Bad reputations!!

[Muzzer79]

chunder27 said:

It's a weird situation, one I have never encountered before.

In the one hand it's taking you from a fixed term role into a perm role, new project, etc etc.

But I don't work well with pushy and forceful people, never have and this is what he is like. Has favourites etc.

Yes I know it's hearsay, but it is EVERYONE, not just the odd few in a decent size workforce, and the section he runs is a morgue, no banter, no fun, just head down slaving.

And that does I am afraid factor into an opinion, rightly or wrongly.

So don't take the job.

I still don't see what value there would be in telling anyone else, least of all anyone in his company, about a secondhand-formed opinion of this manager.

[prand]

Rude-boy said:

Rule Number 1 for any employee - HR are not there for you, they are their to protect the organisation who employs them and the upper management.

Rule Number 2 for any employee - HR are not always right, in fact they are very often wrong and will only push the solution that is the easiest for them and the company, and it is often staffed by people who can best be described as being less than optimal. There are some real pearls in there who are fantastic at their job, but sadly they are the exception rather than the rule.

Agree totally with this. In that role I mentioned above, I worked with a colleague who had confided with the HR Manager for some advice as he was looking to leave. This was then discussed at the next leadership team meeting!

Sure, HR have a secondary role in ensuring a happy and healthy workforce, but in my experience I feel this is really to ensure that the duty of care is preserved and the processes are in place to protect the company being caught out by disputes and tribunals. When there is a real issue, then the HR team will tend to choose the path of least resistance for themselves.

[chunder27]

All good points taken on board, basically, when you work in a place where everyone knows the individual, opinions are formed already, where no-one knows them in place like this, more rational thought is likely.

[soad]

Why not look elsewhere?

[chunder27]

I am also doing that obviously.

[Langweilig]

Never, ever criticise a present or past employer during an interview. You won't get the job because the employer will just think, "He's criticising them. He'll just treat us the same way. He won't happily accept the role or it's duties".

[chunder27]

I am fully aware of that.