Trials of Finding New Job
Discussion
lyonspride said:
Countdown said:
lyonspride said:
Always worth remembering that a lot of hiring managers don't want the best person for the job, they want the best person that won't take theirs.
Succession planning is one if the things that decent Managers should do.It's kinda snow balled, idiots promoting idiots, promoting bigger idiots. If your an idiot, it would make sense not to promote someone who could take your job from under your nose by doing a better job than you.
By the way, looking at your pyramid metaphor, it would suggest the biggest idiots are at the bottom (because 1st level supervisors only wanted to recruit somebody who wasn't capable of taking their job and so on and upwards)
lyonspride said:
I agree completely, unfortunately in the UK it seems to involve promoting people of a lower skill and intelligence level. I mean think about it, British firms are full of idiot managers, they came from somewhere, someone promoted them.
It's kinda snow balled, idiots promoting idiots, promoting bigger idiots. If your an idiot, it would make sense not to promote someone who could take your job from under your nose by doing a better job than you.
When I last worked in a company my manager was in the position just based on length of service. He was completely incompetent and way out of his depth in terms of being able to plan and organise. I used to cover his holidays. It was a very easy job to me the big boss used to come in and query if everything was under control as I wasn't running round the office flapping. It's kinda snow balled, idiots promoting idiots, promoting bigger idiots. If your an idiot, it would make sense not to promote someone who could take your job from under your nose by doing a better job than you.
So rewarding employees with promotion based on length of service is one error. The same company had the prodigal son of the owner taking over as MD he's was so far out of his depth it was untrue. This is another error that companies make. The failure rate of 2nd gen businesses is in the 90s % but very hard to put professional management in rather than your own kid I guess!
fridaypassion said:
lyonspride said:
I agree completely, unfortunately in the UK it seems to involve promoting people of a lower skill and intelligence level. I mean think about it, British firms are full of idiot managers, they came from somewhere, someone promoted them.
It's kinda snow balled, idiots promoting idiots, promoting bigger idiots. If your an idiot, it would make sense not to promote someone who could take your job from under your nose by doing a better job than you.
When I last worked in a company my manager was in the position just based on length of service. He was completely incompetent and way out of his depth in terms of being able to plan and organise. I used to cover his holidays. It was a very easy job to me the big boss used to come in and query if everything was under control as I wasn't running round the office flapping. It's kinda snow balled, idiots promoting idiots, promoting bigger idiots. If your an idiot, it would make sense not to promote someone who could take your job from under your nose by doing a better job than you.
So rewarding employees with promotion based on length of service is one error. The same company had the prodigal son of the owner taking over as MD he's was so far out of his depth it was untrue. This is another error that companies make. The failure rate of 2nd gen businesses is in the 90s % but very hard to put professional management in rather than your own kid I guess!
The "running around flapping", i've come to the conclusion that this often just a facade put on by someone who is out of their depth and doesn't know how to keep themselves busy. In fact every time i've seen this behaviour it's purely done to make themselves look important.
I read an article years ago about "work hacking" and one of the tips was to always look busy, always walk around with a clipboard as if you're doing something important, even if your just going to make a cup of tea or taking a toilet break, as people will subconsciously think you are busy and important.
I saw this ^^ a lot when I did an office based job, one of the young ladies there used to stomp about with a piece of paper, same piece of paper, she'd walk through the downstairs office, stand outside the door, then walk back a few minutes later....... She got "promoted" to the new marketing dept, something you don't actually need when your only customer is the MOD, she then spent her days taking photos of the company mascot teddy bear and posting them on Twitter, as well "other duties as required" no doubt.
Edited by lyonspride on Tuesday 12th November 09:32
lyonspride said:
I believe people should be promoted based largely on competence, i've seen the situations you describe, nepotism is especially bad, it's bad enough when bosses promote young dumb office girls, who proceed to stomp about giving orders like they own the place, but when it's the bosses kids it's a nightmare.
The "running around flapping", i've come to the conclusion that this often just a facade put on by someone who is out of their depth and doesn't know how to keep themselves busy. In fact every time i've seen this behaviour it's purely done to make themselves look important.
I read an article years ago about "work hacking" and one of the tips was to always look busy, always walk around with a clipboard as if you're doing something important, even if your just going to make a cup of tea or taking a toilet break, as people will subconsciously think you are busy and important.
I honestly hate myself for this but you can't go around calling people 'dumb office girls' then misspell 'you're' in the same post, as you just look dumb. The "running around flapping", i've come to the conclusion that this often just a facade put on by someone who is out of their depth and doesn't know how to keep themselves busy. In fact every time i've seen this behaviour it's purely done to make themselves look important.
I read an article years ago about "work hacking" and one of the tips was to always look busy, always walk around with a clipboard as if you're doing something important, even if your just going to make a cup of tea or taking a toilet break, as people will subconsciously think you are busy and important.
p4cks said:
lyonspride said:
I believe people should be promoted based largely on competence, i've seen the situations you describe, nepotism is especially bad, it's bad enough when bosses promote young dumb office girls, who proceed to stomp about giving orders like they own the place, but when it's the bosses kids it's a nightmare.
The "running around flapping", i've come to the conclusion that this often just a facade put on by someone who is out of their depth and doesn't know how to keep themselves busy. In fact every time i've seen this behaviour it's purely done to make themselves look important.
I read an article years ago about "work hacking" and one of the tips was to always look busy, always walk around with a clipboard as if you're doing something important, even if your just going to make a cup of tea or taking a toilet break, as people will subconsciously think you are busy and important.
I honestly hate myself for this but you can't go around calling people 'dumb office girls' then misspell 'you're' in the same post, as you just look dumb. The "running around flapping", i've come to the conclusion that this often just a facade put on by someone who is out of their depth and doesn't know how to keep themselves busy. In fact every time i've seen this behaviour it's purely done to make themselves look important.
I read an article years ago about "work hacking" and one of the tips was to always look busy, always walk around with a clipboard as if you're doing something important, even if your just going to make a cup of tea or taking a toilet break, as people will subconsciously think you are busy and important.
Had a weird interview the other day at a local electrical goods seller.
To begin with, the chap interviewing me was late. He had nipped out to the bank.
We then went into his office and he questioned me about who I am, my experience etc. He then went on to tell me that if I were to work there, I need to get as many customers as possible renting stuff, rather than buying. He told me he never buys anything anymore because modern electrical goods are s
t. He was quit taken aback when I said that I don't rent anything. You basically have to pressure customers into renting and then you need to sell them everything around it that they don't need.
After further chats about lifestyle and home use of electrical goods he asked me about my phone. When I told him how much I spend a month on my phone (it's a SIM only thing on £8.00), he said that's expensive. They do a £6 a month deal there. However, that is locked in on a contract for 24 months and my deal isn't.
I was then informed that the first month of the job will be spent doing a 60 mile round trip every day to a different store, because they don't train in that store. And you will be expected to travel to any other store at very short notice. You also have targets to hit, you have to be in work half an hour early (I do believe unpaid too) to have a staff briefing, and you are expected to spend time out of work doing community activities to promote the brand. Normal hours are Mon - Sat (one day off inbetween) 9 am to 6pm.
All of this for £8.21 per hour plus a bit of commission if you manage to sell people Sky products.
Bizarrely, they offered me a second interview. I said thanks, but no thanks.
No wonder the staff there looked wiped out.
Oh yes, he also couldn't understand how or why I bike to work. To be fair, he was about five times the size of me and sweating and wheezing through the whole interview.
To begin with, the chap interviewing me was late. He had nipped out to the bank.
We then went into his office and he questioned me about who I am, my experience etc. He then went on to tell me that if I were to work there, I need to get as many customers as possible renting stuff, rather than buying. He told me he never buys anything anymore because modern electrical goods are s
t. He was quit taken aback when I said that I don't rent anything. You basically have to pressure customers into renting and then you need to sell them everything around it that they don't need.After further chats about lifestyle and home use of electrical goods he asked me about my phone. When I told him how much I spend a month on my phone (it's a SIM only thing on £8.00), he said that's expensive. They do a £6 a month deal there. However, that is locked in on a contract for 24 months and my deal isn't.
I was then informed that the first month of the job will be spent doing a 60 mile round trip every day to a different store, because they don't train in that store. And you will be expected to travel to any other store at very short notice. You also have targets to hit, you have to be in work half an hour early (I do believe unpaid too) to have a staff briefing, and you are expected to spend time out of work doing community activities to promote the brand. Normal hours are Mon - Sat (one day off inbetween) 9 am to 6pm.
All of this for £8.21 per hour plus a bit of commission if you manage to sell people Sky products.
Bizarrely, they offered me a second interview. I said thanks, but no thanks.
No wonder the staff there looked wiped out.Oh yes, he also couldn't understand how or why I bike to work. To be fair, he was about five times the size of me and sweating and wheezing through the whole interview.
funkyrobot said:
Had a weird interview the other day at a local electrical goods seller.
To begin with, the chap interviewing me was late. He had nipped out to the bank.
We then went into his office and he questioned me about who I am, my experience etc. He then went on to tell me that if I were to work there, I need to get as many customers as possible renting stuff, rather than buying. He told me he never buys anything anymore because modern electrical goods are st. He was quit taken aback when I said that I don't rent anything. You basically have to pressure customers into renting and then you need to sell them everything around it that they don't need.
After further chats about lifestyle and home use of electrical goods he asked me about my phone. When I told him how much I spend a month on my phone (it's a SIM only thing on £8.00), he said that's expensive. They do a £6 a month deal there. However, that is locked in on a contract for 24 months and my deal isn't.
I was then informed that the first month of the job will be spent doing a 60 mile round trip every day to a different store, because they don't train in that store. And you will be expected to travel to any other store at very short notice. You also have targets to hit, you have to be in work half an hour early (I do believe unpaid too) to have a staff briefing, and you are expected to spend time out of work doing community activities to promote the brand. Normal hours are Mon - Sat (one day off inbetween) 9 am to 6pm.
All of this for £8.21 per hour plus a bit of commission if you manage to sell people Sky products.
Bizarrely, they offered me a second interview. I said thanks, but no thanks. No wonder the staff there looked wiped out.
Oh yes, he also couldn't understand how or why I bike to work. To be fair, he was about five times the size of me and sweating and wheezing through the whole interview.
Sounds bad when written down like that, but if you replace "electrical retailer" with "car dealership", then you realise they're only doing exactly the same thing, but with cheaper goods.To begin with, the chap interviewing me was late. He had nipped out to the bank.
We then went into his office and he questioned me about who I am, my experience etc. He then went on to tell me that if I were to work there, I need to get as many customers as possible renting stuff, rather than buying. He told me he never buys anything anymore because modern electrical goods are s
t. He was quit taken aback when I said that I don't rent anything. You basically have to pressure customers into renting and then you need to sell them everything around it that they don't need.After further chats about lifestyle and home use of electrical goods he asked me about my phone. When I told him how much I spend a month on my phone (it's a SIM only thing on £8.00), he said that's expensive. They do a £6 a month deal there. However, that is locked in on a contract for 24 months and my deal isn't.
I was then informed that the first month of the job will be spent doing a 60 mile round trip every day to a different store, because they don't train in that store. And you will be expected to travel to any other store at very short notice. You also have targets to hit, you have to be in work half an hour early (I do believe unpaid too) to have a staff briefing, and you are expected to spend time out of work doing community activities to promote the brand. Normal hours are Mon - Sat (one day off inbetween) 9 am to 6pm.
All of this for £8.21 per hour plus a bit of commission if you manage to sell people Sky products.
Bizarrely, they offered me a second interview. I said thanks, but no thanks.
No wonder the staff there looked wiped out.Oh yes, he also couldn't understand how or why I bike to work. To be fair, he was about five times the size of me and sweating and wheezing through the whole interview.
funkyrobot said:
Had a weird interview the other day at a local electrical goods seller.
To begin with, the chap interviewing me was late. He had nipped out to the bank.
We then went into his office and he questioned me about who I am, my experience etc. He then went on to tell me that if I were to work there, I need to get as many customers as possible renting stuff, rather than buying. He told me he never buys anything anymore because modern electrical goods are st. He was quit taken aback when I said that I don't rent anything. You basically have to pressure customers into renting and then you need to sell them everything around it that they don't need.
After further chats about lifestyle and home use of electrical goods he asked me about my phone. When I told him how much I spend a month on my phone (it's a SIM only thing on £8.00), he said that's expensive. They do a £6 a month deal there. However, that is locked in on a contract for 24 months and my deal isn't.
I was then informed that the first month of the job will be spent doing a 60 mile round trip every day to a different store, because they don't train in that store. And you will be expected to travel to any other store at very short notice. You also have targets to hit, you have to be in work half an hour early (I do believe unpaid too) to have a staff briefing, and you are expected to spend time out of work doing community activities to promote the brand. Normal hours are Mon - Sat (one day off inbetween) 9 am to 6pm.
All of this for £8.21 per hour plus a bit of commission if you manage to sell people Sky products.
Bizarrely, they offered me a second interview. I said thanks, but no thanks. No wonder the staff there looked wiped out.
Oh yes, he also couldn't understand how or why I bike to work. To be fair, he was about five times the size of me and sweating and wheezing through the whole interview.
Sod that. To begin with, the chap interviewing me was late. He had nipped out to the bank.
We then went into his office and he questioned me about who I am, my experience etc. He then went on to tell me that if I were to work there, I need to get as many customers as possible renting stuff, rather than buying. He told me he never buys anything anymore because modern electrical goods are s
t. He was quit taken aback when I said that I don't rent anything. You basically have to pressure customers into renting and then you need to sell them everything around it that they don't need.After further chats about lifestyle and home use of electrical goods he asked me about my phone. When I told him how much I spend a month on my phone (it's a SIM only thing on £8.00), he said that's expensive. They do a £6 a month deal there. However, that is locked in on a contract for 24 months and my deal isn't.
I was then informed that the first month of the job will be spent doing a 60 mile round trip every day to a different store, because they don't train in that store. And you will be expected to travel to any other store at very short notice. You also have targets to hit, you have to be in work half an hour early (I do believe unpaid too) to have a staff briefing, and you are expected to spend time out of work doing community activities to promote the brand. Normal hours are Mon - Sat (one day off inbetween) 9 am to 6pm.
All of this for £8.21 per hour plus a bit of commission if you manage to sell people Sky products.
Bizarrely, they offered me a second interview. I said thanks, but no thanks.
No wonder the staff there looked wiped out.Oh yes, he also couldn't understand how or why I bike to work. To be fair, he was about five times the size of me and sweating and wheezing through the whole interview.
You could get 12.81 delivering post.
lyonspride said:
funkyrobot said:
Had a weird interview the other day at a local electrical goods seller.
To begin with, the chap interviewing me was late. He had nipped out to the bank.
We then went into his office and he questioned me about who I am, my experience etc. He then went on to tell me that if I were to work there, I need to get as many customers as possible renting stuff, rather than buying. He told me he never buys anything anymore because modern electrical goods are st. He was quit taken aback when I said that I don't rent anything. You basically have to pressure customers into renting and then you need to sell them everything around it that they don't need.
After further chats about lifestyle and home use of electrical goods he asked me about my phone. When I told him how much I spend a month on my phone (it's a SIM only thing on £8.00), he said that's expensive. They do a £6 a month deal there. However, that is locked in on a contract for 24 months and my deal isn't.
I was then informed that the first month of the job will be spent doing a 60 mile round trip every day to a different store, because they don't train in that store. And you will be expected to travel to any other store at very short notice. You also have targets to hit, you have to be in work half an hour early (I do believe unpaid too) to have a staff briefing, and you are expected to spend time out of work doing community activities to promote the brand. Normal hours are Mon - Sat (one day off inbetween) 9 am to 6pm.
All of this for £8.21 per hour plus a bit of commission if you manage to sell people Sky products.
Bizarrely, they offered me a second interview. I said thanks, but no thanks. No wonder the staff there looked wiped out.
Oh yes, he also couldn't understand how or why I bike to work. To be fair, he was about five times the size of me and sweating and wheezing through the whole interview.
Sounds bad when written down like that, but if you replace "electrical retailer" with "car dealership", then you realise they're only doing exactly the same thing, but with cheaper goods.To begin with, the chap interviewing me was late. He had nipped out to the bank.
We then went into his office and he questioned me about who I am, my experience etc. He then went on to tell me that if I were to work there, I need to get as many customers as possible renting stuff, rather than buying. He told me he never buys anything anymore because modern electrical goods are s
t. He was quit taken aback when I said that I don't rent anything. You basically have to pressure customers into renting and then you need to sell them everything around it that they don't need.After further chats about lifestyle and home use of electrical goods he asked me about my phone. When I told him how much I spend a month on my phone (it's a SIM only thing on £8.00), he said that's expensive. They do a £6 a month deal there. However, that is locked in on a contract for 24 months and my deal isn't.
I was then informed that the first month of the job will be spent doing a 60 mile round trip every day to a different store, because they don't train in that store. And you will be expected to travel to any other store at very short notice. You also have targets to hit, you have to be in work half an hour early (I do believe unpaid too) to have a staff briefing, and you are expected to spend time out of work doing community activities to promote the brand. Normal hours are Mon - Sat (one day off inbetween) 9 am to 6pm.
All of this for £8.21 per hour plus a bit of commission if you manage to sell people Sky products.
Bizarrely, they offered me a second interview. I said thanks, but no thanks.
No wonder the staff there looked wiped out.Oh yes, he also couldn't understand how or why I bike to work. To be fair, he was about five times the size of me and sweating and wheezing through the whole interview.
Some of you may recall my intention of signing up with a window cleaning franchise a few months ago. Whilst I appreciated the views from many of you that this was not a good idea and that I should set up on my own, I ignored you all and carried on with my intentions. 
However, a few months down the line, I spoke to other people, including former franchisees from this particular franchise and everyone said not to do it and that I should set up on my own.
I have thus decided to bite the bullet and set up by myself. Fortunately I have not yet signed anything with the franchise so I have walked away and am in the process of setting everything up. I have a logo designed, and in the process of having a website created and have set up a FaceBook page (not yet published). I'm waiting for my vehicle to be fitted with a tank, pump and reel. I have the rest of my equipment ready to go. Sign writing on the vehicle is currently under planning.
Once the website is live, then I will crack on and find some customers.
One thing I'm unsure about is leaflets and canvassing. I know everyone says this is the way to get customers but my experiences tells me that nearly everyone throw away leaflets and do not like being disturbed by people knocking at their doors. But then I'm not sure if FB, signage on vehicle and website is enough.
And I only want customers who will sign up to GoCardless - to ensure that I will always get paid on time. I may lose some customers with this position, but may make exceptions to the retired folks.
Thanks all for the earlier suggestions about not signing up with a franchise!
Wish me luck...
However, a few months down the line, I spoke to other people, including former franchisees from this particular franchise and everyone said not to do it and that I should set up on my own.
I have thus decided to bite the bullet and set up by myself. Fortunately I have not yet signed anything with the franchise so I have walked away and am in the process of setting everything up. I have a logo designed, and in the process of having a website created and have set up a FaceBook page (not yet published). I'm waiting for my vehicle to be fitted with a tank, pump and reel. I have the rest of my equipment ready to go. Sign writing on the vehicle is currently under planning.
Once the website is live, then I will crack on and find some customers.
One thing I'm unsure about is leaflets and canvassing. I know everyone says this is the way to get customers but my experiences tells me that nearly everyone throw away leaflets and do not like being disturbed by people knocking at their doors. But then I'm not sure if FB, signage on vehicle and website is enough.
And I only want customers who will sign up to GoCardless - to ensure that I will always get paid on time. I may lose some customers with this position, but may make exceptions to the retired folks.
Thanks all for the earlier suggestions about not signing up with a franchise!
Wish me luck...
MYOB said:
Some of you may recall my intention of signing up with a window cleaning franchise a few months ago. Whilst I appreciated the views from many of you that this was not a good idea and that I should set up on my own, I ignored you all and carried on with my intentions.
However, a few months down the line, I spoke to other people, including former franchisees from this particular franchise and everyone said not to do it and that I should set up on my own.
I have thus decided to bite the bullet and set up by myself. Fortunately I have not yet signed anything with the franchise so I have walked away and am in the process of setting everything up. I have a logo designed, and in the process of having a website created and have set up a FaceBook page (not yet published). I'm waiting for my vehicle to be fitted with a tank, pump and reel. I have the rest of my equipment ready to go. Sign writing on the vehicle is currently under planning.
Once the website is live, then I will crack on and find some customers.
One thing I'm unsure about is leaflets and canvassing. I know everyone says this is the way to get customers but my experiences tells me that nearly everyone throw away leaflets and do not like being disturbed by people knocking at their doors. But then I'm not sure if FB, signage on vehicle and website is enough.
And I only want customers who will sign up to GoCardless - to ensure that I will always get paid on time. I may lose some customers with this position, but may make exceptions to the retired folks.
Thanks all for the earlier suggestions about not signing up with a franchise!
Wish me luck...
You list me at gocardless tbh.However, a few months down the line, I spoke to other people, including former franchisees from this particular franchise and everyone said not to do it and that I should set up on my own.
I have thus decided to bite the bullet and set up by myself. Fortunately I have not yet signed anything with the franchise so I have walked away and am in the process of setting everything up. I have a logo designed, and in the process of having a website created and have set up a FaceBook page (not yet published). I'm waiting for my vehicle to be fitted with a tank, pump and reel. I have the rest of my equipment ready to go. Sign writing on the vehicle is currently under planning.
Once the website is live, then I will crack on and find some customers.
One thing I'm unsure about is leaflets and canvassing. I know everyone says this is the way to get customers but my experiences tells me that nearly everyone throw away leaflets and do not like being disturbed by people knocking at their doors. But then I'm not sure if FB, signage on vehicle and website is enough.
And I only want customers who will sign up to GoCardless - to ensure that I will always get paid on time. I may lose some customers with this position, but may make exceptions to the retired folks.
Thanks all for the earlier suggestions about not signing up with a franchise!
Wish me luck...
At my last place they text me that they were coming and i left cash.
New place they leave a ticket and i transfer to them, they are also happy with cash if I'm in.
I don't want to set up and manage another account just gor a window cleaner.
Good luck though..
I've often thought a window cleaner would be an OK job to top up some money.
Ours charges £11 I think. Only does the windows he can get to (front top and bottom, back just downstairs as can't get to ones above conservatory. Doesn't take long.
I say OK...i don't like heights so sod that!
Ours charges £11 I think. Only does the windows he can get to (front top and bottom, back just downstairs as can't get to ones above conservatory. Doesn't take long.
I say OK...i don't like heights so sod that!
LosingGrip said:
I've often thought a window cleaner would be an OK job to top up some money.
Ours charges £11 I think. Only does the windows he can get to (front top and bottom, back just downstairs as can't get to ones above conservatory. Doesn't take long.
I say OK...i don't like heights so sod that!
That's why I will be using water fed poles, to reach those that ladders can't. I won't be using ladders, too dangerous.Ours charges £11 I think. Only does the windows he can get to (front top and bottom, back just downstairs as can't get to ones above conservatory. Doesn't take long.
I say OK...i don't like heights so sod that!
n3il123 said:
You list me at gocardless tbh.
At my last place they text me that they were coming and i left cash.
New place they leave a ticket and i transfer to them, they are also happy with cash if I'm in.
I don't want to set up and manage another account just gor a window cleaner.
Good luck though..
Gocardless is much more efficient for both parties.At my last place they text me that they were coming and i left cash.
New place they leave a ticket and i transfer to them, they are also happy with cash if I'm in.
I don't want to set up and manage another account just gor a window cleaner.
Good luck though..
Thesprucegoose said:
when a new window cleaner came to my house he checked first if i had one. There is a code I understand, not sure if you are aware of it. I would do door to door, but remember to stick to laws. My target would be new builds.
I don't agree with this. I have no intentions of stealing or undercutting of other window cleaners, but they do not "own" territories.MYOB said:
I don't agree with this. I have no intentions of stealing or undercutting of other window cleaners, but they do not "own" territories.
I think it was an honorable code, I guess if you do it to others they can do it you. i don't know the ins and outs, just what he told me. I'm suprised you've bought all the gear before getting some customers but you must be confident on success. Good luck.
Thesprucegoose said:
I think it was an honorable code, I guess if you do it to others they can do it you. i don't know the ins and outs, just what he told me.
I'm suprised you've bought all the gear before getting some customers but you must be confident on success. Good luck.
The "code" is don't go and undercut other window cleaners to get business. That's not what I intend to do. After all, I have been working with this other chap for some time now and I have no intentions of trying to steal any of his customers, not even those that signed up with me whilst I was working for him. I'm suprised you've bought all the gear before getting some customers but you must be confident on success. Good luck.
As for buying the gear, I cannot get customers if I don't have the gear to do the job!
anonymous said:
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We also binned off a guy using the water fed poles. Came home one day and he was pulling the grit covered hose back and forth between the cars on the drive and scraping it up and down the wing on my 306! Got a chap with ladders and the old fashioned kit now. No more worrying about paintwork and the windows are way cleaner.
There are good and bad cleaners out there. You came across the bad ones. It's not about poles or squegees.
The pole cleaning takes a few washes before you see the real benefits because the pure water is having to remove the grease from windows.
As for trailing hoses over cars, that is a big no no. That was naughty.
The pole cleaning takes a few washes before you see the real benefits because the pure water is having to remove the grease from windows.
As for trailing hoses over cars, that is a big no no. That was naughty.
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