Trials of Finding New Job
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Got the bakery job. Ha ha.
My career has been solely in IT, but I'm fed up with it so want out. By sheer chance the lady who interviewed me used to be in IT 15 years ago, got fed up with it and went into catering.
Job is only minor wage and not full time. However, it has potential, my wife is going back to work and the timings mean I can do one school run a day and have time to try and set something up ourselves.
My career has been solely in IT, but I'm fed up with it so want out. By sheer chance the lady who interviewed me used to be in IT 15 years ago, got fed up with it and went into catering.
Job is only minor wage and not full time. However, it has potential, my wife is going back to work and the timings mean I can do one school run a day and have time to try and set something up ourselves.
Flooble said:
Well done!
Probably working for a smaller place will help too.
Thanks. The whole thing was quite refreshing. Ad in the local job page, cover letter and CV sent, chat with the manager today, then I had to say yes or no, bizarrely.Probably working for a smaller place will help too.
No stupid assessments, faceless tests, responses from automated systems. No registering with third party sites and third party info sharing. Just dealt directly with the bakery.
Have a four hour taster day next week to see if it suits me. I'm keen though.
funkyrobot said:
Thanks. The whole thing was quite refreshing. Ad in the local job page, cover letter and CV sent, chat with the manager today, then I had to say yes or no, bizarrely.
No stupid assessments, faceless tests, responses from automated systems. No registering with third party sites and third party info sharing. Just dealt directly with the bakery.
Have a four hour taster day next week to see if it suits me. I'm keen though.
I've just done similar. After years of faffing about in IT and getting properly sick and frustrated, I quit.No stupid assessments, faceless tests, responses from automated systems. No registering with third party sites and third party info sharing. Just dealt directly with the bakery.
Have a four hour taster day next week to see if it suits me. I'm keen though.
Applied to a few kitchens and had a trial shift at a trendy-ish cafe in the centre of Edinburgh just doing kitchen porter stuff. Washing dishes, prepping veg etc. Got the job.
It pays a pittance, but there's a really lively energetic team, its in an open kitchen in full view of the cafe so there's always things happening, and I'm hoping its just the thing I need to get a feeling of living again!
Its scary how much its possible to turn into a horrid person when you're stuck infront of a monitor in a toxic work environment!
Am open to see how it goes, but basically am in it just to build the confidence to apply myself in day-to-day life again!
Edited by Shay HTFC on Thursday 4th October 19:57
Ive seen this job that is up my street. I found the job ad on linkdin which was posted by the company itself, it says the ad was posted 3 days ago. However, when I click on the apply link it directs me to the companies job page. On there it says the ad was posted 30+ days ago.
So does this mean the ad is being re-advertised on linkedin or that the info on linkedin is wrong or the infro on the re-directed page is wrong?
Dont fancy wasting my time if its 30+ days old ad.
So does this mean the ad is being re-advertised on linkedin or that the info on linkedin is wrong or the infro on the re-directed page is wrong?
Dont fancy wasting my time if its 30+ days old ad.
Shay HTFC said:
funkyrobot said:
Thanks. The whole thing was quite refreshing. Ad in the local job page, cover letter and CV sent, chat with the manager today, then I had to say yes or no, bizarrely.
No stupid assessments, faceless tests, responses from automated systems. No registering with third party sites and third party info sharing. Just dealt directly with the bakery.
Have a four hour taster day next week to see if it suits me. I'm keen though.
I've just done similar. After years of faffing about in IT and getting properly sick and frustrated, I quit.No stupid assessments, faceless tests, responses from automated systems. No registering with third party sites and third party info sharing. Just dealt directly with the bakery.
Have a four hour taster day next week to see if it suits me. I'm keen though.
Applied to a few kitchens and had a trial shift at a trendy-ish cafe in the centre of Edinburgh just doing kitchen porter stuff. Washing dishes, prepping veg etc. Got the job.
It pays a pittance, but there's a really lively energetic team, its in an open kitchen in full view of the cafe so there's always things happening, and I'm hoping its just the thing I need to get a feeling of living again!
Its scary how much its possible to turn into a horrid person when you're stuck infront of a monitor in a toxic work environment!
Am open to see how it goes, but basically am in it just to build the confidence to apply myself in day-to-day life again!
Edited by Shay HTFC on Thursday 4th October 19:57
Interestingly, most of the people I have worked with in IT roles werent happy.
We are in Edinburgh in a few weeks time for a short break. You'll have to let me know the cafe and we'll pop in for a snack or something.
Vyse said:
Ive seen this job that is up my street. I found the job ad on linkdin which was posted by the company itself, it says the ad was posted 3 days ago. However, when I click on the apply link it directs me to the companies job page. On there it says the ad was posted 30+ days ago.
So does this mean the ad is being re-advertised on linkedin or that the info on linkedin is wrong or the infro on the re-directed page is wrong?
Dont fancy wasting my time if its 30+ days old ad.
It sounds like they posted the LinkedIn ad 3 days ago. This costs money so it’s unlikely that they’ll do it if the post is already filled. So does this mean the ad is being re-advertised on linkedin or that the info on linkedin is wrong or the infro on the re-directed page is wrong?
Dont fancy wasting my time if its 30+ days old ad.
Maybe they haven’t had many applicants. Sometimes just posting on the company website isn’t enough
another possible subject for a thread of its own but here goes anyway....hopefully it will give you a laugh to start Friday off.
we are all talking here about the hoops we have to jump through applying for jobs and why when the match looks perfect you get ghosted etc....
back in 2013 I was working at one place purely covering maternity leave for 6 months. it was desk jockey admin/phone job and supporting guys out on the road doing the sales executive stuff. one day quite soon after starting the boss strided in and announced that a new guy was about to start as an executive and he rabbitted on about how he was going to bring in lots of new business, he was a big bright young thing, whizzkid, lots of experience in the industry blah blah blah.......to me it was water off a ducks back as I have worked with plenty of so called "high flying execs" who promise the world and deliver very little but plenty of strutting about and powerful bluster
this new guy starts and we all like him. he seems a right laugh but outwardly you can imagine him sat down in front of prospects and clients giving them the schpiel and them lapping it up. he was very affable.
however after a few months we began to see the cracks in this guys fascade. it started off with his office desk phone ringing with increasing regularity. It was in the next room to ours (the office was actually set out across 3 floors of what could only be described as a typical town house so there was only like 2 or 3 people in each room with a desk etc) so we heard it quite a lot but tended to leave it. we answered it occasionally and they always asked for this guy but would never leave any details or a return number........they would ask if Mrs XYZ was there? Nope? why would his wife be there at the office?
then there was the days and weeks where we wouldnt see him. he was meant to be out 2 3 maybe 4 days a week only coming in to sort out paperwork etc but the papers or info we needed just wasnt coming in. clients needed to speak to him and he wasnt getting back to them......
on the occasions we did see him he would be telling everybody how he secured some large cases the biggest I think was about £80k and he was going to collect the cheques in person "as a thank you for their business". we all thought that this was odd. youve supposedly secured the business, you cant take a cheque for a service you havent yet started to provide. WTF was gong on? manning the office was just me and another guy and we were both thinking what is going on here. something didnt feel right.
then one day he came to the office and began telling me and ther guy how ill his baby son was and he was having to take him to hospital somewhere in Hereford & Worcester. we believed his son was actually ill and this was then a continuous theme for a lack of attendance at work by this guy. the boss was at first very understandable and said take as much time off as you need. oh did this guy take time off! then we would get occasional updates that his son had to transfer to great ormund street for assessment then he went to Birmingham Childrens hospital.......the story would just keep growing but nobody would bat an eyelid because it was such a sensitve subject so few questions were asked.
anyway things came to a head when accounts were asking where the clients cheques were that he promised etc etc.....he didnt have them and fobbed them off so accounts and the bosses started to make some casual calls to so called prospects who he had allegedly been to visit over those previous months........they'd never heard of our firm or this guy! he was making everything up. total fraud. complete fabrication of his life. like a walter mitty character. he was putting in heaps of expenses claiming for hotels meals and fuel all the time running a company car but not actually going out to see anybody. we was back at the office busting our gonads trying to keep existing clients sweet whilt this guy was sat at home in his Y fronts bowl of cheerios on his lap watching jeremy kyle!
the police got involved as the bosses snapped and whilst I dont know what action they took he was sacked. when the MD and the accounts manager visited his house to hand over his P45 the guy wouldnt open the door to them. he flipped up the letter box flap and talked through that. this was the big brash flashy loud salesman or so we were all told. what a flake. the reason his phone at the office was always ringing was becuase it was bailiffs and debt collectors chasing him. we even had his wife ring in sometimes asking where her husband was and we had to say that we presumed he was out seeing clients.......I reckon he was even hiding stuff from her.
we think his son was very poorly but that he got better and this guy just strung out the story for more sympathy and paid time off work. genius when you think about it!
so i posted this here because it makes you wonder how did he get that very well paid job and we cant get those jobs? he must have been one hell of an actor.
we are all talking here about the hoops we have to jump through applying for jobs and why when the match looks perfect you get ghosted etc....
back in 2013 I was working at one place purely covering maternity leave for 6 months. it was desk jockey admin/phone job and supporting guys out on the road doing the sales executive stuff. one day quite soon after starting the boss strided in and announced that a new guy was about to start as an executive and he rabbitted on about how he was going to bring in lots of new business, he was a big bright young thing, whizzkid, lots of experience in the industry blah blah blah.......to me it was water off a ducks back as I have worked with plenty of so called "high flying execs" who promise the world and deliver very little but plenty of strutting about and powerful bluster
this new guy starts and we all like him. he seems a right laugh but outwardly you can imagine him sat down in front of prospects and clients giving them the schpiel and them lapping it up. he was very affable.
however after a few months we began to see the cracks in this guys fascade. it started off with his office desk phone ringing with increasing regularity. It was in the next room to ours (the office was actually set out across 3 floors of what could only be described as a typical town house so there was only like 2 or 3 people in each room with a desk etc) so we heard it quite a lot but tended to leave it. we answered it occasionally and they always asked for this guy but would never leave any details or a return number........they would ask if Mrs XYZ was there? Nope? why would his wife be there at the office?
then there was the days and weeks where we wouldnt see him. he was meant to be out 2 3 maybe 4 days a week only coming in to sort out paperwork etc but the papers or info we needed just wasnt coming in. clients needed to speak to him and he wasnt getting back to them......
on the occasions we did see him he would be telling everybody how he secured some large cases the biggest I think was about £80k and he was going to collect the cheques in person "as a thank you for their business". we all thought that this was odd. youve supposedly secured the business, you cant take a cheque for a service you havent yet started to provide. WTF was gong on? manning the office was just me and another guy and we were both thinking what is going on here. something didnt feel right.
then one day he came to the office and began telling me and ther guy how ill his baby son was and he was having to take him to hospital somewhere in Hereford & Worcester. we believed his son was actually ill and this was then a continuous theme for a lack of attendance at work by this guy. the boss was at first very understandable and said take as much time off as you need. oh did this guy take time off! then we would get occasional updates that his son had to transfer to great ormund street for assessment then he went to Birmingham Childrens hospital.......the story would just keep growing but nobody would bat an eyelid because it was such a sensitve subject so few questions were asked.
anyway things came to a head when accounts were asking where the clients cheques were that he promised etc etc.....he didnt have them and fobbed them off so accounts and the bosses started to make some casual calls to so called prospects who he had allegedly been to visit over those previous months........they'd never heard of our firm or this guy! he was making everything up. total fraud. complete fabrication of his life. like a walter mitty character. he was putting in heaps of expenses claiming for hotels meals and fuel all the time running a company car but not actually going out to see anybody. we was back at the office busting our gonads trying to keep existing clients sweet whilt this guy was sat at home in his Y fronts bowl of cheerios on his lap watching jeremy kyle!
the police got involved as the bosses snapped and whilst I dont know what action they took he was sacked. when the MD and the accounts manager visited his house to hand over his P45 the guy wouldnt open the door to them. he flipped up the letter box flap and talked through that. this was the big brash flashy loud salesman or so we were all told. what a flake. the reason his phone at the office was always ringing was becuase it was bailiffs and debt collectors chasing him. we even had his wife ring in sometimes asking where her husband was and we had to say that we presumed he was out seeing clients.......I reckon he was even hiding stuff from her.
we think his son was very poorly but that he got better and this guy just strung out the story for more sympathy and paid time off work. genius when you think about it!
so i posted this here because it makes you wonder how did he get that very well paid job and we cant get those jobs? he must have been one hell of an actor.
Edited by ToothbrushMan on Friday 5th October 08:36
Edited by ToothbrushMan on Friday 5th October 08:43
My old place of work hired a sales manager type person about 3 months ago. Thank goodness I didn't have to work with her for long.
Full of herself, kept telling us all she was previously a high flying area manager managing big teams and budgets of millions. Had a sales track record that made people envy her etc. So full of bull poop.
In the three months I worked in the same office as her, she didn't make a single sale.
She became really annoying and designated herself as the stand in manager when the main manager was out, or behind a closed door. Got on my nerves as she told me and my colleague off for talking, yet would be nattering herself ten minutes later.
I've never met someone so full of self importance. Everything she did was the best.
Apparently, the only reason she took the job at my last company (small website building place with about 10 staff) was because she had a son now and couldnt devote herself to her high flying career. Becoming a mum actually annoyed her.
Full of herself, kept telling us all she was previously a high flying area manager managing big teams and budgets of millions. Had a sales track record that made people envy her etc. So full of bull poop.
In the three months I worked in the same office as her, she didn't make a single sale.
She became really annoying and designated herself as the stand in manager when the main manager was out, or behind a closed door. Got on my nerves as she told me and my colleague off for talking, yet would be nattering herself ten minutes later.
I've never met someone so full of self importance. Everything she did was the best.
Apparently, the only reason she took the job at my last company (small website building place with about 10 staff) was because she had a son now and couldnt devote herself to her high flying career. Becoming a mum actually annoyed her.
ToothbrushMan said:
another possible subject for a thread of its own but here goes anyway....hopefully it will give you a laugh to start Friday off.
we are all talking here about the hoops we have to jump through applying for jobs and why when the match looks perfect you get ghosted etc....
back in 2013 I was working at one place purely covering maternity leave for 6 months. it was desk jockey admin/phone job and supporting guys out on the road doing the sales executive stuff. one day quite soon after starting the boss strided in and announced that a new guy was about to start as an executive and he rabbitted on about how he was going to bring in lots of new business, he was a big bright young thing, whizzkid, lots of experience in the industry blah blah blah.......to me it was water off a ducks back as I have worked with plenty of so called "high flying execs" who promise the world and deliver very little but plenty of strutting about and powerful bluster
this new guy starts and we all like him. he seems a right laugh but outwardly you can imagine him sat down in front of prospects and clients giving them the schpiel and them lapping it up. he was very affable.
however after a few months we began to see the cracks in this guys fascade. it started off with his office desk phone ringing with increasing regularity. It was in the next room to ours (the office was actually set out across 3 floors of what could only be described as a typical town house so there was only like 2 or 3 people in each room with a desk etc) so we heard it quite a lot but tended to leave it. we answered it occasionally and they always asked for this guy but would never leave any details or a return number........they would ask if Mrs XYZ was there? Nope? why would his wife be there at the office?
then there was the days and weeks where we wouldnt see him. he was meant to be out 2 3 maybe 4 days a week only coming in to sort out paperwork etc but the papers or info we needed just wasnt coming in. clients needed to speak to him and he wasnt getting back to them......
on the occasions we did see him he would be telling everybody how he secured some large cases the biggest I think was about £80k and he was going to collect the cheques in person "as a thank you for their business". we all thought that this was odd. youve supposedly secured the business, you cant take a cheque for a service you havent yet started to provide. WTF was gong on? manning the office was just me and another guy and we were both thinking what is going on here. something didnt feel right.
then one day he came to the office and began telling me and ther guy how ill his baby son was and he was having to take him to hospital somewhere in Hereford & Worcester. we believed his son was actually ill and this was then a continuous theme for a lack of attendance at work by this guy. the boss was at first very understandable and said take as much time off as you need. oh did this guy take time off! then we would get occasional updates that his son had to transfer to great ormund street for assessment then he went to Birmingham Childrens hospital.......the story would just keep growing but nobody would bat an eyelid because it was such a sensitve subject so few questions were asked.
anyway things came to a head when accounts were asking where the clients cheques were that he promised etc etc.....he didnt have them and fobbed them off so accounts and the bosses started to make some casual calls to so called prospects who he had allegedly been to visit over those previous months........they'd never heard of our firm or this guy! he was making everything up. total fraud. complete fabrication of his life. like a walter mitty character. he was putting in heaps of expenses claiming for hotels meals and fuel all the time running a company car but not actually going out to see anybody. we was back at the office busting our gonads trying to keep existing clients sweet whilt this guy was sat at home in his Y fronts bowl of cheerios on his lap watching jeremy kyle!
the police got involved as the bosses snapped and whilst I dont know what action they took he was sacked. when the MD and the accounts manager visited his house to hand over his P45 the guy wouldnt open the door to them. he flipped up the letter box flap and talked through that. this was the big brash flashy loud salesman or so we were all told. what a flake. the reason his phone at the office was always ringing was becuase it was bailiffs and debt collectors chasing him. we even had his wife ring in sometimes asking where her husband was and we had to say that we presumed he was out seeing clients.......I reckon he was even hiding stuff from her.
we think his son was very poorly but that he got better and this guy just strung out the story for more sympathy and paid time off work. genius when you think about it!
so i posted this here because it makes you wonder how did he get that very well paid job and we cant get those jobs? he must have been one hell of an actor.
Hilarious. Where were management? Surely they gotta take accountability. Didn't he have tangible targets? Weren't they concerned, and say offered to join him in his meetings?we are all talking here about the hoops we have to jump through applying for jobs and why when the match looks perfect you get ghosted etc....
back in 2013 I was working at one place purely covering maternity leave for 6 months. it was desk jockey admin/phone job and supporting guys out on the road doing the sales executive stuff. one day quite soon after starting the boss strided in and announced that a new guy was about to start as an executive and he rabbitted on about how he was going to bring in lots of new business, he was a big bright young thing, whizzkid, lots of experience in the industry blah blah blah.......to me it was water off a ducks back as I have worked with plenty of so called "high flying execs" who promise the world and deliver very little but plenty of strutting about and powerful bluster
this new guy starts and we all like him. he seems a right laugh but outwardly you can imagine him sat down in front of prospects and clients giving them the schpiel and them lapping it up. he was very affable.
however after a few months we began to see the cracks in this guys fascade. it started off with his office desk phone ringing with increasing regularity. It was in the next room to ours (the office was actually set out across 3 floors of what could only be described as a typical town house so there was only like 2 or 3 people in each room with a desk etc) so we heard it quite a lot but tended to leave it. we answered it occasionally and they always asked for this guy but would never leave any details or a return number........they would ask if Mrs XYZ was there? Nope? why would his wife be there at the office?
then there was the days and weeks where we wouldnt see him. he was meant to be out 2 3 maybe 4 days a week only coming in to sort out paperwork etc but the papers or info we needed just wasnt coming in. clients needed to speak to him and he wasnt getting back to them......
on the occasions we did see him he would be telling everybody how he secured some large cases the biggest I think was about £80k and he was going to collect the cheques in person "as a thank you for their business". we all thought that this was odd. youve supposedly secured the business, you cant take a cheque for a service you havent yet started to provide. WTF was gong on? manning the office was just me and another guy and we were both thinking what is going on here. something didnt feel right.
then one day he came to the office and began telling me and ther guy how ill his baby son was and he was having to take him to hospital somewhere in Hereford & Worcester. we believed his son was actually ill and this was then a continuous theme for a lack of attendance at work by this guy. the boss was at first very understandable and said take as much time off as you need. oh did this guy take time off! then we would get occasional updates that his son had to transfer to great ormund street for assessment then he went to Birmingham Childrens hospital.......the story would just keep growing but nobody would bat an eyelid because it was such a sensitve subject so few questions were asked.
anyway things came to a head when accounts were asking where the clients cheques were that he promised etc etc.....he didnt have them and fobbed them off so accounts and the bosses started to make some casual calls to so called prospects who he had allegedly been to visit over those previous months........they'd never heard of our firm or this guy! he was making everything up. total fraud. complete fabrication of his life. like a walter mitty character. he was putting in heaps of expenses claiming for hotels meals and fuel all the time running a company car but not actually going out to see anybody. we was back at the office busting our gonads trying to keep existing clients sweet whilt this guy was sat at home in his Y fronts bowl of cheerios on his lap watching jeremy kyle!
the police got involved as the bosses snapped and whilst I dont know what action they took he was sacked. when the MD and the accounts manager visited his house to hand over his P45 the guy wouldnt open the door to them. he flipped up the letter box flap and talked through that. this was the big brash flashy loud salesman or so we were all told. what a flake. the reason his phone at the office was always ringing was becuase it was bailiffs and debt collectors chasing him. we even had his wife ring in sometimes asking where her husband was and we had to say that we presumed he was out seeing clients.......I reckon he was even hiding stuff from her.
we think his son was very poorly but that he got better and this guy just strung out the story for more sympathy and paid time off work. genius when you think about it!
so i posted this here because it makes you wonder how did he get that very well paid job and we cant get those jobs? he must have been one hell of an actor.
Edited by ToothbrushMan on Friday 5th October 08:36
Edited by ToothbrushMan on Friday 5th October 08:43
yeah i think he ran a few meetings earlier doors with one or two of the management. probably thought the sun shon out of his bum hole. but then oce he was settled the fraud started.......
he also had so many "car problems" too on days when we expected him in the office and he had to get towed or visit the dealers for whatever-utter BS. he drove a new VW golf.
heaven help the firms he went to afterwards if he managed to get in. you could actually do it, do very little work, flake your way along for 6 months then move jobs before the s
te hit the fan if you was so inclined.........
he also had so many "car problems" too on days when we expected him in the office and he had to get towed or visit the dealers for whatever-utter BS. he drove a new VW golf.
heaven help the firms he went to afterwards if he managed to get in. you could actually do it, do very little work, flake your way along for 6 months then move jobs before the s
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