administration recently, with a multi £bn t/o and £600k of margin. High figures at one end don't always mean the same in the profit column, which is the one that counts.
Our pretax profit was £125.5m

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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Point still stands; small % changes in large-scale organisations can dramatically affect the bottom line.

Ultimately, you are paid to do your job. You do it, you get paid. Perks and bonuses are nice (I enjoy rewarding my staff), however they oughtn't be relied upon.


NorthernSky

985 posts

118 months

Wednesday 6th December 2017
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thebraketester said:
Down tools
And leave site for an extended lunch break.

Google [bot]

6,682 posts

182 months

Wednesday 6th December 2017
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