Trials of Finding New Job
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After working for Royal Mail in the run up to Christmas I applied for a fixed term contract at a permanent location.
Despite having all my details from the previous application I had to submit a number again and agree for DBS checks (which were completed 2 months earlier).
Couple of days I ago I received an email stating "Unfortunately on this particular occasion your application has not been successful". No way to speak to someone to find out why or what.
Disappointed no consideration given to my previous (but limited) experience but onwards and upwards.
Despite having all my details from the previous application I had to submit a number again and agree for DBS checks (which were completed 2 months earlier).
Couple of days I ago I received an email stating "Unfortunately on this particular occasion your application has not been successful". No way to speak to someone to find out why or what.
Disappointed no consideration given to my previous (but limited) experience but onwards and upwards.
Sorry to hear that people are still having a rubbish time trying to find a job.
I've started applying in anger again. I have an interview on Monday at a bingo hall. Worth a punt.
I have a rush for my next JSA interview. My wife has some work coming up and I have to be at my appointment on a weekday just after 9. I have to take my daughter to school first and then have to get from my village to the job centre in the local town in about 20 minutes. I called last week to try and get my appointment moved back about half an hour and they told me they couldn't do it.
I'm seriously thinking about getting into teaching. I have a 4 year old so have been introduced to the schooling system. I would love to work with and help kids. Just looking into it and seeing what I need to do. I have a degree in Information Systems, so that may help.
I've started applying in anger again. I have an interview on Monday at a bingo hall. Worth a punt.
I have a rush for my next JSA interview. My wife has some work coming up and I have to be at my appointment on a weekday just after 9. I have to take my daughter to school first and then have to get from my village to the job centre in the local town in about 20 minutes. I called last week to try and get my appointment moved back about half an hour and they told me they couldn't do it.
I'm seriously thinking about getting into teaching. I have a 4 year old so have been introduced to the schooling system. I would love to work with and help kids. Just looking into it and seeing what I need to do. I have a degree in Information Systems, so that may help.
ToothbrushMan said:
theyve come back today.
short email thanking me for attending the interview on the 14th dec but they are now reviewing their "recruitment needs" and will be in touch again shortly whatever the hell that means. they were screaming out for people before xmas now the demands are different (and its not seasonal work) . oh to be a fly on the wall in their HR dept.
Id love to tell them to get lost in all honesty as the salary is paltry at £17k but I have nothing else in the pipeline atm and a mortgage to pay.
its painful being out of work and even more painful being put through a series of emotional ups and downs. you feel like they are dangling you on a piece of string at times.
in other news..........the jobcentre have agreed to send me on a CPC periodic course for commercial driving so I get my CPC under the grandfather rights as I have held my licence prior to 1997 and can at least apply for driving jobs that insist on a CPC card. thats due to start on the 15th jan. and is 35 hours.
I've been messed about in the past, you attend an interview, you think it's gone really well and then you get these excuses.short email thanking me for attending the interview on the 14th dec but they are now reviewing their "recruitment needs" and will be in touch again shortly whatever the hell that means. they were screaming out for people before xmas now the demands are different (and its not seasonal work) . oh to be a fly on the wall in their HR dept.
Id love to tell them to get lost in all honesty as the salary is paltry at £17k but I have nothing else in the pipeline atm and a mortgage to pay.
its painful being out of work and even more painful being put through a series of emotional ups and downs. you feel like they are dangling you on a piece of string at times.
in other news..........the jobcentre have agreed to send me on a CPC periodic course for commercial driving so I get my CPC under the grandfather rights as I have held my licence prior to 1997 and can at least apply for driving jobs that insist on a CPC card. thats due to start on the 15th jan. and is 35 hours.
It's just dishonest, it may be the HR people found something they didn't like, and bare in mind that HR these days are often young twenty something females, with all the ridiculous stereotypes that young women today have, they check candidates as if they were on a first date. You could simply have had a scuff mark on your shoes and get turned down for being too lazy. I have long hair, so you can imagine the BS stereotypes that get applied to me.
You also get the interviews where they have no intention of hiring anyone, and they spend 2 hours fishing for information about how your previous company did things, etc.
If you've ever been on a dating site, I feel like searching for a job is similar in many ways.... An emotional rollercoaster. You have to do your best to fit a stereotype that just isn't you, because being a lying a
hole is the only way to gain anyone's trust.
yeah ive come so close a few occasions and that grates.......
no option but to keep trying. hopefully the jobcentre keep me on 2 week signings which is something as years ago they wanted me to go up there and sign on every single day of the week at different times of the day ! so it could be worse I guess.
Thing is I am only doing it for my NI stamp because currently I am getting no money despite signing on. the DWP are still "looking" at my claim for JSA since 2nd November. Bunch of ar*eholes in that place.
Why they cannot appoint a decision maker in every jobcentre is beyond me - it would make the system much quicker and far more efficient for all concerned but they seem to prefer the long winded bureaucratic approach (perhaps intentionally to slow you down or make you sign off if they grind you down for long enough).
I applied for the buses and dont mind shift work however my local firm work split shifts and because the depot is 30 mins away on a good day I could leave home at 4am work 4 hours for the peak then they expect you to go home for 3 or 4 hours then drive back to the depot and put in another 4 or 5 hours! told them straight that that just messes with my home life and work balance - no thank you. Ive no regrets on that score. I want to get up go to work do my day then at the end of it go home and switch off not have 3 or 4 hours at home watching the clock before heading back to whence I was earlier that day.....you cant start anything or do anything in that small time window.
no option but to keep trying. hopefully the jobcentre keep me on 2 week signings which is something as years ago they wanted me to go up there and sign on every single day of the week at different times of the day ! so it could be worse I guess.
Thing is I am only doing it for my NI stamp because currently I am getting no money despite signing on. the DWP are still "looking" at my claim for JSA since 2nd November. Bunch of ar*eholes in that place.
Why they cannot appoint a decision maker in every jobcentre is beyond me - it would make the system much quicker and far more efficient for all concerned but they seem to prefer the long winded bureaucratic approach (perhaps intentionally to slow you down or make you sign off if they grind you down for long enough).
I applied for the buses and dont mind shift work however my local firm work split shifts and because the depot is 30 mins away on a good day I could leave home at 4am work 4 hours for the peak then they expect you to go home for 3 or 4 hours then drive back to the depot and put in another 4 or 5 hours! told them straight that that just messes with my home life and work balance - no thank you. Ive no regrets on that score. I want to get up go to work do my day then at the end of it go home and switch off not have 3 or 4 hours at home watching the clock before heading back to whence I was earlier that day.....you cant start anything or do anything in that small time window.
funkyrobot said:
Sorry to hear that people are still having a rubbish time trying to find a job.
I've started applying in anger again. I have an interview on Monday at a bingo hall. Worth a punt.
Enough time to learn these? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_bi...I've started applying in anger again. I have an interview on Monday at a bingo hall. Worth a punt.
pinged an email off to an agency this morning that I was dealing with last February and had a sprinkling of chats with over 2018 and simply asking for the guy to ring me when he gets a few minutes for a catch up.
what do i get in response?
"can you ring me this afternoon"
funny......I thought I was his client. sick of this.................
what do i get in response?
"can you ring me this afternoon"
funny......I thought I was his client. sick of this.................
ToothbrushMan said:
pinged an email off to an agency this morning that I was dealing with last February and had a sprinkling of chats with over 2018 and simply asking for the guy to ring me when he gets a few minutes for a catch up.
what do i get in response?
"can you ring me this afternoon"
funny......I thought I was his client. sick of this.................
No, your the thing he sells to his clients. Sad truth what do i get in response?
"can you ring me this afternoon"
funny......I thought I was his client. sick of this.................
finally heard back after the 2nd interview - they have a more suitable candidate.
am I getting paranoid but is it my age (49?) i seem to be inteerviewed by girls who I am old enough to father and beginning to think is this a millenials things where they only think youre a good fit if you are evidently a young bright thing?
the only possible saving grace to this job (even though it was merely a mortgage coverer in the short term) was that it was office based shift work including weekends anything from 8am until 8pm and the salary to compensate for that shift regime was a truly awful £17k a year. Yes folks you read that right £17k. Pretty low hey?
I had 2 smashing interviews and in my gut was thinking its in the bag as they were looking for a few people. But I was wrong.
Onwards. I am on the verge of saying "I give up" and start my own business of some sorts.
am I getting paranoid but is it my age (49?) i seem to be inteerviewed by girls who I am old enough to father and beginning to think is this a millenials things where they only think youre a good fit if you are evidently a young bright thing?
the only possible saving grace to this job (even though it was merely a mortgage coverer in the short term) was that it was office based shift work including weekends anything from 8am until 8pm and the salary to compensate for that shift regime was a truly awful £17k a year. Yes folks you read that right £17k. Pretty low hey?
I had 2 smashing interviews and in my gut was thinking its in the bag as they were looking for a few people. But I was wrong.
Onwards. I am on the verge of saying "I give up" and start my own business of some sorts.
ToothbrushMan said:
am I getting paranoid but is it my age (49?) i seem to be inteerviewed by girls who I am old enough to father and beginning to think is this a millenials things where they only think youre a good fit if you are evidently a young bright thing?
IMO the only real undesirable thing that comes with age. is that we're past that point where we don't know our rights and we're not likely to take any sh*t.our also more of a threat to the hiring managers position.
lyonspride said:
ToothbrushMan said:
am I getting paranoid but is it my age (49?) i seem to be inteerviewed by girls who I am old enough to father and beginning to think is this a millenials things where they only think youre a good fit if you are evidently a young bright thing?
IMO the only real undesirable thing that comes with age. is that we're past that point where we don't know our rights and we're not likely to take any sh*t.our also more of a threat to the hiring managers position.
Middle aged men with massive chips on there shoulder re having to do jobs they feel are beneath them ?
For the record i know full well i'd not be on £11 a hour anywhere else than in my current job , so if i got laid off i'd be one of those middle aged men with a chip on there shoulders
MYOB said:
Been a year of job hunting for me to no avail. Been out of work for 3 years though as I became a stay at home dad, after a career of 20 years. The longer it goes on, the more difficult it's going to be.
This is not why I went to uni to get a business studies degree!
yep its a painful slog isnt it?This is not why I went to uni to get a business studies degree!
I cant remember your exact details fella, but it seems that you are firing well under the radar for a lot of these jobs. I seem to recall you were quite well paid etc, so if those sort of job specs are on your CV they might wonder why you are applying. You are getting interviews and the like but never the job, all the excuses. So you are doing something right.
Agencies and companies never think you are telling the truth sometimes, even if you just want something more simple, basic, they won't believe you, would prefer to take on a candidate with no skills who doesn't know any better.
If you have experience in one area, surely it might be better to concentrate on that area initially?
Agencies and companies never think you are telling the truth sometimes, even if you just want something more simple, basic, they won't believe you, would prefer to take on a candidate with no skills who doesn't know any better.
If you have experience in one area, surely it might be better to concentrate on that area initially?
i'm trying to cover every base TBH. keep an eye on my speciality area but whilst thats bubbling away plough through loads of much lower paid jobs in the hope that they could act as a buffer.........theres not enough jobs out there to only say I will concentrate on my specialist area. its too narrow a wndow and I suspect thats the case for most people. its the numbers that is the hurdle. not enough of those roles.....
Coming back to whether I might be getting some headway right up until the face to face interviews then getting radio silence. the f2f is when the interviewer then sees I am not exactly a bright young 25 year old. Is it worth maybe having the grey hairs I have coming through dyed?
Sounds ridiculous but I am seriously considering it ahead of any more interviews as I am sure its tripping me up even though the companies could never admit to it. I am due a hair cut in the next week or so and am thinking of asking my barber for advice. Its not a confidence thing this by the way. I have never before been bothered by the greys coming through - I am only interested in doing as much as possible to make my age a non-event at future interviews. Its tricky when you are asked to take along ID and birth certs though which I hate doing as thats pretty much game over in my eyes.....
I am 49 btw.
Royal Mail are looking for part timers 30 hours a week near me so will apply today.
Coming back to whether I might be getting some headway right up until the face to face interviews then getting radio silence. the f2f is when the interviewer then sees I am not exactly a bright young 25 year old. Is it worth maybe having the grey hairs I have coming through dyed?
Sounds ridiculous but I am seriously considering it ahead of any more interviews as I am sure its tripping me up even though the companies could never admit to it. I am due a hair cut in the next week or so and am thinking of asking my barber for advice. Its not a confidence thing this by the way. I have never before been bothered by the greys coming through - I am only interested in doing as much as possible to make my age a non-event at future interviews. Its tricky when you are asked to take along ID and birth certs though which I hate doing as thats pretty much game over in my eyes.....
I am 49 btw.
Royal Mail are looking for part timers 30 hours a week near me so will apply today.
ToothbrushMan said:
i'm trying to cover every base TBH. keep an eye on my speciality area but whilst thats bubbling away plough through loads of much lower paid jobs in the hope that they could act as a buffer.........theres not enough jobs out there to only say I will concentrate on my specialist area. its too narrow a wndow and I suspect thats the case for most people. its the numbers that is the hurdle. not enough of those roles.....
Coming back to whether I might be getting some headway right up until the face to face interviews then getting radio silence. the f2f is when the interviewer then sees I am not exactly a bright young 25 year old. Is it worth maybe having the grey hairs I have coming through dyed?
Sounds ridiculous but I am seriously considering it ahead of any more interviews as I am sure its tripping me up even though the companies could never admit to it. I am due a hair cut in the next week or so and am thinking of asking my barber for advice. Its not a confidence thing this by the way. I have never before been bothered by the greys coming through - I am only interested in doing as much as possible to make my age a non-event at future interviews. Its tricky when you are asked to take along ID and birth certs though which I hate doing as thats pretty much game over in my eyes.....
I am 49 btw.
Royal Mail are looking for part timers 30 hours a week near me so will apply today.
Bear in mind full time is going down to 37 hours in oct so there's not much difference .Coming back to whether I might be getting some headway right up until the face to face interviews then getting radio silence. the f2f is when the interviewer then sees I am not exactly a bright young 25 year old. Is it worth maybe having the grey hairs I have coming through dyed?
Sounds ridiculous but I am seriously considering it ahead of any more interviews as I am sure its tripping me up even though the companies could never admit to it. I am due a hair cut in the next week or so and am thinking of asking my barber for advice. Its not a confidence thing this by the way. I have never before been bothered by the greys coming through - I am only interested in doing as much as possible to make my age a non-event at future interviews. Its tricky when you are asked to take along ID and birth certs though which I hate doing as thats pretty much game over in my eyes.....
I am 49 btw.
Royal Mail are looking for part timers 30 hours a week near me so will apply today.
Do you know if the jobs are 3 day weeks or 5 days but less hours per day ?
I know people who have gone for the 3 day weeks then used the days off to study or to search for there proper jobs however i know a lot more people who ended up staying .
Just done the royal mail online ability assessment........wow. my eyes hurt.
no idea how I how I scored but think I got most right but the test is very fast and you are timed with a countdown clock top right hand corner of the screen and believe me you have a very tight timescale on each of the 8 questions.
it was all about looking at two very similar columns of numbers and saying whether they were identical or not with a simple yes or no but its the time factor that has you sweating.......
all this to drive a van for them delivering parcels!
no idea how I how I scored but think I got most right but the test is very fast and you are timed with a countdown clock top right hand corner of the screen and believe me you have a very tight timescale on each of the 8 questions.
it was all about looking at two very similar columns of numbers and saying whether they were identical or not with a simple yes or no but its the time factor that has you sweating.......
all this to drive a van for them delivering parcels!
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