Got a job offer but it's self employed and need help

Got a job offer but it's self employed and need help

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Packrats

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450 posts

118 months

Wednesday 6th December 2017
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I recently lost my lost job due to circumstances beyond my control.today I had a interview which went well but the job offered requires me to be self employed..so how does this work.I'll be working in a main Honda dealers valeting and delivering cars. So does this mean I'm contracting to them..I've never been self employed before and .gov is confusing me..

Eric Mc

122,031 posts

265 months

Wednesday 6th December 2017
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The fact that they are telling you that the position is "self employed" indicates to me that it's not really a self employed position at all.

YHM

Packrats

Original Poster:

450 posts

118 months

Wednesday 6th December 2017
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Im more confused now confused

Bluesgirl

769 posts

91 months

Wednesday 6th December 2017
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Being self-employed effectively means that you are setting yourself up in business, offering goods or services to other businesses or individuals. You'll need to register as self-employed with HMRC and you'll file your own tax returns. You'll invoice the company for the hours you work and expenses and they'll pay you with no deductions for tax or NI.

Most importantly, you'll have no job security, holiday or sick pay or notice period.

Eric Mc

122,031 posts

265 months

Wednesday 6th December 2017
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And to add some more. The term "self employed" is tied into the assumption that a person is in business on their own account i.e. a "sole trader". HMRC has a number of tests that you can apply to work out whether the arrangement is an "employment" or a "self "employment".

Self Employed individuals would usually show the following characteristics -

issue invoices for the work they do
set their own hours
use their own tools and equipment
regulate how they do their work
are free to look for work from multiple sources (in other words, can find their own customers)
advertise
have a dedicated place of business
can employ their own staff (if they want to)
carry any losses incurred when work has to be corrected
take out insurance to cover the work they do and any injuries or damage they or their work might cause
don't get holiday pay
don't get sick pay
aren't entitled to maternity or paternity leave or pay
look after their own tax and NI affairs

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 9th December 2017
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The job offered sounds like a gig economy lash up, and is not a genuine self employment.

Eric Mc

122,031 posts

265 months

Saturday 9th December 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
The job offered sounds like a gig economy lash up, and is not a genuine self employment.
My interpretation too.

Hammer67

5,732 posts

184 months

Saturday 9th December 2017
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Packrats said:
I recently lost my lost job due to circumstances beyond my control.today I had a interview which went well but the job offered requires me to be self employed..so how does this work.I'll be working in a main Honda dealers valeting and delivering cars. So does this mean I'm contracting to them..I've never been self employed before and .gov is confusing me..
I'd be very careful about driving any vehicles under those conditions.

I'd want to see the companies insurance policy to make sure that you are properly covered as a non-employee, and assuming that you are, there isn't a huge excess that you could be liable for.

Butter Face

30,303 posts

160 months

Saturday 9th December 2017
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I assume it's working for an external valeting agency?

Someone like this - http://www.evsvaleting.com/valeters-guide/english/ - which explains how it works quite well.