Trials of Finding New Job
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Interesting read - I've not read every post, but it sounds oh so familiar, especially the ghosting! In my experience, the job market has changed so much in the last 15 years, with respect for candidates being low on the agenda.
My role was made redundant 10 month ago after 14 years and I've been looking ever since - lots of good interviews but no offers - perhaps they weren't so good then, but felt good at the time.
Let me share a more recent potential employment experience - company was a massive Telco based out of St. Pauls... 2 telephone interviews then a final F2F interview in London - had to travel at peak times, so a £60 ticket paid for by yours truly. Hour and a half long interview plus short presentation (interview was only meant to be an hour, but it was going so well, we continued). At the end, the recruiting manager invited me down to the restaurant for a coffee and was highly complimentary about my experience, saying I would make a great mentor for other team member etc. All good then - they would let me know in a week.
Nothing.
10 days passed.
Nothing.
Eventually I send a polite email to my HR contact and get a response that they've made an offer to someone else, but he plans to get me detailed feedback. I chased again about 2 weeks later for feedback, but nothing ever came my way. You are of course left with a mixed bag of emotions, but how downright rude that they couldn't spend 10 mins sending me an email with a bit of constructive feedback. It's just not on.
There are plenty of other examples I can give, but it's not healthy to dwell on these thing - just gotta think about the future, whatever that holds...
My role was made redundant 10 month ago after 14 years and I've been looking ever since - lots of good interviews but no offers - perhaps they weren't so good then, but felt good at the time.
Let me share a more recent potential employment experience - company was a massive Telco based out of St. Pauls... 2 telephone interviews then a final F2F interview in London - had to travel at peak times, so a £60 ticket paid for by yours truly. Hour and a half long interview plus short presentation (interview was only meant to be an hour, but it was going so well, we continued). At the end, the recruiting manager invited me down to the restaurant for a coffee and was highly complimentary about my experience, saying I would make a great mentor for other team member etc. All good then - they would let me know in a week.
Nothing.
10 days passed.
Nothing.
Eventually I send a polite email to my HR contact and get a response that they've made an offer to someone else, but he plans to get me detailed feedback. I chased again about 2 weeks later for feedback, but nothing ever came my way. You are of course left with a mixed bag of emotions, but how downright rude that they couldn't spend 10 mins sending me an email with a bit of constructive feedback. It's just not on.
There are plenty of other examples I can give, but it's not healthy to dwell on these thing - just gotta think about the future, whatever that holds...
Spingo said:
had to travel at peak times, so a £60 ticket paid for by yours truly.
Some people may qualify for travel expenses if claiming Job Seekers (was true in 2009). Prob have to be skint and have less than £16k in savings mind.And yeah, it sucks to be treated that way, don't take it personally though - it is the same for every non winning candidate.
I finally got offered a job today.
After numerous inverviews and a hell of a lot of applications, I finally made it.
Getting the job wasn't easy though as I was initially up against 50 odd candidates. I had to do an online test. I then had a first interview which was undertaken with around 15 others. Part of that was a 15 minute test of 50 brain bending questions. I did well on that and I got invited to a second interview last week. Got through that and down to the last few candidates. Had to do a phone interview with a company director and finally got notified today.
All of this for something that doesn't pay amazingly well, but it's more than I'm on at the moment and has opportunities.
Keep at it everyone. As they say, where there is a will there is a way. Let's hope this one is ok because you never truly understand a job until you do it.
After numerous inverviews and a hell of a lot of applications, I finally made it.
Getting the job wasn't easy though as I was initially up against 50 odd candidates. I had to do an online test. I then had a first interview which was undertaken with around 15 others. Part of that was a 15 minute test of 50 brain bending questions. I did well on that and I got invited to a second interview last week. Got through that and down to the last few candidates. Had to do a phone interview with a company director and finally got notified today.
All of this for something that doesn't pay amazingly well, but it's more than I'm on at the moment and has opportunities.
Keep at it everyone. As they say, where there is a will there is a way. Let's hope this one is ok because you never truly understand a job until you do it.
Well back to unemployment, not a had a good past year was laid off in Sept 2019 had a few jobs that didnt work out, then found a job in December, minimum wage, but close to home and not a bad place.
Decided to go back to the company, JCB, that laid me off in Sept, as money is pretty good for role, extra 100-200 a week potential, but after giving my notice, the following week they then say they are not taking anyone else on.
The company I have given my notice to advise not enough work to keep me on, so no job there, so now jobless.
Going to claim as if i get another minimum wage job 300 quid a month extra will help out..
Decided to go back to the company, JCB, that laid me off in Sept, as money is pretty good for role, extra 100-200 a week potential, but after giving my notice, the following week they then say they are not taking anyone else on.
The company I have given my notice to advise not enough work to keep me on, so no job there, so now jobless.
Going to claim as if i get another minimum wage job 300 quid a month extra will help out..
Think I might be going slightly mad, but a post I made last week on the 11th Feb had been edited (shortened) and the date of posting changed to the 27th Jan. How and why can this happen? There was nothing controversial in my post and I ended wishing the OP good luck in his job search. Weird!
Tenzilla said:
for example I couldn't get a job because of the resume I wrote...
I never understood why people cannot write a simple resume. It’s very easy. In addition, you can find a lot of samples on the Internet and use them to write the best resume in the world. People dramatize the significance of the resume!If applying for County Council jobs I'd suggest working out if they have a preferred temp agency they use for jobs. My local County Council only use Pertemps for all temporary appointments, regardless to whether that agency is the best to provide for that type of job.
All councils have a list of payments to external companies, they will point people to this for FOIs, but it mifht be worth doing an FOI to see if they have a perferred Temp Agency or if they use multiple agencies.
If nothing else finding out what agencies a council uses, will save you effort for those with no jobs to actually offer you.
All councils have a list of payments to external companies, they will point people to this for FOIs, but it mifht be worth doing an FOI to see if they have a perferred Temp Agency or if they use multiple agencies.
If nothing else finding out what agencies a council uses, will save you effort for those with no jobs to actually offer you.
After my most recent application I received a rejection saying I didn't meet the minimum requirement, even though I was able to re-write the list of required attributes in my own words and add more to this list. I had the whole spec covered and more on top - crucially, the “more” was stuff that would enhance my ability to do the job and to collaborate with the types of people I’d come into contact with when doing it. Sometimes I wonder if the people screening the applications actually meet minimum requirements!
MitchT said:
After my most recent application I received a rejection saying I didn't meet the minimum requirement, even though I was able to re-write the list of required attributes in my own words and add more to this list. I had the whole spec covered and more on top - crucially, the “more” was stuff that would enhance my ability to do the job and to collaborate with the types of people I’d come into contact with when doing it. Sometimes I wonder if the people screening the applications actually meet minimum requirements!
Happens time and time again. I'm applying for jobs well below my employment history and capabilities and get the same response all the time. I think they just use a random excuse generator.
I’ve had a really up and down last 8 weeks after leaving my last role after it was clear it was time to resign and move on. In the last week it’s finally gone quite well, I’ve now got 3 face to face interviews coming up, 3 and 4 hours long, now converted to video interviews, so that’s gonna be painful, 3+ hours on a camera! Positive that things are moving considering what’s happening though. I think the first 15 jobs I applied to I didn’t even get a response, suddenly my hit rate is much higher in the last two weeks.
V8mate said:
MitchT said:
After my most recent application I received a rejection saying I didn't meet the minimum requirement, even though I was able to re-write the list of required attributes in my own words and add more to this list. I had the whole spec covered and more on top - crucially, the “more” was stuff that would enhance my ability to do the job and to collaborate with the types of people I’d come into contact with when doing it. Sometimes I wonder if the people screening the applications actually meet minimum requirements!
Happens time and time again. I'm applying for jobs well below my employment history and capabilities and get the same response all the time. I think they just use a random excuse generator.First and foremost is fake job ads, if you're CV tells them enough about your contacts and former employer they won't need to call you to extract the information.
Another reason is they only read applications that pass their screening algorithms, so if you don't use the correct key words, you have zero chance, even if your experience dictates that you obviously meet the criteria.
I've seen more and more fake ads as I've been looking at jobs, and I report them each time. They prick my suspicions quite early on; limited information, attractive salary and a link to upload your CV to their sparse website.
Anyway, I'm in the 'process' for two companies at the moment. Made it to final stage for both with the final interview being this afternoon. Should hear back from both next week so that'll be potentially an interesting week with the prospect of offer-offer, offer-reject or heaven forbid reject-reject.
I underestimated massively just how hard it was going to be finding a job. It's been almost a year!
Anyway, I'm in the 'process' for two companies at the moment. Made it to final stage for both with the final interview being this afternoon. Should hear back from both next week so that'll be potentially an interesting week with the prospect of offer-offer, offer-reject or heaven forbid reject-reject.
I underestimated massively just how hard it was going to be finding a job. It's been almost a year!
Bit of an update:
Following last week's final interview for job #1, got a 'trial' day arranged for next week where I'll spend time in the department I'm potentially going to be running to see what I think and what changes I think should be made.
Job #2 have just emailed to say that they are going to be making a decision on Monday following the final interview with another candidate. Got to be honest my stomach dropped when I saw the email in my inbox as I thought I was being pied (as they said they'd let me know by the end of this week) but alas, a lifeline.
Options still could be offer/offer, offer/rejection, rejection/rejection
Following last week's final interview for job #1, got a 'trial' day arranged for next week where I'll spend time in the department I'm potentially going to be running to see what I think and what changes I think should be made.
Job #2 have just emailed to say that they are going to be making a decision on Monday following the final interview with another candidate. Got to be honest my stomach dropped when I saw the email in my inbox as I thought I was being pied (as they said they'd let me know by the end of this week) but alas, a lifeline.
Options still could be offer/offer, offer/rejection, rejection/rejection
p4cks said:
Bit of an update:
Following last week's final interview for job #1, got a 'trial' day arranged for next week where I'll spend time in the department I'm potentially going to be running to see what I think and what changes I think should be made.
Job #2 have just emailed to say that they are going to be making a decision on Monday following the final interview with another candidate. Got to be honest my stomach dropped when I saw the email in my inbox as I thought I was being pied (as they said they'd let me know by the end of this week) but alas, a lifeline.
Options still could be offer/offer, offer/rejection, rejection/rejection
Good luck with it, I hope you land one of them ! Following last week's final interview for job #1, got a 'trial' day arranged for next week where I'll spend time in the department I'm potentially going to be running to see what I think and what changes I think should be made.
Job #2 have just emailed to say that they are going to be making a decision on Monday following the final interview with another candidate. Got to be honest my stomach dropped when I saw the email in my inbox as I thought I was being pied (as they said they'd let me know by the end of this week) but alas, a lifeline.
Options still could be offer/offer, offer/rejection, rejection/rejection
Great to have two options.
p4cks said:
Bit of an update:
Following last week's final interview for job #1, got a 'trial' day arranged for next week where I'll spend time in the department I'm potentially going to be running to see what I think and what changes I think should be made.
Job #2 have just emailed to say that they are going to be making a decision on Monday following the final interview with another candidate. Got to be honest my stomach dropped when I saw the email in my inbox as I thought I was being pied (as they said they'd let me know by the end of this week) but alas, a lifeline.
Options still could be offer/offer, offer/rejection, rejection/rejection
Update:Following last week's final interview for job #1, got a 'trial' day arranged for next week where I'll spend time in the department I'm potentially going to be running to see what I think and what changes I think should be made.
Job #2 have just emailed to say that they are going to be making a decision on Monday following the final interview with another candidate. Got to be honest my stomach dropped when I saw the email in my inbox as I thought I was being pied (as they said they'd let me know by the end of this week) but alas, a lifeline.
Options still could be offer/offer, offer/rejection, rejection/rejection
Job #1 - office now closed so the 'trial day' has been postponed until further notice (understandable really)
Job #2 - despite being sent an email on Friday telling me that they will let me know the outcome that day, I've heard nothing from them. Under the circumstances I can accept the delay, even when I've been on to their website and they proclaim to be 'fully operational' (they're a laboratory testing company utilised to test some stuff for CV19). Will chase them up on Friday however something tells me that it won't be good news for me.
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